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Exactly why a pro DX is needed. Plus great back up (and extension) to my FX camera/lenses.
 
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The D7100 is due for a replacement imho. And they could but that at 1500 and make it able to fill the D300 spot. Obviously this new FX camera will bring a new body style, so it might fit very well in there.
 
Continuing this line of thought - if you were going to make a new DX Pro body with insanely high frame rates (higher than D4) for action photography then you wouldn't want to handicap it with the 24MPix sensor you have in the consumer bodies. You would use a specialised sensor with less data to process. Somewhere in the 12-16Mpix range.

Now that might just be worth $2500
 
OceanFroggie said:
End of DX does not seem to tally with the reality of Nikon's actions
  • 12 DX camera bodies launched since 2009
  • 8 FX camera bodies launched since 2009
By volumn the D3xxx models out sell all other models, nearly combined! Nikon know full well this market segment will not hoof around the weight of 24-70 on a full frame body. DX or smaller bodies are the future for the mass ILC market.
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I think all the angst is over the end of DX on the high end style bodies (D200,D300). Does beg the question about how far down the model line FX will push over the next years. That and how DX on the F mount with it's deep flange distance will fair against mirrorless, modern APS-C designs from other companies. Frankly I think Nikon is just badly missing a really juicy market that is begging for a D400 like camera. Not FX, not in the D600/D7000 body, that's not the "action" cam people want.

If I was Nikon I'd move DX on F mount off the low end over time to a new mirrorless DX mount. Leave physical mirror SLR to the higher end large models, or maybe also adding a tiny, well featured, but simple FM3a like DSLR camera, super small (retro?)FX. But continuing the high end DX DSLRs!!

Offer DX versions of the higher end FX DSLRs (like the D300/D700 dynamic duo!) with optimized viewfinders and high FPS. Nikon make a D410! I'd pay D800 prices for one, IF it had a fantastic viewfinder, 8fps (with added MB-12 grip if need be), full D300/D700/D810 class chasis and ergonomics. Great video (4k!) would be a nice bonus.
 
I think they are going to introduce two cameras. Kinda like D3 and D300. And they will not be your fathers DSLR.

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And six people panicked.
 
Why do people want to use crop mode in the first place? Get a 150-600 and be done with crops
 
camguyed said:
I am a professional school photographer. I take over 100,000 images a year with about 70% being sports. I have 2 - D300's and a D200 as a backup. One of the D300's is mine and the other is the company's. I obviously use the company's body for all of the work I do for them. I have had and used their D300 for five years now and it has over 500,000 exposures on it. The shutter had to re-geared by Nikon at 390,000 exposures. I have been using Nikons since 1974 and have never had a reason to switch brands, The D300 is the best camera I have ever used and I would be happy to keep using it untill I retire.

I would also like another stop or two in ISO speed as those night High School football games can be difficult even at ISO 3200. FF is not an option as my lenses give so much more of a reach with the DX sensor. A 70-200mm f:2,8 is now a 105-300mm f:2.8. From everything to the price point to the weather sealing to the ruggedness the D300/D300s is a true professional camera in every sense of the word. After being with Nikon for fourty years I find it hard to believe that they would abandon photographers like myself. I thought about switching but have deceided to stay at least untill my D300's can no longer be repaired.

Nikon has always been on the conservative side. In the past they usually come out with a new model after Canon does. If Canon is soon coming out with their version of a D400 then I expect that Nikon will follow with a D400/D9300 within a year. It will be superior to the Canon version. Maybe I'm dreaming or maybe I am correct, but I am not ready to give up my D300's.
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"FF is not an option as my lenses give so much more of a reach with the DX sensor. A 70-200mm f:2,8 is now a 105-300mm f:2.8. "

no, it is not. it is still a 70-200mm f:2.8 and a 105-300mm f:4.2 equivalent.

"From everything to the price point to the weather sealing to the ruggedness the D300/D300s is a true professional camera in every sense of the word. "

can you find any reports of d600 got lesser seal than d300?
 
Mr Gadget said:
Kerry Pierce said:
That is very unwelcome speculation and I hope that NR is wrong about it.
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For me, the cost of moving to a FX sensor based camera is not in the cost of the body, but in the cost of the glass that I would have to buy to be comfortable with the new body. I would for sure have to replace my 12-24 and 17-55 with the 14-24 and the 24-70 for around $3900 give or take. It is highly likely that I would have to also upgrade my 70-200 VRI with the latest version which would be yet another $1900 or so.

So for me the cost of "upgrading" to FX is probably going to be in the neighborhood of $6300 to $10K - if I have to write that large of a check, I am for sure going to be looking at what other systems might offer.
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sad to see people got so badly sucked into marketing nonsense like this.

by going ff, you pay more with body but you save big on lenses

for example 2485vr on ff is comparble to 1755 on dx, you save about 900usd, 18-35g on ff outpforms even the most expensive uwa on dx. 35 1.8 on fx is only 2/5 the price of 24/1.4 on dx
 
JimPearce said:
We may have different shooting habits, but nonetheless reach the same conclusion. My photography is 95% with the 300 f2.8 VR handheld and 500 f4 (mostly with TC-14E) on the tripod on DX. Quite frankly I can't see improving that by using the TC-14E all of the time with the 300mm on FX and replacing the 500mm with a 600mm (and cropping). Oh, and there's no 600mm FL VR from Nikon yet anyway. Since I'll need to use Adobe anyway all I need is the right APS-C camera to go Canon.
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Hi Jim;

Actually I've been pretty happy with my D800 as an upgrade from my old D300, but one thing I don't care for is the shallow DOF on FX, especially when shooting @ 700mm (w/TC14EII) at close range -- which is quite often. I really need to stop down to f8 or more a lot of the time but the light just doesn't allow for it much of the time. That's one area where DX is superior.

I also should have mentioned in my previous post that I'm expecting the sensor in the 7DII will need to be "Exmor-like"....if not that could be a sticking point.

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Gary -- Some Nikon stuff -- and a preference for wildlife in natural light
www.pbase.com/garyirwin
 
ultimitsu said:
ultimitsu said:
I am a professional school photographer. I take over 100,000 images a year with about 70% being sports. I have 2 - D300's and a D200 as a backup. One of the D300's is mine and the other is the company's. I obviously use the company's body for all of the work I do for them. I have had and used their D300 for five years now and it has over 500,000 exposures on it. The shutter had to re-geared by Nikon at 390,000 exposures. I have been using Nikons since 1974 and have never had a reason to switch brands, The D300 is the best camera I have ever used and I would be happy to keep using it untill I retire.

I would also like another stop or two in ISO speed as those night High School football games can be difficult even at ISO 3200. FF is not an option as my lenses give so much more of a reach with the DX sensor. A 70-200mm f:2,8 is now a 105-300mm f:2.8. From everything to the price point to the weather sealing to the ruggedness the D300/D300s is a true professional camera in every sense of the word. After being with Nikon for fourty years I find it hard to believe that they would abandon photographers like myself. I thought about switching but have deceided to stay at least untill my D300's can no longer be repaired.

Nikon has always been on the conservative side. In the past they usually come out with a new model after Canon does. If Canon is soon coming out with their version of a D400 then I expect that Nikon will follow with a D400/D9300 within a year. It will be superior to the Canon version. Maybe I'm dreaming or maybe I am correct, but I am not ready to give up my D300's.
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"FF is not an option as my lenses give so much more of a reach with the DX sensor. A 70-200mm f:2,8 is now a 105-300mm f:2.8. "

no, it is not. it is still a 70-200mm f:2.8 and a 105-300mm f:4.2 equivalent.
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I have a bridge to sell you ...
ultimitsu said:
"From everything to the price point to the weather sealing to the ruggedness the D300/D300s is a true professional camera in every sense of the word. "

can you find any reports of d600 got lesser seal than d300?
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An Instamatic in a plastic bag is protected from the weather too. Yet you cannot find any report about that ...


JC
Some cameras, some lenses, some computers
 
ultimitsu said:
Mr Gadget said:
Kerry Pierce said:
That is very unwelcome speculation and I hope that NR is wrong about it.
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For me, the cost of moving to a FX sensor based camera is not in the cost of the body, but in the cost of the glass that I would have to buy to be comfortable with the new body. I would for sure have to replace my 12-24 and 17-55 with the 14-24 and the 24-70 for around $3900 give or take. It is highly likely that I would have to also upgrade my 70-200 VRI with the latest version which would be yet another $1900 or so.

So for me the cost of "upgrading" to FX is probably going to be in the neighborhood of $6300 to $10K - if I have to write that large of a check, I am for sure going to be looking at what other systems might offer.
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sad to see people got so badly sucked into marketing nonsense like this.

by going ff, you pay more with body but you save big on lenses

for example 2485vr on ff is comparble to 1755 on dx, you save about 900usd, 18-35g on ff outpforms even the most expensive uwa on dx. 35 1.8 on fx is only 2/5 the price of 24/1.4 on dx
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Yeah, sure.


JC
Some cameras, some lenses, some computers
 
jcvjcvjcvjcv said:
As far as DOF is concerned, he is right, JC:

See for yourself:

http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html
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I know that is what he is talking about. That DOF obsession is a recurring topic :-)

I want to capture light. If I can get a valid image of a musician in a dark club at f/1.0 and it is in focus, DOF is the least of my concerns.


JC
Some cameras, some lenses, some computers
 
Hi Sandy,

I agree.

Michel said as much in another post recently and also some months ago.

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Historically, Michel has been fairly accurate when he discloses info of upcoming Nikons on DP Review.

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teirnav

sandy b wrote:
sandy b said:
I think they are going to introduce two cameras. Kinda like D3 and D300. And they will not be your fathers DSLR.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/54196651
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Retzius said:
Geomaticsman said:
Indeed, but if this speculation is true and Canon release their 7DII w/"1D quality" as rumoured, that, coupled with Canon's EXISTING supertele selection and the fact that Nikon jettisoned CNX2 means it's the end of Nikon for me.

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Gary -- Some Nikon stuff -- and a preference for wildlife in natural light
www.pbase.com/garyirwin
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Photokina is the break point for me. No D400 and I will sell my Nikon gear and move one.

I will check out the 7DII, but I must say the Sony A77 MkII is amazing for the money.

The A77 MkII with the 16-50 and the 70-400 would make a killer kit. I had the chance to try it a few weeks ago and it was pretty darn awesome.
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How's the AF tracking compared to D300s? (If you have tried it)
 
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