Best current camera phone, period

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Awesome product, if you like photography this is the phone to buy.

OS : Was worried because it runs on Windows Phone 8 (Amber version) but honestly I like it better than my iPhone iOS6/7, faster, sleeker, can reach all apps with my thumb quickly. Like the tiles, not so configurable as Android but better than iOS. Very happy with it.

Apps : Most apps out there, any OS, are basically junk. So when you read reviews saying this OS has only 400K apps while that OS has 1000K, it really makes no difference. This Nokia comes with lots of good apps already build in. Been using it for 5 months and didn't buy a single app ! Music player could be better, but Nokia's Radio Mix is great. Shazam, FM radio, it's all there. Photo and video editing, WhatsApp, Viber, Twitter and built in updated Skype awesome.

Camera : Simply the best current one. Xenon flash is not as powerful as a good point and shoot camera, also you have to adjust the white balance manually so don't end up with yellow tones but hey you can actually manually set the white balance, ISO, shutter speed, exposure bias and focus, even infinity focus which I can't do with my other proper cameras ! Image quality is almost excellent. Only cons are dynamic range (tendency to clip the whites), have to be careful with exposure in high contrast scenes, and average focus sharpness, lens are fast and fixed aperture so having a good DOF with sharp images from the front to the back is quite difficult, 100% crops put it in evidence. However, my HS20 and HS50EXR are not that sharp either plus they have more processing artifacts in their JPEGs than this phone which is pretty amassing for a phone. I'm using my phone more than my proper cameras now, the camera grip accessory delivers extra battery, secure grip and standard tripod thread plus it's easy to remove. Ability to crop and re-crop your his-res 36/38MP images into 5MP oversampled ones is really useful. Lens is really fast, good news for low light photos, again better than HS50 for that too, but can produce lots of flare against direct strong lights, also can show a bright spot anomaly in some cases. Were is not so good is for macros, HS50/20 give better pictures and can focus really close, but this phone allows to crop a 36MP photo so if there is plenty of light you should have no problems with macros. Built in camera apps have been more than enough for all my photos and still exploring them, many options, some are very creative.

Check my gallery I have an album for Nokia1020 photos with examples of flares, 'bright sphere anomaly', macros, panoramas which are the best in class putting P&S cams panoramas to shame.

This is the camera that is with me all the time, excellent for social events photos, very good for landscapes, good for macros. Not so good for sports it's too slow for that, although it can be do with Nokia Smart Camera app but is a hit and miss thing with the long shot to shot times. Videos are awesome with excellent sound quality and good stabilization.

iPhone 4S and 5 photos are a joke compared to what this Lumia can do, just go for it if you like photography.

I give it 4.5 stars just for it's slow shot-to-shot specs, hope the next version comes with a quad-core processor that fixes that.
 
Needs a zoom lens that starts at 24mm, a tripod mount, and high-speed video and it could almost replace my 3-year-old pocket compact.
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Lee Jay
 
You should be posting this on the Connect site, not on DPR
 
Needs a zoom lens that starts at 24mm, a tripod mount, and high-speed video and it could almost replace my 3-year-old pocket compact.
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Lee Jay
It amazes me how anybody can be so crazy over such a limited system.
 
Posting it here is just fine, this is the Mobile (Phone) photography forum... and yes of the current smartphone the 1020 rulz, the 808 has the edge (slightly) over it but the 808 isn't a 'current' smartphone. I had the 808 and the IQ was indeed spectacular, way better than any other smartphone and better than my P&S at the time. The lossless optical zoom worked great too.

Easily the best camera phone for IQ, still prefer Android OS though, iOS is too 'controlling' and the lack of customization (making the home-screens look the way I way frustrated the hell outta me) and widgets is a big miss on iOS.

Enjoy the 1020 it sounds great!
 
Someone moved this here. It was in Open Talk.
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Lee Jay
 
Oh so many times have I written this...

1020 has the best app in controling the camera. And OS is handy.

But,

Try shooting multiple shots and it's to slow writting these big files.

8mp pureview files are way superior than 1020's 5mp.

No ND filter in 1020.

Worse edge distortion in 1020.

Last but not least, you are comparing a 2013 phone carrying a good 1/1.5'' sensor, to these 3/2 years old average superzooms, with 1/2.3'' crapy sensors.

EXR mode (of the past) is a joke compared to Pureview technology.

Sony Z1, Nexus 5, LG G2, iphone 5/s, S4, Nokia 808, even lumia 920/925 have better IQ than HS20/50...

I was ready to buy the 1020 for only 350 euros in Greece, but the handling/ergonomics was awful for my little hands.
 
You should be posting this on the Connect site, not on DPR
I added the 1020 in my Gear list then the system asked if I wanted to write a review, clicked on that and there you have it.

If it's in the wrong site maybe you should tell that to the person responsible for writing this webpage.
 
Needs a zoom lens that starts at 24mm, a tripod mount, and high-speed video and it could almost replace my 3-year-old pocket compact.
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Lee Jay
Hi Jay,

1020 digital zoom works quite well in good light.

24mm oh well you are right about that, some times I miss it but Nokia Panorama works quite well, taking pictures in 16:9 format is also good, and distortion is not as bad as 24mm.

Tripod mount, not a problem, If you read my review I've got the extra battery case camera grip and guess what it does come with a standard tripod mount !

High speed video, you are right, I'll have to use my HS50 for that if I ever need it.

Does you 3 year old camera takes good pictures in low light ? I bet it doesn't if it has a tinny 1/2.3 or 1/2 sensor.

Plus, it probably doesn't let you share your pictures instantly or make phone calls or have offline GPS flawless navigation, among other nice things ;-)
 
This "is" a Connect Forum. DPR mirrors it over here/there.

IOW, post it here or post it there, it'll appear in DPR and Connect Forums.
 
Does you 3 year old camera takes good pictures in low light ? I bet it doesn't if it has a tinny 1/2.3 or 1/2 sensor.
Yes. It has a BSI sensor, outstanding in-camera processing, an f/2 lens at the wide end, amazing optical image stabilization, and ergonomics compatible with holding it steady. I can easily handhold it at 0.5s at the wide end (and 1/10th at the long end), and 0.5s, ISO 1600, f/2 is an exposure for a very dark scene.
Plus, it probably doesn't let you share your pictures instantly or make phone calls or have offline GPS flawless navigation, among other nice things ;-)
I would never share photos instantly, and I carry my Galaxy S3 in the same pocket for other stuff.
 
Does you 3 year old camera takes good pictures in low light ? I bet it doesn't if it has a tinny 1/2.3 or 1/2 sensor.
Yes. It has a BSI sensor, outstanding in-camera processing, an f/2 lens at the wide end, amazing optical image stabilization, and ergonomics compatible with holding it steady. I can easily handhold it at 0.5s at the wide end (and 1/10th at the long end), and 0.5s, ISO 1600, f/2 is an exposure for a very dark scene.
Is it the Fuji X10 or 20 ? Or similar enthusiast ?

You can also easily handheld the Nokia 1020 for long exposures, it's OIS is superb, check this example handheld at 2s (not a mistake 2 seconds really), ISO 100 f2.2 :


Not bad at all for a phone right ? And this photo is just a crop ! was shot from a long distance.

Plus, it probably doesn't let you share your pictures instantly or make phone calls or have offline GPS flawless navigation, among other nice things ;-)
I would never share photos instantly, and I carry my Galaxy S3 in the same pocket for other stuff.

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I use to think exactly this way but now I find myself doing it more than I thought off ;-)

If you ever need to switch your Galaxy give this Nokia a try, or better wait for the next version (maybe with 4 cores will have shorter shutter times). I used it all, Symbian Belle, iOS6/7, Android and was really surprised by Windows Phone 8 (Amber), contrary to my expectations I admit.

Cheers.
 
Does you 3 year old camera takes good pictures in low light ? I bet it doesn't if it has a tinny 1/2.3 or 1/2 sensor.
Yes. It has a BSI sensor, outstanding in-camera processing, an f/2 lens at the wide end, amazing optical image stabilization, and ergonomics compatible with holding it steady. I can easily handhold it at 0.5s at the wide end (and 1/10th at the long end), and 0.5s, ISO 1600, f/2 is an exposure for a very dark scene.
Is it the Fuji X10 or 20 ? Or similar enthusiast ?

You can also easily handheld the Nokia 1020 for long exposures, it's OIS is superb, check this example handheld at 2s (not a mistake 2 seconds really), ISO 100 f2.2 :


Not bad at all for a phone right ? And this photo is just a crop ! was shot from a long distance.

Plus, it probably doesn't let you share your pictures instantly or make phone calls or have offline GPS flawless navigation, among other nice things ;-)
I would never share photos instantly, and I carry my Galaxy S3 in the same pocket for other stuff.
 
Here's a shot taken at 4-stops slower than the 1/f rule, handheld with one hand, above my head without support, shown at full-size and with detail on the ground. Look at the windows and the clock to determine sharpness.



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Lee Jay
 
Thats why God created the app store. I have 12 camera apps loaded on my 4s, all unique in one way or another, most BETTER than the one Apple gave me. Its so easy to replace the manufacturers choice of camera with iphone If you want to.
 
This "is" a Connect Forum. DPR mirrors it over here/there.

IOW, post it here or post it there, it'll appear in DPR and Connect Forums.
Agree. Moreover, the reviewer only wrote about digital photography with that device. I should think that anyone who loves photography but also does not dislike phone-cam combinations will welcome such a review. In any case, the line between dedicated cameras and phonecams are becoming narrower by the day, at least for the masses.

With kindest regards.
 
You Disney Castle picture is just awesome and yes lots of detail from the building but you can't compare oranges and apples. Your ground subject was as illuminated as the fireworks, also your exposure time was 0.4sec, there is a huge difference between 0.4sec and 2.0 seconds in hand held photography, specially with small sensors. I don't see any significant difference in "detail" from the fireworks when comparing my picture with yours, remember that mine is already an almost 100% crop of the original, so when yours is cropped details are as good as with the phone IMHO.

Do you have any example with 2 seconds hand held with the same pocket camera ?

Technicalities aside the most important thing is no matter what equipment your are using your photo looks really good.
 
You Disney Castle picture is just awesome and yes lots of detail from the building but you can't compare oranges and apples. Your ground subject was as illuminated as the fireworks, also your exposure time was 0.4sec, there is a huge difference between 0.4sec and 2.0 seconds in hand held photography, specially with small sensors. I don't see any significant difference in "detail" from the fireworks when comparing my picture with yours, remember that mine is already an almost 100% crop of the original, so when yours is cropped details are as good as with the phone IMHO.
I showed the entire image, at the full-resolution.
Do you have any example with 2 seconds hand held with the same pocket camera ?
No, my pocket camera doesn't even go that slow. I do have that with my SLR. But your fireworks shot doesn't show a lack of motion blur at 2 seconds, since the subjects you were shooting were smeared anyway. I have shot 15 seconds hand-held with my SLR for fireworks and they look great as long as there are no ground subjects in the frame.
Technicalities aside the most important thing is no matter what equipment your are using your photo looks really good.
Thanks. At the same time, I took several shots with my SLR that no camera phone could possibly come anywhere near taking.
 

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