should I upgrade from a nikon d3200 to a d300s

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I currently have the option to upgrade my d3200 plus $75 for a d300s. i love wildlife phoography, landcape and nature and macro and have a tamron 28-75 and 70-300mm vc.

thanks

Will
 
Image quality: no

Everything else: yes

With 'everything' being: more buttons on body, tougher body, bigger body (holds better), nicer grip option, dual card slot, shorter mirror blackout, bigger viewfinder, higher framerate, 1/8000 max shutter speed

It is a lot heavier though, but different people value that differently. Some people find my D300 + grip (AA's) + 17-55 too heavy. But I find it easier to hold than a D40 with a SB900 on top, because I can use my entire hand to hold it instead of just a few fingers. Putting a SB900 on top of a D40 means the center of gravity moves up a lot. With a D300... not so much.

You would lose the cheap remote option though.
 
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So will

Will The noise be much worse than the d3200, I would love to have 8fps but I hear the video is pretty terrible. Would the extras be a better match for my interests in photography. Thanks
 
The noise on a D300s on ISO 800 is about as bad as 1200 on a D3200.

Don't forget the D300s is half the resolution.

For landscapes it seems to me most of the benefits of the D300s would go unused anyway
 
What about sports, nature and wildlife, specifically birding, would it still be better than a d3200.
Thanks
 
For sports you would be better off with a D300s yes.

But then you also want fast-focusing lenses.
 
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Don't forget the D300s is half the resolution.
Actually it's 40% of the resolution, assuming you can extract everything the D3200 has to offer. Since the D3200 does not have Mirror lock up and the D300 does, often the resolution difference between the two will be far less or could even favor the D300s.
 
I currently have the option to upgrade my d3200 plus $75 for a d300s. i love wildlife phoography, landcape and nature and macro and have a tamron 28-75 and 70-300mm vc.

thanks

Will
I happen to have a D300 and I love it - got it secondhand a couple of years ago - but most of my birding has actually been done with a D70 which in some respects I prefer for birding because of the proper high speed x-sync.

Example:



 (British) Robin - about the size of a sparrow, D70, Sigma 105mm, Sigma flashgun

(British) Robin - about the size of a sparrow, D70, Sigma 105mm, Sigma flashgun

You should find comprehensive reviews of the D3200 and D300s in the Reviews section of this website. From that you should be able to determine whether the differences in features and performance will address whatever issues you have.

Wil, if you think changing camera will make a quantum leap improvement in your photography, I think you may be in for a disappointment.

David
 
Don't forget that with a D300s there is nowhere to hide ... there is no 'auto' or 'scene' options. It's PASM only. On the positive side though, you will learn how to use these better as you cannot just be 'idle' and flip to auto-mode. This is actually one of the reasons I moved from D90 to D300s :) To force me to learn how to use the camera correctly ;)
 
I currently have the option to upgrade my d3200 plus $75 for a d300s. i love wildlife phoography, landcape and nature and macro and have a tamron 28-75 and 70-300mm vc.

thanks

Will
The D300s will give you musch more control than you can achieve with the D3200. The main drawback is that the D3200 has a new sensor that works better in low light and high ISO ...


JC
Some cameras, some lenses, some computers
 
You would lose the cheap remote option though.
You can get wired remotes that attach to the 10 pin connector for less than $10 each.
Yes, but it's still nowhere near as user friendly as the build-in IR receiver on cheaper bodies. And you need to find an off-brand one to get to $10.
Don't forget the D300s is half the resolution.
Actually it's 40% of the resolution, assuming you can extract everything the D3200 has to offer. Since the D3200 does not have Mirror lock up and the D300 does, often the resolution difference between the two will be far less or could even favor the D300s.
Can't you extract 24 MP from it?

Lol, I never thought of it not having mirror lockup. My D300 has it, but I rarely use it.
Don't forget that with a D300s there is nowhere to hide ... there is no 'auto' or 'scene' options. It's PASM only. On the positive side though, you will learn how to use these better as you cannot just be 'idle' and flip to auto-mode. This is actually one of the reasons I moved from D90 to D300s :) To force me to learn how to use the camera correctly ;)
 
This is actually one of the reasons I moved from D90 to D300s :) To force me to learn how to use the camera correctly ;)
Whorty, that's an interesting reason for acquiring a D300: being forced to do photography properly!

I actually loathed those scene mode icons on my D70 and of course never used them. To me they cheapened the camera: a bit like having a Mickey Mouse icon on the camera!

:-)
 
This is actually one of the reasons I moved from D90 to D300s :) To force me to learn how to use the camera correctly ;)
Whorty, that's an interesting reason for acquiring a D300: being forced to do photography properly!

I actually loathed those scene mode icons on my D70 and of course never used them. To me they cheapened the camera: a bit like having a Mickey Mouse icon on the camera!

:-)
LOL ... it was just too easy to switch to an auto or scene mode and I was just being idle :) With the D300s I have no choice but to think about the light and exposure etc. I'm not sure it's made my photography any better, but at least now I understand a bit more about how cameras work - ha ha
 
Don't forget that with a D300s there is nowhere to hide ... there is no 'auto' or 'scene' options. It's PASM only. On the positive side though, you will learn how to use these better as you cannot just be 'idle' and flip to auto-mode. This is actually one of the reasons I moved from D90 to D300s :) To force me to learn how to use the camera correctly ;)
 
well I decided to stick with my D3200 for the reason that i think when i buy a d610 or D7100 next year the D3200 will be a better backup, i considered the 8FPS but i think i may become far to accustomed to closing my eyes and holding the shutter. I agree that there would be no where to hide with a d300s but in all truth i shoot in manuel mode, raw and actually do everything myself (iso and white balence). I think i may be able to use the higher resolution to my advantage, i.e cropping the birds. although i would love a d300s i also love my d3200 and therefore will be staying with it, p.s ill keep it as a backup when i buy a d610 or d7100 or perhaps a d400 :-).

thanks for the info guys
 
You would lose the cheap remote option though.
You can get wired remotes that attach to the 10 pin connector for less than $10 each.
Yes, but it's still nowhere near as user friendly as the build-in IR receiver on cheaper bodies. And you need to find an off-brand one to get to $10.
Nothing is more user friendly than a simple on/off button, and my experience with off-brands has been very good.
Don't forget the D300s is half the resolution.
Actually it's 40% of the resolution, assuming you can extract everything the D3200 has to offer. Since the D3200 does not have Mirror lock up and the D300 does, often the resolution difference between the two will be far less or could even favor the D300s.
Can't you extract 24 MP from it?
You can often get more resolution from a 24 MP camera than from a 12 MP camera. Nonetheless, under absolutely ideal conditions you never get more than 40% more linear resolution (just do the math comparing the longest axis on the 24 MP sensor to the longest axis on the 12 MP sensor).
Lol, I never thought of it not having mirror lockup. My D300 has it, but I rarely use it.
I use mine all the time for landscape and macro photography. I can see the difference between using MLU and not in many situations, so it's pretty much used whenever I am using a tripod. Now if I can see the difference on a 12 MP photo, then it stands to reason that not using MLU on a 24 MP photo isn't going to get you any more and often will get you less than you could get using MLU on the 12 MP photo.
 

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