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OK I'll just look at M39 and OM glass.... No I won't...
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zuikowesty
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Lets see, $500 gets you
55mm F1.2 Nikon - $211
focal reducer EF-MFT - $100 (EF for more options)
nikon F to canon EF - $12
Total - $323, result - 40mm F0.86.
What sort of research have you been doing?
That can be looked at as higher end. If you're looking for a common F1.8/F1.7 lens you can get 50mm lenses for under 20.
If you want wide, consider using the wide angle adapter on kit lens - http://www.amazon.com/Olympus-WCON-...01&sr=8-2&keywords=olympus+wide+angle+adapter
It's actually pretty decent quality.
If you really want manual, you may find ~17mm old used off brand lenses for cheap. They do pretty well on speed boosters/focal reducers. I paid ~$55 for my OM mount Vivitar.
Shot wide open on Vivitar 17mm F3.5 on 0.72x Speed booster (12.2mm)
Stopped down a bit for longer exposure
Think of a 0.72x focal reducer on your 2x crop camera as a camera with a 1.44x crop - so many old lenses will do fine really, especially if they're meant for APS-C.
I hadn't been doing a lot of research just a bit of a cursory scan at some of the smaller and lighter lenses... I figure for slow moving targets and landscapes one of these lenses would be better, I put $10 on a 135mm F/3.5 Canon FD prime. I figure it'll come in handy to try out when I'm hiking and want that extra bit of zoom. The lens itself is only 70mm for a 270mm equivalent F/3.5 that can stop down to F/32. It should be good for where I want to get more reach to actually get better detail of objects 20km+ (12mile) away.
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Paul Auclair
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be prepared "not" to get a lot of detail from objects 12+ miles away.
Nothing to do with glass or camera...there will be atmospheric distortion. the farther the subject is the more atmosphere/distortion inbetween.
also...Yes there are many FD mounts with superb great glass but the adapters are ..hit and miss...
Of all the adapters I've had, I've only had issue with a couple.
What is your goal lumixdude?
Manual lenses can fill a couple needs very well:
1-Fast cheap glass
2-cheap Macro
So, priority is cheap
If you need wides, or zooms, you're better served within the system. Cheapest wide is the wide angle converter on the kit lens - that gives you a 20mm equivalent which is excellent.
If you really want speed, and want to cut back on the corp factor, I strongly suggest the focal reducer adapter I specified. EF mount will adapt many other mounts - nikon F, pentax K and m42, OM etc.
If you want to understand more on speed booster, here's a little light reading.
http://beomagi.blogspot.com/2014/01/focal-reducers-on-dslrs-and-light-gain.html
This is a test of a couple different solutions that all are 25mm F1.4
http://beomagi.blogspot.com/2014/02/a-little-test-of-4-different-25mm-f14.html
FD glass is good - my main lens WAS an FD, but FD is a little more restrictive in that FD glass wont work well anywhere else but on mirrorless. It limits the lens should you choose to spread out later and invest in another camera system, or sell the lens later since your possible buyers are more limited.
e.g. selling nikon manual prime will appeal to nikon and canon users since nikon F lenses adapt to canon EF mounts.
When you end up with a big collection of cheap (and not-so-cheap) manual glass, a focal reducer that adapts to most of them makes even more sense, especially when you look at F-Stop gain.
Browse through KEH. They've got some excellent deals. I'm buying lenses from them all the time when I see them for under $50 or so. One of my favorite wide angle 28mm lenses, is a tamron-F 28mm F2.8 I bought for $9.
Do note, I use this glass on my EP3 and 5D, so each lens is like 3 lenses to me...
What is your goal lumixdude?
Manual lenses can fill a couple needs very well:
1-Fast cheap glass
2-cheap Macro
So, priority is cheap
If you need wides, or zooms, you're better served within the system. Cheapest wide is the wide angle converter on the kit lens - that gives you a 20mm equivalent which is excellent.
If you really want speed, and want to cut back on the corp factor, I strongly suggest the focal reducer adapter I specified. EF mount will adapt many other mounts - nikon F, pentax K and m42, OM etc.
If you want to understand more on speed booster, here's a little light reading.
http://beomagi.blogspot.com/2014/01/focal-reducers-on-dslrs-and-light-gain.html
This is a test of a couple different solutions that all are 25mm F1.4
http://beomagi.blogspot.com/2014/02/a-little-test-of-4-different-25mm-f14.html
FD glass is good - my main lens WAS an FD, but FD is a little more restrictive in that FD glass wont work well anywhere else but on mirrorless. It limits the lens should you choose to spread out later and invest in another camera system, or sell the lens later since your possible buyers are more limited.
e.g. selling nikon manual prime will appeal to nikon and canon users since nikon F lenses adapt to canon EF mounts.
When you end up with a big collection of cheap (and not-so-cheap) manual glass, a focal reducer that adapts to most of them makes even more sense, especially when you look at F-Stop gain.
Browse through KEH. They've got some excellent deals. I'm buying lenses from them all the time when I see them for under $50 or so. One of my favorite wide angle 28mm lenses, is a tamron-F 28mm F2.8 I bought for $9.
Do note, I use this glass on my EP3 and 5D, so each lens is like 3 lenses to me...
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alfredo_tomato
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It seems like the mount makes a difference. The same lens with an M42 mount seems to run cheaper than a Nikon mount.
I just picked up a Tokina 28mm 2.8 PK mount for $28. It's sharp and seems to have good contrast.
Patience is important at the auction sites.
I just picked up a Tokina 28mm 2.8 PK mount for $28. It's sharp and seems to have good contrast.
Patience is important at the auction sites.
This lens does have a particular purpose, which is always good... The aim here is a piece of glass I can take hiking with me in order to turn this into a better shot. The lens I'm looking at is about 70mm long and about 350grams. It's a prime I'm going to be using for shots like this one.Of all the adapters I've had, I've only had issue with a couple.
What is your goal lumixdude?
Manual lenses can fill a couple needs very well:
1-Fast cheap glass
2-cheap Macro
So, priority is cheap
If you need wides, or zooms, you're better served within the system. Cheapest wide is the wide angle converter on the kit lens - that gives you a 20mm equivalent which is excellent.
If you really want speed, and want to cut back on the corp factor, I strongly suggest the focal reducer adapter I specified. EF mount will adapt many other mounts - nikon F, pentax K and m42, OM etc.
If you want to understand more on speed booster, here's a little light reading.
http://beomagi.blogspot.com/2014/01/focal-reducers-on-dslrs-and-light-gain.html
This is a test of a couple different solutions that all are 25mm F1.4
http://beomagi.blogspot.com/2014/02/a-little-test-of-4-different-25mm-f14.html
FD glass is good - my main lens WAS an FD, but FD is a little more restrictive in that FD glass wont work well anywhere else but on mirrorless. It limits the lens should you choose to spread out later and invest in another camera system, or sell the lens later since your possible buyers are more limited.
e.g. selling nikon manual prime will appeal to nikon and canon users since nikon F lenses adapt to canon EF mounts.
When you end up with a big collection of cheap (and not-so-cheap) manual glass, a focal reducer that adapts to most of them makes even more sense, especially when you look at F-Stop gain.
Browse through KEH. They've got some excellent deals. I'm buying lenses from them all the time when I see them for under $50 or so. One of my favorite wide angle 28mm lenses, is a tamron-F 28mm F2.8 I bought for $9.
Do note, I use this glass on my EP3 and 5D, so each lens is like 3 lenses to me...
While this is a nice panorama composition, I want to actually get closer to where the airport is there and use that as that as the first focal point in my picture. I also want to get closer to the headlands there and the town that is on the end if there. At 270mm I should be able to get a fair bit closer and actually frame shots like this a lot better. It should actually start to go somewhere near making the lighthouse on the end of the first point there an object of interest rather than just a spec.
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If that's your plan, why not just get the more reasonably priced Oly 45? It will be cheaper than any Leica 50's, even cheaper than current prices of Summitars. So what's the point? Regarding fast 12mm lenses, which ones of those have ever been cheap.
Maybe I've just lost track of your sarcasm, but...
Andy Crowe
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There are some (at least in the UK) 24 and 28s going cheap, although admittedly looking at the ebay listings more carefully they're either not in perfect cosmetic condition or have hazed a bit (cleanable?)
Good condition Zuiko F2 lenses are going for £150-£300.
Brendan Delaney
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I had a pretty extensive OM lens collection including some of the exotic lenses mentioned here. I've slimmed it down to one OM4Ti body and 6 lenses. The 16mm fE, 18mm f3.5, 21mm f3.5, 24mm f2, 35mm f2, 85mm f2. All of these work brilliantly on my FF Leica M with a novoflex adaptor. The 18mm in particular is superb, and whilst expensive, its a fraction of the cost of a Leica 18mm Super Elmarit.
Use them on Micro43? No, forget it. The MZD lenses perform much better, and then you have the 2x crop factor, which makes everything a normal-telephoto. Given OM super wides are some of the best made for FF at the time, this seems a bit pointless....
Use them on Micro43? No, forget it. The MZD lenses perform much better, and then you have the 2x crop factor, which makes everything a normal-telephoto. Given OM super wides are some of the best made for FF at the time, this seems a bit pointless....
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