Banned because some winnie here complains. Because they can't make the argument?
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Would good 10D owner upgrade the firmware?
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We've already been through the "bad batch scenario" and it didn't pan out. I have two of these units and one is an early model 022 series (which most thought were the "bad batch") and the other is a later model 042 series. They both perform identically to MY satisfaction. As for providing images for YOU to judge, just hold your breath until I get back. ;-)
If you assuming there is one assembly line when they're cranking out the unit than you're right. And it doen't explain the abnormal defect show by some. But, there can be more than one and you may the lucky one getting both 10D from good assembly line other people might not.
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And just because you got sand in your camera and messed it up further trying to clean it out yourself and Canon didn't fix it to your satisfaction, you set out on a crusade. I'd say that was more likely the reason you got banned.
Hmm, my crusade? You're only vocal preacher here promising haven if people just stop having doubt in the creator. I'm on the other hand trust no one except my own observation.
My original first posting on this site only state that I'm not happy with AF System and that in your narrow mind you considered that as 10D bashing. And you're will going to the end defending it.
I guess only you're hardware geek here who know what they talking about and every one else are incompetent to evaluate a peace of equipment.
Please try stick to the point and don't change the subject. When did I said my 10D was send for a repair? Do you have ESP ability or you start hearing voices in your head?
My original first posting on this site only state that I'm not happy with AF System and that in your narrow mind you considered that as 10D bashing. And you're will going to the end defending it.
I guess only you're hardware geek here who know what they talking about and every one else are incompetent to evaluate a peace of equipment.
Please try stick to the point and don't change the subject. When did I said my 10D was send for a repair? Do you have ESP ability or you start hearing voices in your head?
Petteri Sulonen
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Maybe in your company. At mine, we release patches even for minor issues. ;-)
Seriously, many FW updates address no major issues, instead they add minor tweaks or features, eliminate unusual crashers or other flukes, and so on. I used to have a Minolta D7i, and updated its firmware at least three or four times... and I only encountered a problem that could conceivably have been fixed in the firmware one single time (pulling out the CF card with the camera switched on led to a freeze that only a "reset to defaults" cleared).
Possible... but the firmware update is extremely unlikely to address it, as it's a calibration issue, not a firmware issue.
Ooo, flame flame. [sigh]
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Don't mean to be defensive. But, if your consider lockup or crashed are minor issue then we're using different scale
SickRick
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Point being, if you'd take the time to READ this forum, (and others) you WOULD see the difference between SLR & DSLR, and be able to adjust your TECHNIQUE accordingly.
I started out here like you (though I didn't complain my camera wasn't working right). The more I shoot REAL THINGS with the camera, the more I understand how IT works (remembering IT doesn't have to understand how I WORK). I tailor what little technique I have, to my growing knowlege of how to get BETTER RESULTS (that's the object here, right?) with the gear I've INVESTED IN (I consider $5000 an investment, wouldn't YOU?)
I can't MAKE you do anything. I SUGGEST you read up a little more on using the 10D system, DISCOVER the differences in hi-res digital photography (versus film), take time to LEARN how to get the best results with new equipment, THEN, if you still have a problem, POST EXAMPLES with exif and descriptions and people can try and help figure out WHERE the problem lies.
85% of the focusing problems show on this forum were NOT the camera NO FOCUSING, but rather shallow DOF and the camera locking somewhere OTHER than where we (meaning you and ME) wanted it to. This seems to be an anomoly of this body over others, but not necessarily a DEFECT, which just MIGHT be addressed by the firmware update that we ALL are waiting to see announced...
LIGHTEN UP DUDE!
Rick
And a better lens could make an average photographer take better pictures.
I started out here like you (though I didn't complain my camera wasn't working right). The more I shoot REAL THINGS with the camera, the more I understand how IT works (remembering IT doesn't have to understand how I WORK). I tailor what little technique I have, to my growing knowlege of how to get BETTER RESULTS (that's the object here, right?) with the gear I've INVESTED IN (I consider $5000 an investment, wouldn't YOU?)
I can't MAKE you do anything. I SUGGEST you read up a little more on using the 10D system, DISCOVER the differences in hi-res digital photography (versus film), take time to LEARN how to get the best results with new equipment, THEN, if you still have a problem, POST EXAMPLES with exif and descriptions and people can try and help figure out WHERE the problem lies.
85% of the focusing problems show on this forum were NOT the camera NO FOCUSING, but rather shallow DOF and the camera locking somewhere OTHER than where we (meaning you and ME) wanted it to. This seems to be an anomoly of this body over others, but not necessarily a DEFECT, which just MIGHT be addressed by the firmware update that we ALL are waiting to see announced...
LIGHTEN UP DUDE!
Rick
And a better lens could make an average photographer take better pictures.
Chris Epler
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Pffft! WRONG! Fix it till it breaks then go back one step. You don't like to optimize do you?
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You've not changed since you were banned before and there's no use trying to deal with you at all..
I'm sure what you're smoking but I think you have mistaking me for someone else since day one.
DavidP #28649
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I think he thinks you're mini-me, aka B. Simpson, aka many other things.
You don't sound like him to me.
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You don't sound like him to me.
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Sweet Breath
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Thanks for taking time to write your responses. I do appreciate your input.
It's true that there are plenty of things to be learned about photography and I for one still learning the rope.
Like you've I invested in Canon gears even though not as much as you do. When it comes to investment I do have certain expectations. For equipments I expect it to be well build and reliable. My expectation may be high but not overly critical.
Points taken. I learn quite a bit of post processing technique from this board.
It's true that some OOF are introduced by new SLR/DSLR user. I'm comming from SLR background and quite familier with Canon camera and very comfortable around one. I too can't wait for the new firmware update to be released and hopefully it will address some major issues reported here.
I for one are very optimistic that firmware reslove some of the issues reported here. If not I can still send it in for repair if needed. I know and trust that Canon will stand behind their products. But unlike other I don't place blind trust in any brand. I like test and compare spec for hardwares that I buy not just camera.
Anyway have niceday
Who is mini-me characters?
Petteri Sulonen
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On a digital camera, they are minor issues... if they happen infrequently. If they're reproducible or frequent, then they are major ones.Don't mean to be defensive. But, if your consider lockup or crashed
are minor issue then we're using different scale
Every digital system will lock up or crash eventually, if you abuse it enough. That's why the Space Shuttle has its avionics computer in triplicate. Mean time between failures may be measured in millions of hours, but it's never infinte. I think one crash per year of intensive use (and in an unusual situation at that) is very good performance.
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Odd... how did you manage to do that in the 4 days since you've joined this forum? All you've done since joining has been either creating "10D focus issue" threads or participating in existing ones and you've been quite active in doing that. ;-)
Petteri Sulonen
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Someone who used to be a regular on this forum. He had some misadventures with his 10D (didn't focus to his satisfaction, then he got sand into it, tried inexpertly to clean it, causing some damage, and had consequent problems getting Canon service to fix it). Problem was, he was extremely prolific about raving and ranting about it, especially generalizing his bad experiences to all Canons, advising people not to buy them and so on. Didn't help his popularity...
Personally, I'm still wondering whether any of his problems were actually real. They could have been: there have been miscalibrated and even downright bad 10D's in circulation. However, his postings led me to suspect that he wasn't a very competent camera user: from where I'm sitting, there was no way to tell whether the problems were in the camera or behind it. Or both, maybe.
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Actually, the camera did perform to his satisfaction in the beginning. It wasn't until he'd gotten sand in the thing, tried to clear it himself, and then sent it into Canon for repair did he begin his ranting with the assistance of a few others.
Petteri Sulonen
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OK, I stand corrected. I hope he's happy now, wherever he is... [sigh]
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