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EF-M 11-22mm - Canon's Sharpest APS-C lens?

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Apart from FF EF lenses, is there anything sharper from Canon

http://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compa...F-S-17-55-f-2.8-IS-USM___1170_819_309_0_169_0

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I love this lens - so sharp corner to corner.

So good for landscapes

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It would be even better if I could put it on a 20mp Dual Pixel sensor like my 70D, as the sharpness ratings seem to go up a couple of points

http://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compa...M-on-Canon-EOS-70D___1170_819_309_895_169_895

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Plenty more examples in my EF-M 11-22 Flickr Album https://www.flickr.com/photos/lozwilkes/sets/72157635411685041/

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Lawrence
My Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/lozwilkes/
 
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So it is apples to apples you should dial in the 650D for it has, we are told, the same sensor as the M.

The Sigma 18-35 or the 22F2? You can compare these two lenses on my "Shootout at the 35mm corral thread".
 
Abu Mahendra said:
So it is apples to apples you should dial in the 650D for it has, we are told, the same sensor as the M.
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The 650D and the 700D use the same sensor. Well it's even worse it's the exact same camera besides the fully rotating knob on the top


Only the 100D uses the upgraded version and that's only different in the on sensor AF system. that is also found in the M2.

The 70D does use an entirely new sensor though. The first in about 5 years and still not much better. Well the AF is pretty exciting though.
Abu Mahendra said:
The Sigma 18-35 or the 22F2? You can compare these two lenses on my "Shootout at the 35mm corral thread".
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Yes, but you dialed in the 70D and the 7D, not the 700D.

As I suspected, by Canon the 60Macro and the 22F2 better the 11-22. But the Sigma 18-35 reigns supreme over all. Now, let's hope the one day, soon, Sigma decides to release the Sigma 18-35 for the M with the same sterling optics. I'd get the 60Macro were it not for the fact that I already own the 100L (and the 135L is in the pipeline).

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...but yes, I have a lot of love for the 11-22 too.
 
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Abu Mahendra said:
Yes, but you dialed in the 70D and the 7D, not the 700D.
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That was mister Lawrence. my link was the 700D
Abu Mahendra said:
As I suspected, by Canon the 60Macro and the 22F2 better the 11-22. But the Sigma 18-35 reigns supreme over all. Now, let's hope the one day, soon, Sigma decides to release the Sigma 18-35 for the M with the same sterling optics. I'd get the 60Macro were it not for the fact that I already own the 100L (and the 135L is in the pipeline).

651595e4aa21446687781f6e4a24c566.jpg

...but yes, I have a lot of love for the 11-22 too.
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Abu Mahendra said:
So it is apples to apples you should dial in the 650D for it has, we are told, the same sensor as the M.

The Sigma 18-35 or the 22F2? You can compare these two lenses on my "Shootout at the 35mm corral thread".
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But the 650D and 700D use the Hybrid II sensor, so it needs to be a 600D/60/7D for apples to apples.

Ergo, if the 17-55 and 60mm are better on the 700D, then you would expect the 11-22 to be better too.

Pity DXO don't have a M2 in their tests.
 
Lawrencew said:
Abu Mahendra said:
So it is apples to apples you should dial in the 650D for it has, we are told, the same sensor as the M.

The Sigma 18-35 or the 22F2? You can compare these two lenses on my "Shootout at the 35mm corral thread".
Click to expand...
But the 650D and 700D use the Hybrid II sensor, so it needs to be a 600D/60/7D for apples to apples.
Click to expand...
the Hybrid 2 sensor is only used in the 100D/SL1 and the Eos M2.

The 650D 700D and Eos M use the hybrid 1 sensor.

The 550D/600D/7D/60D/1200D have no phase detect on sensor all. But seem to yield the best results. Probably since they have no dedicated pixels for AF and the rest is the same anyway.
Lawrencew said:
Ergo, if the 17-55 and 60mm are better on the 700D, then you would expect the 11-22 to be better too.
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Lawrencew said:
Pity DXO don't have a M2 in their tests.

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Regards
Lawrence
My Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/lozwilkes/
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BarnET said:
Lawrencew said:
Abu Mahendra said:
So it is apples to apples you should dial in the 650D for it has, we are told, the same sensor as the M.

The Sigma 18-35 or the 22F2? You can compare these two lenses on my "Shootout at the 35mm corral thread".
Click to expand...
But the 650D and 700D use the Hybrid II sensor, so it needs to be a 600D/60/7D for apples to apples.
Click to expand...
the Hybrid 2 sensor is only used in the 100D/SL1 and the Eos M2.

The 650D 700D and Eos M use the hybrid 1 sensor.

The 550D/600D/7D/60D/1200D have no phase detect on sensor all. But seem to yield the best results. Probably since they have no dedicated pixels for AF and the rest is the same anyway.
BarnET said:
Ergo, if the 17-55 and 60mm are better on the 700D, then you would expect the 11-22 to be better too.
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BarnET said:
Pity DXO don't have a M2 in their tests.
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Abu Mahendra said:
Abu Mahendra said:
Lawrencew said:
Abu Mahendra said:
So it is apples to apples you should dial in the 650D for it has, we are told, the same sensor as the M.

The Sigma 18-35 or the 22F2? You can compare these two lenses on my "Shootout at the 35mm corral thread".
Click to expand...
But the 650D and 700D use the Hybrid II sensor, so it needs to be a 600D/60/7D for apples to apples.
Click to expand...
the Hybrid 2 sensor is only used in the 100D/SL1 and the Eos M2.

The 650D 700D and Eos M use the hybrid 1 sensor.

The 550D/600D/7D/60D/1200D have no phase detect on sensor all. But seem to yield the best results. Probably since they have no dedicated pixels for AF and the rest is the same anyway.
Abu Mahendra said:
Ergo, if the 17-55 and 60mm are better on the 700D, then you would expect the 11-22 to be better too.

Pity DXO don't have a M2 in their tests.
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BarnET said:
Abu Mahendra said:
BarnET said:
Lawrencew said:
Abu Mahendra said:
So it is apples to apples you should dial in the 650D for it has, we are told, the same sensor as the M.

The Sigma 18-35 or the 22F2? You can compare these two lenses on my "Shootout at the 35mm corral thread".
Click to expand...
But the 650D and 700D use the Hybrid II sensor, so it needs to be a 600D/60/7D for apples to apples.
Click to expand...
the Hybrid 2 sensor is only used in the 100D/SL1 and the Eos M2.

The 650D 700D and Eos M use the hybrid 1 sensor.

The 550D/600D/7D/60D/1200D have no phase detect on sensor all. But seem to yield the best results. Probably since they have no dedicated pixels for AF and the rest is the same anyway.
BarnET said:
Ergo, if the 17-55 and 60mm are better on the 700D, then you would expect the 11-22 to be better too.

Pity DXO don't have a M2 in their tests.
Click to expand...
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BarnET said:
The sharpest zoom on any Apsc system and by a fair margin too. Now that is an special lens.
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Yeap, the Sigma 18-35 is something else. It is one of two lenses that still keep me in APS-C DSLR.
 
OK - I forgot about the 22mm, as I rarely use it... perhaps I should!
 
Lawrencew said:
Apart from FF EF lenses, is there anything sharper from Canon

http://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compa...F-S-17-55-f-2.8-IS-USM___1170_819_309_0_169_0
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well it's DxOMark .. good for at least comparing in the same brand. if they are doing imatests out of JPG .. then between brands is next to useless and even between cameras could be a bit shakey.

The 11-22? it is when you consider it's not a prime .. and factor in with DxO a) the size b) the focal range c) price then it's certainly one of canon's better lenses - and one of the better zooms out there.

However, when you look at a b and c for all of the canon EF-M lenses - they are all pretty damned good.

Factor in to that on top of that is that Canon's DLO removes most lens aberrations and they are even better.

I don't mind the pace that canon's expanding this out at - it's starting to appear like we're getting a new lens every spring especially if they keep hitting a through c and good to excellent optical quality like they have. They are really the only ones that are.
 
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