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getting the right colors out of Sony A7r sensor....
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Absolutic
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I remember taking this photograph like it was yesterday and this is exactly how the skin colors looked like at the restaurant
Yes but it is a little trickier with skin colors. Here is an example of a pic of my wife I took at Cabo with A7r. Granted I should have bought a flash before my trip but I was just out of $$$ after paying for A7r and 55/1.8FE. I tried to play with colors in it, but this looks like a death mask on her face...
Bruce Oudekerk
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These are the best suggestions and probably the reason there was no response earlier. To create a usable photographer-preferanced camera profile that is not automated is not for the faint of heart and has a fairly long learing curve.
It is the long term soluion to this issue however. Camera profiles are as much art as science. Its not so much that the Fuji sensor is better or worse as its primarily a profile that determines its look comined with exposure and WB.
Slight exaggeration, but not much.
Bruce
Yes but it is a little trickier with skin colors. Here is an example of a pic of my wife I took at Cabo with A7r. Granted I should have bought a flash before my trip but I was just out of $$$ after paying for A7r and 55/1.8FE. I tried to play with colors in it, but this looks like a death mask on her face...
"death mask"?? seriously? that's a cool pic, she's an attractive lady, i don't see the same end-of-the-world issue that you do.
i'm wondering if all that flat sand in the pic could have played a role in the color balance, however.
did you set the color balance manually before taking the shot? is the color balance set on auto?
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Fredy Ross
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I am sorry if I offended you but I think you are having buyer's remorse. Yes Fuji has great colours in jpeg but maybe you would be better off with the A7. your problem with the two photo you presented had nothing to do with bad colours. you just weren't close enough. I was being sincere and didn't mean to offend you and I won't say another word.
José B
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I guess to each their own. In my case for portraits, I have a lot of details (including unwanted ones
already from jpeg files. I shoot with a Canon system as well and I love their jpeg engine too.
Bruce Oudekerk
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I'm away from my color managed destop environment right now sitting in Dunkin Donuts. This image is too yellow on my android tablet and fine on my iPhone. Therein is a issue that might have relevance.I remember taking this photograph like it was yesterday and this is exactly how the skin colors looked like at the restaurant
Yes but it is a little trickier with skin colors. Here is an example of a pic of my wife I took at Cabo with A7r. Granted I should have bought a flash before my trip but I was just out of $$$ after paying for A7r and 55/1.8FE. I tried to play with colors in it, but this looks like a death mask on her face...
Bruce
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If you are using LR5, are you using the lens profile for the 55/1.8? It is off by default. Typically I will add some contrast and some saturation to the raw file. Usually WB is fine, but depends on the lighting. Really only takes a couple of slider movements to get something I like.
Some of the Fuji files I like, others look a bit over-saturated to me but ymmv. If you really like the Fuji jpgs, then ditch the A7r and get an XT1 - unless you really need a 36MP FF file.
Some of the Fuji files I like, others look a bit over-saturated to me but ymmv. If you really like the Fuji jpgs, then ditch the A7r and get an XT1 - unless you really need a 36MP FF file.
juvx
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Personally i just edit each RAW file in lightroom and bring out the colors. The colors are there they just need to be brought out a bit.
Took this last weekend of my little girl and wife playing. A7 with kit lens.
Took this last weekend of my little girl and wife playing. A7 with kit lens.
exdeejjjaaaa
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just buy it back (or rather X-T1).
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probert500
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I agree. Compared to the canon 5d mk2 the sony colors are very neutral - no blooming of the reds etc.. I do copy work so this is pretty critical. I'm very impressed.
The OP could shoot in a different raw mode - vivid - or something - or play with curves bringing the black and white values up to the histogram and putting a gentle contrast curve for middle values. Or just play with the brightness and exposure sliders in raw.
Absolutic
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Absolutic
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I like most things about my Sony A7r, dear exdeejjjaaaa, as I pointed before in another thread, from how it handles in my hands, to ability to use Flash Xsync in FP mode, and everything else. I love the picture quality and sharpness and detail I am getting.
As far as XT1, I think at this point if I get any Fuji it probably be a X100s, because as I discovered yet again in my recent vacation to Cabo, having fast flash xsync rate is critical for my shooting. And 1/180 with inability to use FP flash is not going to work for me. X100s, on contrary, with its 1/2000 flash xsync would work nicely.
Absolutic
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I like the 36MP ff files, handling and other things about A7r, and I am not ditching the A7r.
Brian_Smith
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Every new camera system takes a bit of getting used to, but I've liked Sony color from the start.
99% of the time I process in Lightroom and the adjustment I usually start with is "Punch" which adds a bit of Vibrance and Clarity (midtone contrast). I actually prefer when cameras don't over-process the RAWs - it's much easier to add contrast than recover lost shadow and highlight detail.
Sony senors have remained pretty consistent since I first picked up an A900 in 2008, so the good news is once you get a handle on what you like - you're good to go.
Here are some portraits shot on Sony.
Here's some reportage shot on Sony A7R.
I noticed quite a while ago that photos on a7/a7r photo threads were not as attractive to me as those from NEX threads. I assumed it was due to the learning curve of photographers new to the a7(r). But still, I'm not overly impressed with the IQ from the newer cameras.
For example, FR's photo of the boy is somewhat muddy. The colors are dull and lifeless.
For example, FR's photo of the boy is somewhat muddy. The colors are dull and lifeless.
Yes, much better. Lots of color and detail and Zeiss and Leica glass. Thanks for the tip.
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