BrandonTT
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So in the next year when Canon releases a new high MP full frame body and ultra wide lens, are you selling off your Nikon gear and buying Canon? At that point, Canon would have more MPs and better glass...temporarily at least. 
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Follow- up to saying goodbye to 5d mk III and switch to Nikon
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I find the opposite. You're already toting a tripod and a 1 ounce remote is just inconsequential. I'm also used to a wired remote (use it often) so find it very intuitive. Study the scene and hit the button. Lets me move around the camera with more flexibility/freedom
Not really, with respect, a way over exaggeration. Pretty easy to learn not to yank the rel=mote during the shot. If one really wants to limit vibration on a tripod, remote is the way to go. Act of pressing the shutter releases on the camera is far more likely to set up vibration in the tripod during the shot, unless the tripod is a rock steady 100LB model
In that case...using the self timer function does the exact same thing (set for 2sec) on the Nikon. You get the exact same result. You press the button on the camera...2 sec delay, after one press, and then entire bracket fires. Turn the "exposure delay" feature on and even less likely to have vibration...lay a light towel over the lens too if really concerned.
And so has the Nikon's. There really isn't a thing one can't do with ether and get the exact same practical result...as you describe the landscape setup you use.Canon has all of the features that a landscaper would want except the resolution.
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steelhead3
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I have a question on this remote debate...all my Sony cameras allow for wired or wireless remote release, is it not the same with Canon and Nikon?
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Pretty much. Can't think, off the top of my head, of a last 5 year model that doesn't have remote capability.
However. I found it's easier or more convenient that I can fire A7R thru a $10 third party IR release or thru NFC (Sony smart remote control application on Android or iPhone) under any modes, Av, Tv, M without requiring to move to wireless remote control mode as on 5D3 and then need to remember to move back. But it's a double-edge sword that if someone taking photos with you side by side or shoulder by shoulder (as need to be very close) and use similar cameras (such as also A7/R), then we can fire each other's camera accidentally
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Just so you understand the debate, the original issue is not about remotes but about how many times one needs to press a release button, on the camera or on the remote, to fire a set of brackets. With Canon in LV, a single press will fire the entire set. Mako has introduced the Straw Man
that with a Nikon remote, you can press and hold the release button and fire the bracket and that should be good enough to obtain the same result. But, that's tantamount to pressing the release 5, 7 or 9 times depending on the bracket but it may "feel" like one motion to Mako. To Mako, I would suggest do this in LV because at least the mirror is up and appears to stay up during the firings. I know you said you don't use LV, but this may be a good reason to do so. Of course, if the shutter speed is high enough, who cares about the mirror anyway.
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Yes with Canon in LV you do can press shutter once to fire a set of brackets, not sure if A7R can do as I even do bother to check. But I will not do this way on tripod as vibration doesn't have enough time damping down in a series of shots and will affect sharpness, rather I will fire one by one manually. I did bunch of HDR and pano photos with A7R in this way in my March EU trip but have not developed. One reason is that I have not upgraded my old version of PTGui Pro (for Pano) that I was used to but now consider to use Photoshop CC instead.Just so you understand the debate, the original issue is not about remotes but about how many times one needs to press a release button, on the camera or on the remote, to fire a set of brackets. With Canon in LV, a single press will fire the entire set. Mako has introduced the Straw Man
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Not true...you can also do it with a single press and release of the camera shutter release button (the entire bracket will run with no need to hold the button) using the self timer function.Just so you understand the debate, the original issue is not about remotes but about how many times one needs to press a release button, on the camera or on the remote, to fire a set of brackets. With Canon in LV, a single press will fire the entire set. Mako has introduced the Straw Man
Like you said: "Having a 2-5 second delay to let the camera/tripod settle after pressing the release button". I just showed you how to do the exact same thing, on a Nikon body, without a remote
No need unless you're in the mirror slap zone. If that's the case...you can also just turn exposure delay on and not go into LV.
Or Low enough...Lots of ways to skin the cat. Just not seeing this issue as a real Canon advantage.
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You can also do that with a Nikon body as well.Yes with Canon in LV you do can press shutter once to fire a set of brackets, not sure if A7R can do as I even do bother to check.Just so you understand the debate, the original issue is not about remotes but about how many times one needs to press a release button, on the camera or on the remote, to fire a set of brackets. With Canon in LV, a single press will fire the entire set. Mako has introduced the Straw Man
Just shoot with a delay. Works the same on Canon or Nikon
I am sure about but not sure for A7R as I have not even checked. But as I said EC is so easy on A7R so not a big deal to shoot one by one manually and I usually only do 5 shots. I am not good in HDR in the past (not happy end result) but I will try that LR5 plug-in (the best from what I read and cheap) once I have time. I have many HDR shots from my last trip with A7R and 5D3 to be processed, also many Pano photos that I will use Photoshop CC instead.You can also do that with a Nikon body as well.Yes with Canon in LV you do can press shutter once to fire a set of brackets, not sure if A7R can do as I even do bother to check.Just so you understand the debate, the original issue is not about remotes but about how many times one needs to press a release button, on the camera or on the remote, to fire a set of brackets. With Canon in LV, a single press will fire the entire set. Mako has introduced the Straw Man
That 2-sec or even 10-sec delay is the delay only to start HDR series shots but no delay between shots (as least in 5D3) as said by Hans Kruse in another thread earlier.
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If shooting in LV you don't need the delay as mirror won't cycle...or with Nikon, you can add a delay between mirror rise and shutter opening. Not sure if there is a similar Canon or Sony setting. Might be
steelhead3
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I guess I misunderstood, I don't normally bracket so it seemed bizarre to me this conversation about release; my 900 has to move the mirror but my 77 and 77II don't have a moveable mirror. What difference does it make whether to hold down release for the shot if your using a remote for one shot or three shots?
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I am also comtemplating a switch but I just couldn't bare losing the EF24-70 f/2.8 L II. The Nikon's version is bulky, heavy and optically inferior. Unfortunately, I have also tried the Nikon D810 which is SOOOO SWEET! It feels quiet, confident and snappy, focus is even better if not the same as the 5D3.
However with the recent introduction of the higher performing EF16-35 f/4 IS L, Canon now has a significantly superior lens lineup from wide to tele. Bodies change from time to time (not so much for Canon though haha) as progress in electronics are quick, but glasses are generally a long term investment that can last for many years.
Sacrificing a superior lens lineup for a short term access to a superior sensor doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Owning dual system (Canon and Nikon) also don't make sense as its just extra costs with little benefits.
I wish one the followings would happen soon:
1) Canon would step up and come up with a competitive sensor tech (YESSS!!!)
2) Canon outsource its sensor to Sony (Yay! Man up and admit it where you can't win. No shame in that.)
3) Sigma come up with optically superior Art zooms like the 24-70 f/2.8, 70-200 f/2.8. I love Sigma not only because of their superior optics now, but also they allow you to convert your mount for a small fee. You are no longer tied to any single camera manufacturer! (Having high quality brand agnostic AF lenses is GREEEAAT!)
4) Nikon renew its lens lineup to be on par or superior to Canon (Uh...oh...I worry about my wallet...)
Does 5D mark III give me problems per se? Not really.
Can I notice the image quality difference? YES. Its quite obvious, especially when I process the RAWs of 5D3 and A7R in Lightroom, I can see the big difference in terms of malleability, tones as well as detail retention. Is this a curse?
So anyway.....I am really looking forward to Photokina.
However with the recent introduction of the higher performing EF16-35 f/4 IS L, Canon now has a significantly superior lens lineup from wide to tele. Bodies change from time to time (not so much for Canon though haha) as progress in electronics are quick, but glasses are generally a long term investment that can last for many years.
Sacrificing a superior lens lineup for a short term access to a superior sensor doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Owning dual system (Canon and Nikon) also don't make sense as its just extra costs with little benefits.
I wish one the followings would happen soon:
1) Canon would step up and come up with a competitive sensor tech (YESSS!!!)
2) Canon outsource its sensor to Sony (Yay! Man up and admit it where you can't win. No shame in that.)
3) Sigma come up with optically superior Art zooms like the 24-70 f/2.8, 70-200 f/2.8. I love Sigma not only because of their superior optics now, but also they allow you to convert your mount for a small fee. You are no longer tied to any single camera manufacturer! (Having high quality brand agnostic AF lenses is GREEEAAT!)
4) Nikon renew its lens lineup to be on par or superior to Canon (Uh...oh...I worry about my wallet...)
Does 5D mark III give me problems per se? Not really.
Can I notice the image quality difference? YES. Its quite obvious, especially when I process the RAWs of 5D3 and A7R in Lightroom, I can see the big difference in terms of malleability, tones as well as detail retention. Is this a curse?
So anyway.....I am really looking forward to Photokina.
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It still could have shutter vibration. But it's much less than A7R so might not be a big issue. For A7R, automatic consecutive HDR shots is not a good option (3 photos on either 1.0 or 2.0 EV), so manual individual shots with EC is better on tripod that you can control thru a smartphone without touching camera.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-a7/11
But higher DR in Sony sensor makes less need for HDR which in general not in my taste with surreal look unless do really well.
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3587364
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Not really an issue like the A7r...haven't seen an examples where shutter vibration is a problem in that setting with Canon/Nikon...unless you were speaking only of the A7 when you said... "But I will not do this way on tripod as vibration doesn't have enough time damping down in a series of shots and will affect sharpness"
Sure shutter vibration is not an issue in standalone shot in Canon and Nikon but still could be an issue in consecutive HDR shots without an interval between (at least in Canon case). Personally I don't shoot HDR much. I remember Hans Kruse also advised against using auto HDR on tripod and he owns a 5D3 so I guess he might have experience in this area. He is one of photographers I trust in experiences and knowledge.
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Still not seeing shutter vibration as an issue with Canon...even in consecutive HDR brackets. It is an issue with the A7r. Mirror slap may come into play but you can also make that a non issue with LV
Auto HDR, isn't the only way to shoot HDR on a tripod with the 5D3
One big advantage of our A7R is that still can use our beloved EF lenses. I personally have not seen much degradation in edges/corners such as from EF 24-70L/2.8 II on A7R.
In daytime, except resolution I don't see much difference between A7R and 5D3. But in evening I appreciate A7R cleanness in sky and dark areas even after just moderate shadow lifting, also richer color tonality that is more obvious in low light.
Until today, Canon Rumors site is so quiet. Except 7D II and 100-400L II seem confirmed, high-resolution Canon camera is not a done deal by Photokina. In comparison Nikon and Sony have much solid rumors on their respective new big announcements.
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/08/11/t...ra-will-be-marketed-as-an-action-camera.aspx/
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-multiple-sony-announcements-august-19-sept-3-and-more/
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Where will that new Nikon sit in the lineup?
They say it's full frame and made for sports. So it will probably have the D810's AF system, but the MP count of the D610 so that the engine of the D810 can get 8-9 fps...and if they're smart, it will have a 20-30 file RAW buffer.
Pretty sweet IMHO.
Between D610 and D810, call D710?
That will be a dream to many people.
Then why photographers except few true sport PJs want to buy D4s?
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