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V3 ???
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No! But a pro can still make the camera shine!
WCguy
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It is if you are a pro and own it. :-D WC
Billstek
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There are no professional cameras... just professional photographers. A good, "professional" camera can help the photographer attain professional results, however.
JacquesC
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Nikon certainly believes that professional photographers will want it next to their DSLR's, that is how they pitched it in their initial announcement.
IVN
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No.
VertigonA380
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With 20fps C-AF and more fixed, with the bulk of shots being published on the web, you could easily make it a pro camera. At the very least it is a modular and flexible camera. With the FT-1 inlcuded in the now cheaper kit bundle, it's looking alot better. Crop factor another plus for long shots.
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The camera isn't but the price is "Pro"
nunatak
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pro and con. 
VertigonA380
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So what camera does 20fps c-af or 60 fixed, with a crop factor of 2.7 and allows for f-mount? If you need these features and don't print big, why can't it be a pro camera? People pay for the images, they don't refuse payment because they don't like your camera model.
I beg to differ. There are still loads of idiots out there see gear as being how good you are as a professional. There are still tons of idiots think huge lenses means quality.
There are still tons of people think buying a "pro" DSLR would make them into a better photographer.
Aspenz
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To me it feels like a camera targeted at pro enthusiasts.. so somewhere below professional use. Then again, there might already be people selling prints with it.
Thom Hogan made an interesting observation here last August:
"I don't understand, for example, why every sports shooter doesn't have a V2 in their bag. 60 fps and silent, folks. Want to capture Tiger's swing? The full over-the-bar sequence of a high jump? The exact moment the football was fumbled? The moment the ball comes off the bat? There's a camera that can do all that. It's called a Nikon 1. Sure, it's a situational camera with a few nuances you need to adjust too, but it's a tool every pro should have. Nikon should have given a free camera, lens set, and adapter to a wide range of working pros and begged for some over-the-top shot results."
Interesting to note that one of the publicity photos for the V3 was an over-the-bar shot of a high jump.
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"I don't understand, for example, why every sports shooter doesn't have a V2 in their bag. 60 fps and silent, folks. Want to capture Tiger's swing? The full over-the-bar sequence of a high jump? The exact moment the football was fumbled? The moment the ball comes off the bat? There's a camera that can do all that. It's called a Nikon 1. Sure, it's a situational camera with a few nuances you need to adjust too, but it's a tool every pro should have. Nikon should have given a free camera, lens set, and adapter to a wide range of working pros and begged for some over-the-top shot results."
Interesting to note that one of the publicity photos for the V3 was an over-the-bar shot of a high jump.
VertigonA380
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Thing is I am not an idiot. An idiot is someone who talks about things with authority like they actually understand. Intelligent people put it to the test. I have already done the test at 60fps with the V2 with a myriad of ideas, one I posted here for anyone interested:
My strawberry setup shot. Three attempts at 60fps still didn't give me the ideal shot.
You'd think at that rate it would be enough to get the ideal shot, nup.
Here is the final shot, a composite of two images, edited:
This concept went onto to create packaging design.
So like I said:
So what camera does 20fps c-af or 60 fixed, with a crop factor of 2.7 and allows for f-mount? If you need these features and don't print big, why can't it be a pro camera? People pay for the images, they don't refuse payment because they don't like your camera model.
20fps is quick, still by no means will it capture every shot you can imagine. However in the right application it could recoup its cost in a day. Really.
Don't take in personally! Not calling you an idiot nor implying that you are. Was just speaking in general terms.Thing is I am not an idiot. An idiot is someone who talks about things with authority like they actually understand. Intelligent people put it to the test. I have already done the test at 60fps with the V2 with a myriad of ideas, one I posted here for anyone interested:
My strawberry setup shot. Three attempts at 60fps still didn't give me the ideal shot.
You'd think at that rate it would be enough to get the ideal shot, nup.
Here is the final shot, a composite of two images, edited:
This concept went onto to create packaging design.
So like I said:
So what camera does 20fps c-af or 60 fixed, with a crop factor of 2.7 and allows for f-mount? If you need these features and don't print big, why can't it be a pro camera? People pay for the images, they don't refuse payment because they don't like your camera model.
20fps is quick, still by no means will it capture every shot you can imagine. However in the right application it could recoup its cost in a day. Really.
For me, I wouldn't especially label any camera as a "pro" camera, although cameras such as D4 would classify as pro camera in most people's view. However, in the wrong hands, a D4 is not much different than a D3000.
pwilly
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Great concept, vision and result. That is what makes a pro, a pro.Thing is I am not an idiot. An idiot is someone who talks about things with authority like they actually understand. Intelligent people put it to the test. I have already done the test at 60fps with the V2 with a myriad of ideas, one I posted here for anyone interested:
My strawberry setup shot. Three attempts at 60fps still didn't give me the ideal shot.
You'd think at that rate it would be enough to get the ideal shot, nup.
Here is the final shot, a composite of two images, edited:
This concept went onto to create packaging design.
So like I said:
So what camera does 20fps c-af or 60 fixed, with a crop factor of 2.7 and allows for f-mount? If you need these features and don't print big, why can't it be a pro camera? People pay for the images, they don't refuse payment because they don't like your camera model.
20fps is quick, still by no means will it capture every shot you can imagine. However in the right application it could recoup its cost in a day. Really.
NOT the camera.
Vertigon, you showed all 3 in your shots, nice.
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VertigonA380
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Most people would classify a professional camera as a camera that can not only earn you money but one that also has the features to enable and facilitate the images clients are prepared to pay for. The V3 obviously don't have all the features but it does have some strong points that could make you money and enable you to capture images clients will pay for. Like sporting events for example. Have you ever tries say to capture a soccer or football game where the ball is leaving the players foot, him in action with his eyes open, looking right at the goal?
Trying giving that shot to a client with the players eyes closed, as soon as they see another with the players eyes open, your shot is a non contender. Or even with the player about to kick the ball as opposed to actually kicking the ball. Or perhaps a baseball player having hit the ball, with the bat recoiling in an arc as opposed to a batter just prior to contact with the ball. It doesn't take much for your shot to be a non contender even though you yourself might be impressed with it.
So you see things like frame rates, face detection, wi-fi and whatever else can make the difference between a sale and a non sale.
Say your covering a watersport, what choices do you have? Either shoot from the shore or get in the water with the camera, with all the clumsiness and restriction that implies. Once again the 2.7 crop factor with a good long lens could make all the difference between a sale and $0.
This is why some people count every dime when they look at the price tag and others think about what shots they could get and the cost of those they missed before. Like I said before, if it's the right application and you don't have to print big, the V3 has the potential to be a professional camera.
Trying giving that shot to a client with the players eyes closed, as soon as they see another with the players eyes open, your shot is a non contender. Or even with the player about to kick the ball as opposed to actually kicking the ball. Or perhaps a baseball player having hit the ball, with the bat recoiling in an arc as opposed to a batter just prior to contact with the ball. It doesn't take much for your shot to be a non contender even though you yourself might be impressed with it.
So you see things like frame rates, face detection, wi-fi and whatever else can make the difference between a sale and a non sale.
Say your covering a watersport, what choices do you have? Either shoot from the shore or get in the water with the camera, with all the clumsiness and restriction that implies. Once again the 2.7 crop factor with a good long lens could make all the difference between a sale and $0.
This is why some people count every dime when they look at the price tag and others think about what shots they could get and the cost of those they missed before. Like I said before, if it's the right application and you don't have to print big, the V3 has the potential to be a professional camera.
VertigonA380
Senior Member
Thanks for your encouraging words Paul. This shot took a bit of time to setup and I had 3 attempts at it with countless frames at the end. The V2 did get a little warm but sure didn't fail. The final image was a composite of mixed berries with the milk flowing down the edges of the container, it was for a small company and they were ecstatic with the results. Here is another shot of the setup:
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