The WEIGHT is Killing Me! ...Any Suggestions???

Yeah, the Fuji X-T1 is on my consider list as well -- I hear the viewfinder is really large. The difference in size, weight between the Fuji and D700 is incredible.
I've carefully studies a whole wedding's worth of files from the X Pro1 (basically same sensor as new XT1) and compared them with files from my D700s and I'm struggling to say which one is better in terms of image quality. I'd call it a draw.
 
I am a Canadian living in Paris and with all of the tourist who get robbed,
...and I am a Swede who have lived in Paris for three years, been there as tourist many times before and after and never really experienced anything of that kind except one attempted pick-pocket in 1982... We seem to have different experience. I have never been scared to walk around in Paris or to take any public transport, but of course, I avoid some places and areas and I don't behave like an idiot or walk around looking like a Christmas three with more money in my pocket than brains in my head. In my opinion, there are worse places than Paris and Paris in my opinion improved a lot compared to the Paris I knew from the 1980's.

No need to scare people with this. Paris is definitely not worse than any other city in USA or Canada. People get robbed now and then, regardless where you are. Paris is not really the wild west.
+1

I'm French and went many times to Paris because of girlfriend ;-) and used to walk with my D300 or D700 without problem during 3 years. Just do not let your equipment on a table sidewalk cafe !
 
I'm also 62 and most of the time use 2 bodies D600 with Nikon 24-70 and D7100 with 70-200VR II. I use this:


for even wight distribution. It's comfortable way to carry two cameras with lenses without much of fatigue.
 
"No reason to haul a bunch of heavy crap that you really don't need."

So true. It's getting to the point of realistically looking at your kit and making that call that's the problem. It boggles my mind what some here think they "need" on a vacation.

I've said it before, D5200/D5300 and a Nikon 16-85 VR or Sigma 17-70, maybe a Sigma 10-20 for churches. And a competent point and shoot as a backup. No strobes, no tripods, no primes.
Then why have a D800 at all?
That is indeed the dilemma.
If photography is a chore, then yes, lugging around a large camera and lenses may be a pain, but if that is your hobby and you are striving for the best, then it shouldn't be a chore, but a pleasure.
I bring/use a D800E because it has top tier IQ at 36 MP. It is definitely not too heavy for me as a travel camera as long as I am sane and practical about the lenses and other gear I bring. For me, I find that "sane and practical" means that I really only need a 24-120 lens. I have often packed a 50mm f/1.8 lens "too be on the safe side" for low light situations. But you know what? It never gets used. I have on occasion packed my 70-200. Know what? It gets used for 1 or 2 shots.

You read posts similar to the OP all the time here on DPR. People that want their cake and eat it too. They want to bring their best camera, cover every lens situation, be prepared for low light, bring a tripod, etc. etc.

All some of us are saying is get smart about your travel kit and think hard about what you will really use vs. what's a nice to have. For some a D4 may be a requirement, for others it may be a D5300, for others maybe a small mirrorless camera.
 
I'll be 62,this June and we travel with this setup every year for more than 5 years. Of course, one would have to be physically fit. Yoga and daily walks, helps. The key is, being able to capture images quicky without stopping to change lenses.
 
I recomend you take a look at one of the Fujifilm X system cameras. The XF lenses are also fantastic too.

You can get a full fuji system (body + 3 lenses, say), for about the same weight as the 80-400mm alone. Although I have a D800, often I shoot instead with an X-E1, particularly when I need to travel light or when a DSLR is just too much camera. The IQ difference in prints is barely noticeable unless you crop heavily, print larger than A3, or shoot a lot at high ISO.

Mirrorless cameras are squarely aimed at the problem you are trying to solve.

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I am a Canadian living in Paris and with all of the tourist who get robbed, I would strongly suggest getting a Nikon 3300 and a simple yet effective zoom like Tamron 18-270 or Sigma 18-250 lens and that is it. Believe me you will be glad you left all of the other stuff behind. When I travel I use a Tamron 18-250 and in most cases it is perfect. You might want to get a cheap standard 50mm f 1.8 G lens for low light stuff and depth of field and that is it.
For me the problem with that suggestion is that I don't think it has mirror lockup or shutter delay with lockup. Nikon has failed to offer it in entry level bodies where as Canon does if you are going to change to a lighter DSLR.
 
Good point if that were all the concerns were. A quote from the OP "However, sharpness, detail and dynamic range are a HUGE factors to me" I assume he's considering more than what you just mentioned.
If I had been shamefully rich, I would have looked at a Leica M. The Ms have limitations when it comes to low light and dynamic range, but there is no problem with sharpness and details, once you master the manual focus. At least that is what I hear.
 
We travelled recently for 3 weeks through South Korea and Japan. The D800 had to stay home, as with some lenses that would have been too much. Instead my wife had the Olympus OMD-EM5 and I used an Olympus E-P5. So:

- We could share lenses, batteries, chargers and chips

- One camera could be backup for the other with little loss of versatility.

- The E-P5 with a pan-cake was pocketable and served well for those strolls at night and when you do not want to struggle with bulky and obtrusive gear when going for dinner or a drink in a crowded place.

- The E-P5 has WiFi, mostly used for sending something home via Phone/Pad and that could be used for geo-tracking.

Together with the relatively compact and light lenses for this format, all was fitted in a Lowepro Passport Sling, together with hat, pullover, sun-glasses and a few other day trip paraphernalia. That proved to be particularly useful for all those times when we had only access to a limited amount of hand-luggage.

All in all a very versatile and "secure" combination with backup, that sacrificed very little, considering that the aim of the trip was not to produce professional photographs to be printed 3m wide. Very useful proved to be also my walking stick, able to double as a Monopod (Camlink CMP1 ).

Some of the pictures from this trip I placed here .
 
If you're a true photographer you'll put the extra effort in. :-)
If you're a true photographer you don't take heavy gear just for the sake of it!
I didn't say that. All the way through any of these "what gear should I take/" type threads, I always advocate taking gear suitable for the places that you are going to. What I have also been saying, take the best gear you have when possible as that is the reason for having it.
 
"No reason to haul a bunch of heavy crap that you really don't need."

So true. It's getting to the point of realistically looking at your kit and making that call that's the problem. It boggles my mind what some here think they "need" on a vacation.

I've said it before, D5200/D5300 and a Nikon 16-85 VR or Sigma 17-70, maybe a Sigma 10-20 for churches. And a competent point and shoot as a backup. No strobes, no tripods, no primes.
Then why have a D800 at all?
That is indeed the dilemma.
If photography is a chore, then yes, lugging around a large camera and lenses may be a pain, but if that is your hobby and you are striving for the best, then it shouldn't be a chore, but a pleasure.
I bring/use a D800E because it has top tier IQ at 36 MP. It is definitely not too heavy for me as a travel camera as long as I am sane and practical about the lenses and other gear I bring. For me, I find that "sane and practical" means that I really only need a 24-120 lens. I have often packed a 50mm f/1.8 lens "too be on the safe side" for low light situations. But you know what? It never gets used. I have on occasion packed my 70-200. Know what? It gets used for 1 or 2 shots.
That's pretty much me as well! :-)
You read posts similar to the OP all the time here on DPR. People that want their cake and eat it too. They want to bring their best camera, cover every lens situation, be prepared for low light, bring a tripod, etc. etc.

All some of us are saying is get smart about your travel kit and think hard about what you will really use vs. what's a nice to have. For some a D4 may be a requirement, for others it may be a D5300, for others maybe a small mirrorless camera.
Exactly!
 
I am a Canadian living in Paris and with all of the tourist who get robbed,
...and I am a Swede who have lived in Paris for three years, been there as tourist many times before and after and never really experienced anything of that kind except one attempted pick-pocket in 1982... We seem to have different experience. I have never been scared to walk around in Paris or to take any public transport, but of course, I avoid some places and areas and I don't behave like an idiot or walk around looking like a Christmas three with more money in my pocket than brains in my head. In my opinion, there are worse places than Paris and Paris in my opinion improved a lot compared to the Paris I knew from the 1980's.

No need to scare people with this. Paris is definitely not worse than any other city in USA or Canada. People get robbed now and then, regardless where you are. Paris is not really the wild west.
+1

I'm French and went many times to Paris because of girlfriend ;-) and used to walk with my D300 or D700 without problem during 3 years. Just do not let your equipment on a table sidewalk cafe !
Exactly my experience.
 
I'll be 62,this June and we travel with this setup every year for more than 5 years. Of course, one would have to be physically fit. Yoga and daily walks, helps. The key is, being able to capture images quicky without stopping to change lenses.
So does lifting weights. I've been lifting since I was 18. I can't imagine having an "exercise program" without actually lifting. Yeah, cardio, stretching, core work are all part of it. Walking gets you from one place to another, hiking steep trails gets you stronger and fitter (or stairs two at a time). Ya know, for carrying these outrageously heavy kits I keep hearing about on this thread!
 
I am a Canadian living in Paris and with all of the tourist who get robbed, I would strongly suggest getting a Nikon 3300 and a simple yet effective zoom like Tamron 18-270 or Sigma 18-250 lens and that is it. Believe me you will be glad you left all of the other stuff behind. When I travel I use a Tamron 18-250 and in most cases it is perfect. You might want to get a cheap standard 50mm f 1.8 G lens for low light stuff and depth of field and that is it.
Best advice yet on this thread. The problem is, FF shooters for the most part can't conceive of a DX camera taking good shots, it just has to be something like a D800.
I disagree. The OP already has a DX camera as well, so why should he buy yet another DX body? The risks for getting robbed is not as great as he says.
Wow, living in Paris. What's that like? Open ended question, for sure, you can keep it to 25 words or less!
It's great if you like France and accept the fact that the majority of the people are French, not American. It's a living hell if you hate the French... :-)

That is in 29 words. Sorry about that.
The advice about carrying a small but competent DX camera with some zoom, short or long, ya know, the one lens solution that isn't just some bogus prime. If the OP has a D7100, why in heck isn't he considering just that camera body and a 16-85 VR (for instance)? What's with the ridiculous heavy zoom? That's his only choice?

I've been to France. Me and my girlfriend at the time hung out in Paris for about a week. I'd love to do that for about a month now. In the springtime. I didn't form an opinion about the French when I was there.
 
I am 62 years old and I'm headed to Europe in 5 weeks. So over the past year I purchased just a couple of items...

D800e + Sigma 35mm f/1.4 + 70-200mm f/4 (for general photography)

D7100 + 80-400mm (because I love sharp superzooms with great IQ)

And the weight of carrying even half of these items for long walks is scaring my to death.

However, sharpness, detail and dynamic range are a HUGE factors to me. So much so that I owned the new 24-120mm f/4 and sent it back.

Do I just say "screw it" Bob, you are getting too old to carry this type of equipment, and go to cheap point and shoots?

What the heck do I do?

I've got at least $10k (so far) into this stuff and fear I'll never get much use out of any of it.

I wish there was a rolling camera cart that I could push around town like a speed cart is to a golfer, or a baby cart is to a new mother. But nobody I know of makes one.

Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks So Much for Your Help in Advance!!!

Bob, from Ohio
I am 53 and weigh 75kg and have been to Europe/UK 4 times. My number one hobby is photography and I enjoy using the best that I have so I take my best camera when I can and the lenses that will give me the best IQ and a balance of speed of use and limit the need of swapping out lenses. I did outline what I took on my recent trip in an earlier post but I just wanted to add to that post. Here is my take:

On my first trip in 2006 I took my Pentax DSLR, an *istD, which is an APS C (Dx) sized camera and a number of Pentax lenses, like the 16-45 f4, (24-70 f4 equivalent for Fx), DA14 f2.8 (21 f2.8 Fx equivalent), and a 135 f2.8 (200mm f2.8 Fx equivalent). Mainly used the 16-45 f4 and the 14 a few times.

On my second trip in 2010, I took my Nikon D700 and the 16-35 f4 VR, 24-70 f2.8 and the 70-200 f2.8 VRII, 1.4x TCII, 2x TCIII. Used the 16-35 60% of the time and the 24-70 35% of the time and the 70-200 f2.8 and TC for the rest of the time, but I only used the 70-200 and TC's due to the fact that we went to a wildlife sanctuary in the UK one day otherwise, I would have only used it maybe a few other times.

Moving to the larger and heavier Nikon kit over the Pentax kit was not really all that noticeable to me.

On my 3rd trip in 2011 (cruise on the Med), I took the same kit as above and again, the 70-200 was only used a few times, the 16-35 60% of the time and the 24-70 for the other 40%.

On my 4th trip last year, I took the D800E, 16-35 f4 VR, 24-70 f2.8, 80-400 f4.5-5.6G and the Sigma 35 f1.4. This was a more of a s specialised trip as for part of the trip we were going to the Farne Islands to shoot the Puffins and other bridlife there. Again, the break up was 16-35 f4 VR - took about 55% of my shots, 24-70 f2.8 - took about 30% of my shots, 80-400 f4.5-5.6 - took about 15% of my shots due to the fact that I went to the Farne Islands, Sigma 35 f1.4 - only took a few shots with this lens 1-2%. If I didn't go to the Farne Islands, then it would have a similar break up between the 16-35 and the 24-70 with very few taken with the longer lens.

So, if I were to go again and didn't shoot any wild life, I would probably leave the 80-400 at home as well as the 70-200. I used the 80-400 VR inside some churches simply because I needed a little more reach and wanted VR which the 24-70 doesn't have. I would then only take the 16-35, 24-70 and probably take either my new to me Zeiss 21 f2.8 or Nikon 24 f1.4. I may invest in the 24-120 f4 VR and take that instead of the 24-70 as it gives more reach and has VR which is handy inside dark buildings and at night.

So, if I go to Europe again, it would be the 16-35 f4 VR, possibly a 24-120 f4 VR and either my Zeiss 21 f2.8 or my Nikon 24 f1.4 for narrow DOF or more arty shots.

You say you want DR, sharpness, detail and probably excellent high ISO ability due to the fact that you are in Europe and will be visiting castles, chuches/cathedrals and are inside other old and dark buildings. My advice to you is that unless you shoot wildlife don't take the 70-200 or the 80-400. Instead, just take these:

* Use a good wide to telepoto zoom, like the 24-70 which is still an excellent all round zoom. Either that, or try the 24-120 again, I am sure it's not that bad!

* Get the 16-35 f4 VR which suits this sort of trip perfectly due to the fact it has VR (for inside those dark buildings and for night shots) and has an excellent zoom range which overlaps the 24-70 perfectly, is really excellent from 20-30mm and very good from 16-20, not so strong at 30-35 but you can swap that over to the 24-70. Yes it has distortion at 16mm but that can be easily corrected post process and I have never had a shot ruined because I couldn't fix the distortion.

* Maybe take your Sigma 35 f1.4. I didn't use mine all that much unless you're into just taking street photos of people. I took mine for shallow DOF shots, but didn't use it all that much for that sort of thing.

If you do take just the two or three lenses, then take a small backpack for your other gear and other personal items and maybe put a Lowepro lens exchange (great system) case on the belt. You can then exchange your two most used lenses without having to resort to getting them out of the backpack as the lens exchange case is on the front and has two slots in it, one for the lens you are wanting to exchange to and the other for the lens you are exchanging from:

http://store.lowepro.com/s-f-lens-exchange-case-200-aw

I used this system on my last two trips and it works a treat. I would have the 16-35 on my camera and the 24-70 in the exchange case or vice versa and then it is an easy task top swap from one to the other on the go.

With any of the kits I used above, I could walk all day with no issue. In fact, in 2010, we walked all day round London doing about 20kms (a friend had a pedometer on) and I had the following in my Lowepro Flipside 400, D700, 16-35, 24-70, 70-200, 1.4x TC, 2x TC. :-)

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Hi Bob. I have 10 years on you and with age come arthritis, muscle aches and pains ... and yet the desire to do the best possible record of daily shoting and especially travel.

. Heavier option 1. I have taken D7000 and 28-300 VR combo and Tokina 11-16 in a relatively small bag to Italy.


. Heavier option 2. I took D800e and 28-300 VR combo and Tokina 11-16 to Paris


. Lighter Option. On another trip to Rome and at a Toronto Italian Festival I took Fuji X10 only



Depends on quality and crop-ability you want.

Hope this helps!
 
I'm your age, have a bad back and carry more gear than that. I've found that if you tough it out, your body gets used to it. This past summer I took a tripod and everything on my gear list (except my Sigma) to Kauai and by the end of the trip it was not a bother. Of course, up to that point there were some painful moments... If you want to work up to it, you could start carrying around everywhere just your camera bag for about a month before the trip. Add a rolled up magazine to it each day or so with the goal of bring it up by the end of the month to the weight of the gear you'll take with you.
 
I just got back from Hawaii several weeks ago. I carried my d4, Nikon 20mm, Zeiss 25mm, Nikon 50mm f1.2 and my Nikon 70-200 f4.0 lens in a Domke Bag. I am 69. I still carry my Nikon d4 mounted on a tripod with my Nikon 500mm f4.0 vr lens for sometimes several miles in my bird photography.

I fell about three years ago about 15' injuring my back and had a compression fracture in one vertibra and a chip out of another. I have found that if I keep active with lots of walking and working on small construction projects that it helps me out a lot.

For me personally keeping very active helps prolong the aging process.

For me if I travel I want the best equipment I have along with me to record the environment around me whether its the landscape, buildings, wildlife or whatever.

Larry
 

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