If A6000 is 24mp where does leave the A7000 to go to?

I think 20-24mp are today what 16mp were till the last year. So we need a new 'high end' mp sensor, in the range of 30-36mp. But it has to be on par or better, as to dr and high iso, compared to the 24mp one.
 
IBIS is probably a pipe dream for cameras with this kind of form factor.

Also, I've never worked with a camera with IBIS. Does IBIS really work as well as a good OS system, especially at widely differing focal lengths?
 
It could have a touch screen, and it could be controlled by my iPhone. It could include GPS.

Improved image processing, as per the 6000. An A7000 could include the improved AF of the A6000, too.

More shots per second; better battery life.

The ability to use third party apps,.

Improved EVF. And keep or improve the already rugged body.

Universal flash shoe; let the flash act as a controller.

Tri-Nav.

Easier-to-use menu. The ability to recall settings.
 
I think its obvious that the a6000 might be the successor to the NEX6 and perhaps sitting a step down from the NEX7 in some ways, but it is not and can not be the ultimate APS-C e-mount camera in the Sony lineup. It looks to be a very nice camera but the price gap alone between the a7 and the a6000 suggests that there is at least one more APS-C e-mount camera to come in the near future.

When rumors of a NEX 7 successor arose I thought that it would be a sealed a7-like body with an 30MP APS-C sensor, perhaps a touch screen and the same EVF. The realities are that it would be a fairly expensive camera and this is what I envision the a7000 to look like. But instead a well speced camera has appeared more in the sleek NEX tradition and at an aggressive price point. Its really a marketing no-brainer, as this is a camera that should appeal to many, many people. Perhaps not DPreview...they are already setting us up with preliminary digs, but I believe that, unless there are some monumental screw-up's here, this will prove to be a very successful product for Sony. When the near-hysteria autofocus elation settles into a reasonable real-world viewpoint, even that should prove impressive, or at least satisfying, feature.

I'm not trivializing the importance of fast and accurate autofocus because the bottom line is when the photographer pushes the shutter button, a sharp image is expected. We can argue about the difficulties of mirrorless autofocus with larger sensors but that is all it is...arguing. I will be so bold as to forecast that Sony's future in the camera business revolves primarily on their success in implementing mirrorless autofocus for both e and a-mount. That's the big unknown, as they already have class leading sensors and displays and they should be able to grunt out the electronics and packaging.

I hope the a6000 has made significant progress in AF but, whatever, there will be great deal of room for improvement.

I have to confess that 4K video or NO video makes little difference to me.

Bruce
 
While the 7 is a great camera, I suspect that many people like me were not willing to pay the large extra to get there. I doubt it had enough volume of sales. How fine can you split a line?
 
I'd say: please, not more resolution. My optics could barely keep up with 24MP on APS-C. I am constantly finding full-frame a lot easier to work with at 24MP - I can only imagine what 36MP would be like. :-|

My concept for a true mirrorless APS-C flagship would be 16-18MP with rugged build, great controls, rock solid AF, killer low light ability and of course the best possible EVF. Oh, and a great selection of cool fast prime lenses.

Sounds like I'm wanting the next generation Fuji XT-1. ;-)
 
Is Sony planning on a different sensor for the rumoured A7000 later this year? Or is it going to have 4K video and same 24mp sensor.

So same sensor, larger EVF and 4K video would be a nice upgrade over A6000.

What do you think?

Greg.

There are plenty of ways an A7000 could provide more features to differentiate itself:

faster shutter speed
studio flash sync socket
front AND rear IR sensor
slightly larger with optional extension grip (makes it better to handle with forthcoming larger lenses)
weather sealing
higher sync speed
dual card slot
...

These are the sorts of things that differentiate DSLR's from each other, not the sensor. There's too much emphasis on the sensor which is never the limiting factor of image quality on my NEX-6 (focus speed and accuracy almost always are the bottleneck.)

Bart
 
I don't think there will be an A7000. There isn't even an APS-C lense roadmap anymore. All lenses coming in 2014 are FE lenses.


Sony's strategy appears to be:

1. Acquire new mirrorless customers by having good priced Alpha 5000/6000 relative to the competition.

2. Get customers to upgrade to a full frame body down the line. Offer mediocre APS-C lenses, but excellent FE lenses.
 
I don't think there will be an A7000. There isn't even an APS-C lense roadmap anymore. All lenses coming in 2014 are FE lenses.

Sony's strategy appears to be:

1. Acquire new mirrorless customers by having good priced Alpha 5000/6000 relative to the competition.

2. Get customers to upgrade to a full frame body down the line. Offer mediocre APS-C lenses, but excellent FE lenses.
I don't have any faith in their FE strategy frankly. I hope I'm proven wrong, but I don't think the small E-mount is amenable to a good FF system. Plus I personally consider the FF sensor a detriment in most use-cases.

The fact that the A6000 has built-in wireless flash control tells me Sony considers advanced enthusiast and compact pro markets worth pursuing.

What might save it is if the FF sensors eventually high enough pixel density enable digital zoom to be more practical (so you wouldn't actually need longer lenses to get longer reach).

I think (again, "hope" is probably a more honest word) the A6000 is going to fly off the shelves and drive APS-C sales such that Sony will (once again) change strategy to put more emphasis back on the APS-C system (and maybe finally decide to dump the SLT/SLR bodies.)

Bart
 
Thank you
Russell
Don't count on it. If it is an absolutely must have, E-mount system appears built for optical stabilization (note dual mode OSS on FE 70-200G). Sensor stabilization will require more space in pretty much every direction. Sony A-mount will continue to offer it, E-mount is unlikely to drop OSS.
 
Thank you
Russell
Don't count on it. If it is an absolutely must have, E-mount system appears built for optical stabilization (note dual mode OSS on FE 70-200G). Sensor stabilization will require more space in pretty much every direction. Sony A-mount will continue to offer it, E-mount is unlikely to drop OSS.
What does the mount have to do with anything other than being over-sized enough to allow for the sensor to move around? The E-mount is plenty-oversized for IBIS.

Bart
 
I honestly can't see the A6000 being any type of upgrade for the NEX-7. Nothing there to get me away for the NEX-7 in the specs. Being fair though, I don't have a use for AF, so that could well be a massive difference for a lot of people. That and the new menu system.
By far the commonest question asked in the beginners' forum is "What is a good camera with fast focussing for shooting kids in low light ?" And some of those asking have quite big budgets.
No 1/8000 and no resolution boost. So I can sort of see where this is going. I could certainly use the A6000, but I would sooner wait to see what Sony has down the track and then use the NEX-7 as a backup. As I've always said, its going to take something special to get the NEX-7 out of my hands ;-) This isn't it.
True.

But for somebody who does not already have a NEX-7, the A6000 could be preferable.
All the best Greg and times are just getting better.
I don't know about "times", but cameras are. ;-)
 
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i am thinking.. that we won't see that for awhile... more likely to see a3100 or a5100

because "7s" are considered something revolutionary. (minolta 7s... gx7, a7.. so on.) a7000 will be reserved for something strange and cool cooked up
 
Thank you
Russell
Don't count on it. If it is an absolutely must have, E-mount system appears built for optical stabilization (note dual mode OSS on FE 70-200G). Sensor stabilization will require more space in pretty much every direction. Sony A-mount will continue to offer it, E-mount is unlikely to drop OSS.
As you are an undeclared Sony spokesman I am finally getting round to accepting that there will never be IBIS in a NEX sized body so it is time for me to move on. Quite where I go it is difficult to say , perhaps one compromise would be to get A Fuji , either the XE-2 or XT-1 with the 18-55mm ,55-200mm & perhaps the 10-24mm or 14mm. I could wait for the mark 2 Sony a7r but quite when that will come is anyone's guess ?

In the meantime I will continue to use my Sony A900 , which despite its weight continues to do what I want it to do.
 

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