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Ok... I am not a shutter shock believer and I have express this many times... But I got the big decision to believe and be redeemed... to save myself from the sin... So tell me what to do to experience shutter shock... give me your data... ONLY FOR OMD EM5 please... users that have seen shutter shock blur in their pictures using an OMD EM5... GIVE ME DATA... instructions... speed, focal length, lens aperture ISO WB whatever...

PLEASE help me to save myself... I will post full exif jpeg results...
 
Spiridakis Michael said:
Ok... I am not a shutter shock believer and I have express this many times... But I got the big decision to believe and be redeemed... to save myself from the sin... So tell me what to do to experience shutter shock... give me your data... ONLY FOR OMD EM5 please... users that have seen shutter shock blur in their pictures using an OMD EM5... GIVE ME DATA... instructions... speed, focal length, lens aperture ISO WB whatever...
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tell us what lenses you have.
 
Spiridakis Michael said:
Ok... I am not a shutter shock believer and I have express this many times... But I got the big decision to believe and be redeemed... to save myself from the sin... So tell me what to do to experience shutter shock... give me your data... ONLY FOR OMD EM5 please... users that have seen shutter shock blur in their pictures using an OMD EM5... GIVE ME DATA... instructions... speed, focal length, lens aperture ISO WB whatever...

PLEASE help me to save myself... I will post full exif jpeg results...
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Spiridakis Michael said:
Ok... I am not a shutter shock believer and I have express this many times... But I got the big decision to believe and be redeemed... to save myself from the sin... So tell me what to do to experience shutter shock... give me your data... ONLY FOR OMD EM5 please... users that have seen shutter shock blur in their pictures using an OMD EM5... GIVE ME DATA... instructions... speed, focal length, lens aperture ISO WB whatever...

PLEASE help me to save myself... I will post full exif jpeg results...
Click to expand...
 
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Hi Michael,

if you follow this tread, you can actually measure shutter shock yourself:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3651827
  1. If you have an old school analog scope, you can visualize shutter shock 2D.
  2. If you don't have a scope, you can take photos of MTF test charts and see that the MTF value is worst at 1/100s, the resolution will go down to 30% of normal resolution (In "modern" MPix speak, it will go down from 16MP to shocking 2MP resolution).
  3. If you don't have a scope and don't want to print boring black and white MTF charts, you can simply take a snap from something else with the settings I used and enjoy the beautiful blur in 100% view.
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CrisPhoto said:
Hi Michael,

if you follow this tread, you can actually measure shutter shock yourself:
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don't waste your time... he is not a "believer", 'nuff said.
 
Believing or not believing is irrelevant.

You must do your own test shots in the specified shutterspeed range.

With 0 sec anti-shock enabled and disabled.

You can do this with the E-P5, E-M1 and E-M10 models, but unfortunately not with the E-M5 (yet).

André
 
I've been using my E-M5 for two years with the lenses in my signature and with several others now sold (12-50 Oly, 14-140 Pan, 14-45 Pan and some others).

Earlier this year I sorted my LR library by camera, lens and shutter speed looking for shutter shock evidence. I didn't see any, but that's me, my lenses and a lot of random chance, probably.

The reason I went looking for it was that I added an E-M1 to my bag and immediately saw files with shutter shock, so I do know what I'm looking for.

This area needs a big YMMV caveat, though.
 
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One of the worst shutter shock I can get with my E-M5.

OMD with HLD-6 horizontal grip, sturdy Manfrotto tripod, lens: Olympus 40-150R.

Both are shot at 1/320, so in some cases shutter shock can be a problem even with much faster shutter speeds.

Both were shot with IS off, 2 sec timer, but first is without anti-shock, the second is with anti-shock 1/8s.

Those are 100% center crops.



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Hand held, results are better, but there is still some slight blur, reducing resolution drastically.

The problem with shutter shock is that sometimes, as here, it's obvious, but most of the time, it's more subtle, and less regarding people don't notice it. They just don't realize that their pics could be much sharper with the same lens.

That's one extreme example. My other lenses don't show it in this proportion. Since I purchased the grip, I get almost no shutter shock with the 45 1.8, as well as other lenses. The 40-150 is the most stubborn, and if I want to get tack sharp pictures, I have to use anti-shock.
 
photofan1986 said:
One of the worst shutter shock I can get with my E-M5.

OMD with HLD-6 horizontal grip, sturdy Manfrotto tripod, lens: Olympus 40-150R.

Both are shot at 1/320, so in some cases shutter shock can be a problem even with much faster shutter speeds.

Both were shot with IS off, 2 sec timer, but first is without anti-shock, the second is with anti-shock 1/8s.

Those are 100% center crops.

80b6b55bae2b4bb9beb8ba2d06b752d5.jpg

3698719f45424ffeb8474ed4b5e0b0d9.jpg

Hand held, results are better, but there is still some slight blur, reducing resolution drastically.

The problem with shutter shock is that sometimes, as here, it's obvious, but most of the time, it's more subtle, and less regarding people don't notice it. They just don't realize that their pics could be much sharper with the same lens.

That's one extreme example. My other lenses don't show it in this proportion. Since I purchased the grip, I get almost no shutter shock with the 45 1.8, as well as other lenses. The 40-150 is the most stubborn, and if I want to get tack sharp pictures, I have to use anti-shock.
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OMD with HLD-6 horizontal grip, sturdy Manfrotto tripod, lens: Olympus 40-150R.

This is about the only time I might expect to see SS, with a cameras mounted to a tripod and using longer lenses, and this is the whole idea behind setting the delay.

Hand held SS should not be a problem for most of us, anti shock delay helps those disabled enough who have problems but your talking total nonsense by claiming we all get it, but don`t notice.
 
As I said, with the 45mm and the grip, there is practically no sign of shutter shock, as you have shown.
 
Paulmorgan said:
photofan1986 said:
One of the worst shutter shock I can get with my E-M5.

OMD with HLD-6 horizontal grip, sturdy Manfrotto tripod, lens: Olympus 40-150R.

Both are shot at 1/320, so in some cases shutter shock can be a problem even with much faster shutter speeds.

Both were shot with IS off, 2 sec timer, but first is without anti-shock, the second is with anti-shock 1/8s.

Those are 100% center crops.

80b6b55bae2b4bb9beb8ba2d06b752d5.jpg

3698719f45424ffeb8474ed4b5e0b0d9.jpg

Hand held, results are better, but there is still some slight blur, reducing resolution drastically.

The problem with shutter shock is that sometimes, as here, it's obvious, but most of the time, it's more subtle, and less regarding people don't notice it. They just don't realize that their pics could be much sharper with the same lens.

That's one extreme example. My other lenses don't show it in this proportion. Since I purchased the grip, I get almost no shutter shock with the 45 1.8, as well as other lenses. The 40-150 is the most stubborn, and if I want to get tack sharp pictures, I have to use anti-shock.
Click to expand...
OMD with HLD-6 horizontal grip, sturdy Manfrotto tripod, lens: Olympus 40-150R.

This is about the only time I might expect to see SS, with a cameras mounted to a tripod and using longer lenses, and this is the whole idea behind setting the delay.

Hand held SS should not be a problem for most of us, anti shock delay helps those disabled enough who have problems but your talking total nonsense by claiming we all get it, but don`t notice.
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Since the door to 'disability' has been opened here, let me chip in.

1. Do we feel the mechanical shock caused by the shutter through our hands/fingers? I do and everyone I have asked to try my camera does. My assumption is that anyone not able to feel that has some 'disability' in the motion sensors in their hands. I have observed ripples on the surface of a glass of water caused by shutter action of a camera put close on the same table.

2. The above demonstrate that there is a mechanical shock caused by the shutter, so the question moves to whether it has an effect or not. Now the evidence is that it does have an effect with shots on tripod.

3. The photographer tries to hold the camera steadily, basically with the tripod as the asymptotic ideal model to approach. A completely steady pair of hands that mimics the tripod perfectly will also get blurred photos.

4. Some people never get blurred photos. Their holding cannot be as steady as a tripod, perhaps an odd/mild form of Parkinsons or related 'ability' that perfectly counterbalances shutter shock.

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tt321 said:
Paulmorgan said:
photofan1986 said:
One of the worst shutter shock I can get with my E-M5.

OMD with HLD-6 horizontal grip, sturdy Manfrotto tripod, lens: Olympus 40-150R.

Both are shot at 1/320, so in some cases shutter shock can be a problem even with much faster shutter speeds.

Both were shot with IS off, 2 sec timer, but first is without anti-shock, the second is with anti-shock 1/8s.

Those are 100% center crops.

80b6b55bae2b4bb9beb8ba2d06b752d5.jpg

3698719f45424ffeb8474ed4b5e0b0d9.jpg

Hand held, results are better, but there is still some slight blur, reducing resolution drastically.

The problem with shutter shock is that sometimes, as here, it's obvious, but most of the time, it's more subtle, and less regarding people don't notice it. They just don't realize that their pics could be much sharper with the same lens.

That's one extreme example. My other lenses don't show it in this proportion. Since I purchased the grip, I get almost no shutter shock with the 45 1.8, as well as other lenses. The 40-150 is the most stubborn, and if I want to get tack sharp pictures, I have to use anti-shock.
Click to expand...
OMD with HLD-6 horizontal grip, sturdy Manfrotto tripod, lens: Olympus 40-150R.

This is about the only time I might expect to see SS, with a cameras mounted to a tripod and using longer lenses, and this is the whole idea behind setting the delay.

Hand held SS should not be a problem for most of us, anti shock delay helps those disabled enough who have problems but your talking total nonsense by claiming we all get it, but don`t notice.
Click to expand...
Since the door to 'disability' has been opened here, let me chip in.

1. Do we feel the mechanical shock caused by the shutter through our hands/fingers? I do and everyone I have asked to try my camera does. My assumption is that anyone not able to feel that has some 'disability' in the motion sensors in their hands. I have observed ripples on the surface of a glass of water caused by shutter action of a camera put close on the same table.

2. The above demonstrate that there is a mechanical shock caused by the shutter, so the question moves to whether it has an effect or not. Now the evidence is that it does have an effect with shots on tripod.

3. The photographer tries to hold the camera steadily, basically with the tripod as the asymptotic ideal model to approach. A completely steady pair of hands that mimics the tripod perfectly will also get blurred photos.

4. Some people never get blurred photos. Their holding cannot be as steady as a tripod, perhaps an odd/mild form of Parkinsons or related 'ability' that perfectly counterbalances shutter shock.

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4. Some people never get blurred photos. Their holding cannot be as steady as a tripod, perhaps an odd/mild form of Parkinsons or related 'ability' that perfectly counterbalances shutter shock.

I work with people suffering from Parkinsons, you really have no idea have you.
 
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