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awaldram said:
Just a thought

Seems a very easy function to implement and increases the sales value of the product.

You could have proper interval - delay and a whole raft of count down, schedule etc firing.

In addition you could utilize the aperture and shutter controls to give wide range bracketing capabilities

All of this is currently available within the hardware but is not leveraged from the software (browser)

so hoping they develop the product add a cifs/ftp/webdav or nfs service and you have potentially one of the best 'tether' products on the market.

Rather than the 'its OK' we have today.
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The implementation does seem very basic. It's really not much beyond the tethering that the original istD had. They have added wireless and liveview to something that they were doing a decade ago.
 

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Russell Evans said:
mbanas said:
Sadly, that's not a valid address from anything but the referring page (which is the image browser page). Like I said, I'm not the guy for this job, but I tried!
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Thanks for the effort. The http://pentax/ should be the same as http://192.168.1.1/. Maybe something like Downloadthemall for Firefox would be workable?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/downthemall/
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This got me thinking about libcurl and the "curl" command in Unix from my (way, way back) SGI days.

I'm dusting off the old man pages tonight and gonna get me some automatic, sequential downloads from the O-FC1 if it kills me (or causes insomnia)!
 
Well having played with this some more I still think it is a pile of rats droppings.

It goes back tomorrow.

If it matures in 6 months or a year I will have another look.
 
mbanas said:
Russell Evans said:
mbanas said:
Sadly, that's not a valid address from anything but the referring page (which is the image browser page). Like I said, I'm not the guy for this job, but I tried!
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Thanks for the effort. The http://pentax/ should be the same as http://192.168.1.1/. Maybe something like Downloadthemall for Firefox would be workable?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/downthemall/
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This got me thinking about libcurl and the "curl" command in Unix from my (way, way back) SGI days.

I'm dusting off the old man pages tonight and gonna get me some automatic, sequential downloads from the O-FC1 if it kills me (or causes insomnia)!
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Something like ?

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192.168.1.1
 
mbanas said:
Russell Evans said:
awaldram said:
Yes but only 1 at a time and then only the size you elected to put on the flu card.
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I don't know if the FLU card is using webDAV, but it might be worth trying to mapping a network folder to the Flu card with WebDAV. I think LR could then monitor the folder and pull in the files to the tablet/laptop storage for you.

Thank you
Russell
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Oooh, if this was possible, then even raw files and video files could be pulled over too! Right now, because the entire UI for the Pentax FluCard is through a "standard" web browser, it can only show JPEG files (browsers can't interpret raw files). This is a double-edged sword, since it does mean transfers are measured in seconds, not minutes (K-3 raw files can be 45mb!), but it also means that while you are "downloading" the JPEG it is doing it like a browser window would with a really big file somewhere on the interwebs... that window can't do anything else!
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This may be off-topic, but it may be of interest:

I've just been experimenting with DNG to slot 1 and JPEG to slot 2. Then with a normal card in slot 1 and a Flucard in slot 2 I get tethering for live-viewing and shooting and downloading and viewing of JPEGs. Leaving the DNG downloading and processing until after the shoot.
 
AutoHoykey and a little scripting should allow you to create a few options until better things come. Since everything is unencrypted http, I would imagine it won't take long before all the traffic is captured and were know how the commands that are being sent and can then have people writing their own interfaces for the thing. A LR plugin that can also pull in the raw/jpg photos seems possible are well, and I bet there will be people willing to pay for such.

Thank you
Russell
 
awaldram said:
mbanas said:
Russell Evans said:
mbanas said:
Sadly, that's not a valid address from anything but the referring page (which is the image browser page). Like I said, I'm not the guy for this job, but I tried!
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Thanks for the effort. The http://pentax/ should be the same as http://192.168.1.1/. Maybe something like Downloadthemall for Firefox would be workable?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/downthemall/
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This got me thinking about libcurl and the "curl" command in Unix from my (way, way back) SGI days.

I'm dusting off the old man pages tonight and gonna get me some automatic, sequential downloads from the O-FC1 if it kills me (or causes insomnia)!
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Something like ?

http://192.168.1.1/sd/DCIM//[100-110]_[2502-2602]/IMGP[6000-6010].JPG
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Yes, exactly!

I've just tried it on my Mac (using Terminal, of all things) and it works a treat!

I managed to download all of the images (raw & JPEG) on the FluCard *while* taking photos and using live view *from the same machine!* This is great!

Not only that, but the transfer times were much faster than the usual "wait for the image to finish loading on the page" times of clicking on an image to download the full-res. I got 154 megs in well under a minute.

One glitch, though... the FluCard apparently can't make a thumbnail of any shots taken while all this transferring is going on!

So... the next step is to make a little scriptlet on the desktop to download only the raw images to a watch folder for processing! Sadly, I haven't thought of a way to script an "auto-download" of any new raw files, but then I'm not a networking or scripting geek (just a dabbler).
 
Russell Evans said:
AutoHoykey and a little scripting should allow you to create a few options until better things come. Since everything is unencrypted http, I would imagine it won't take long before all the traffic is captured and were know how the commands that are being sent and can then have people writing their own interfaces for the thing.
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Try pasting this into a new tab or browser window while connected to the FluCard:

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pentax

(The last bit "&seq=00009362" is just the timecode for when the request is sent, but the actual number doesn't matter for this to work...)

The command structure is pretty straightforward, so get out that webkit and script away!
 
Russell Evans said:
AutoHoykey and a little scripting should allow you to create a few options until better things come. Since everything is unencrypted http, I would imagine it won't take long before all the traffic is captured and were know how the commands that are being sent and can then have people writing their own interfaces for the thing. A LR plugin that can also pull in the raw/jpg photos seems possible are well, and I bet there will be people willing to pay for such.
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I'm still dithering about getting the k3 or not, since it may be usable in the Scuba housing for the K5/K7 (there's no housing specifically for the K3 and I really don't want two bodies).

If I get one I will write some powershell scripts to drive the web service - which should be fairly simple compared with the some of the other web based things I do with PowerShell.

I've got the Lightroom developers kit but I've never fired up. What do you think people would pay ?
 
This is all good. However Ricoh / Pentax should have done stuff like this before it was released. It would be possible to write an App that did all this as well . Of course if Ricoh decide to encrypt the data in future :-(

Be interesting to see what progress you guys make .

Anyway I sent mine back. I think it should not have been released with the current implementation . As I said in onther post I will look again in 6 months or more.

In the mean time I have bought the Pentax GPS unit instead :-)
 
Peter Budd said:
This is all good. However Ricoh / Pentax should have done stuff like this before it was released. It would be possible to write an App that did all this as well . Of course if Ricoh decide to encrypt the data in future :-(

Be interesting to see what progress you guys make .

Anyway I sent mine back. I think it should not have been released with the current implementation . As I said in onther post I will look again in 6 months or more.

In the mean time I have bought the Pentax GPS unit instead :-)
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Russell Evans said:
AutoHoykey and a little scripting should allow you to create a few options until better things come. Since everything is unencrypted http, I would imagine it won't take long before all the traffic is captured and were know how the commands that are being sent and can then have people writing their own interfaces for the thing. A LR plugin that can also pull in the raw/jpg photos seems possible are well, and I bet there will be people willing to pay for such.
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I'm going to try this in English.

Since everything is unencrypted http, I would imagine it won't take long before all the traffic is captured and we know how the commands are being sent. People can then write their own interfaces for the thing.

Thank you
Russell
 
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Russell Evans said:
Russell Evans said:
AutoHoykey and a little scripting should allow you to create a few options until better things come. Since everything is unencrypted http, I would imagine it won't take long before all the traffic is captured and were know how the commands that are being sent and can then have people writing their own interfaces for the thing. A LR plugin that can also pull in the raw/jpg photos seems possible are well, and I bet there will be people willing to pay for such.
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I'm going to try this in English.

Since everything is unencrypted http, I would imagine it won't take long before all the traffic is captured and we know how the commands are being sent. People can then write their own interfaces for the thing.
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Internet explorer has a network capture feature (press F12 , and it's one of the options) you just look at what is being requested and pop it into a script.

If anyone who has a K3 with a flu card wants to get together, I reckon I could have a command line interval timer going in a matter of minutes.
 
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