Nikon new Release ... another entry level with Kit Lens...wow!!!

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D3300 with a get this...'collapsable' kit lens!

Wow, how exciting!

I mean, difficult to imagine them being more inventive, isn't it?

Yes, sarcasm.....is...

;-)

I just hope the old used stocks of D300's, D2X's, D700 and D3's, stay in fairly good nick, to provide a stock inventory for some of us.

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Just to make you feel better perhaps, you are not alone. Another D3xxx .. give me strength.

Mr Nikon .. please, if you are not going to support a Pro DX line any further just say so. Surely it ain't that hard!

Ok so Canon have not come out with a 7D II .. so what, here is your opportunity to lead for once!
 
Apparently but there's money to be made here as many are ready to upgrade their bodies and lenses. Not "downgrade". Innovation and leading is of no concern to Nikon.

Guess they're trying to quickly recoup their losses after the recent natural disasters in Asia.
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Dez
 
Not only the entry level but what really gives you an idea it's run by the utterly clueless is the 3 P&S models. Yep, 3 new cameras in M&M's colors for a market that's as viable as VHS tapes. Nothing says genius like making products for a market that died 3 years ago.
 
Pardon me, but I'm new to DP only been observing and reading for a few months, and I have been a Nikon user for quite sometime mostly in film, and in recent times made the move to digital.

I'm thinking along the same lines as what some of you other folks are saying, it looks to me; Nikons "core" group of enthusiasts long time users that is are the upper crop cameras and pro cameras, I sense these are the buyers who purchase the D400s??? D800s, and the f4 and 2.8 lenses, but Nikon seems to covet just the entry level buyer who in my judgement will buy just the 18 xxx 5.6 lenses, I feel Nikon is letting a lot of faithful longtime users "rot on the vine"

I hope I'm saying what so many others seem to be saying? Me! I have my D200 and D700 and to be quite frank I'm happy with them, I do have three "G" prime lenses a 70 300 VR and old film zooms, and I like the new 35 1.8 G lens, wait and see its IQ. I'd like to maybe upgrade someday to a D610 type but I'm retired and on fixed income, must watch "pennies" very close, but to summarize I think Nikon is pushing some old time users to other camera camps!

With these new introductions maybe Nikon will surprise everyone with the D300 upgrade so many have been waiting on.

For what its worth department??

"dog house riley"
 
It's a rhetorical question, and a bit of a comeback to the one asked a week ago in this forum about the D400, but I think it's a useful thought-experiment. My answer would be that I wouldn't pay anything for a D3300 because I'm not interested in it. Is Nikon listening to us or give a damn? Thom Hogan's latest commentary on this issue captures the frustration many of us feel with Nikon, and the answer is obvious, they don't give a damn.

On the bright side, Nikon has literally run out of DX cameras other than the D300s to refresh. I lose count how many times they've refreshed some of these lower end models, but the D90 has had two so far, so it's possible Nikon will just keep making ever more incremental iterations of the D7000 and D5000 and figure maybe the D7200 or D7300 will finally suffice to meet the expectations of the serious DX shooters.
 
Pardon me, but I'm new to DP only been observing and reading for a few months, and I have been a Nikon user for quite sometime mostly in film, and in recent times made the move to digital.

I'm thinking along the same lines as what some of you other folks are saying, it looks to me; Nikons "core" group of enthusiasts long time users that is are the upper crop cameras and pro cameras, I sense these are the buyers who purchase the D400s??? D800s, and the f4 and 2.8 lenses, but Nikon seems to covet just the entry level buyer who in my judgement will buy just the 18 xxx 5.6 lenses, I feel Nikon is letting a lot of faithful longtime users "rot on the vine"

I hope I'm saying what so many others seem to be saying? Me! I have my D200 and D700 and to be quite frank I'm happy with them, I do have three "G" prime lenses a 70 300 VR and old film zooms, and I like the new 35 1.8 G lens, wait and see its IQ. I'd like to maybe upgrade someday to a D610 type but I'm retired and on fixed income, must watch "pennies" very close, but to summarize I think Nikon is pushing some old time users to other camera camps!

With these new introductions maybe Nikon will surprise everyone with the D300 upgrade so many have been waiting on.

For what its worth department??

"dog house riley"
Welcome. And you have two great cameras, good for you. Yup, the 200 /300/ 700 series are wonderful and yes, many wish to see the D300 update with a current sensor, inexplicable that the other cameras have two and three updates but not for the 300 series.

Ah well, ours still work very well.

Thanks for commenting/ joining.
 
...Nikon, and the answer is obvious, they don't give a damn.
Probably many are starting to think so...
On the bright side, Nikon has literally run out of DX cameras other than the D300s to refresh.
Lo... maybe
I lose count how many times they've refreshed some of these lower end models, but the D90 has had two so far, so it's possible Nikon will just keep making ever more incremental iterations of the D7000 and D5000 and figure maybe the D7200 or D7300 will finally suffice to meet the expectations of the serious DX shooters.
Likely that is it. Ah well, as long as there are good used stocks of D300's, D700's and D3's, we should be okay.

The benefit of buying 'good used' is someone else has already taken the 'early depreciation'.
 
The problem is that they are stuffing that 24MP sensor in every new DX body, leaving the D300 in the dust. I already bought a D7100 and the IQ difference, in terms of detail and lower noise, is enough that I have to have it. I love my D300, but I need the improvement.
 
The problem is that they are stuffing that 24MP sensor in every new DX body, leaving the D300 in the dust. I already bought a D7100 and the IQ difference, in terms of detail and lower noise, is enough that I have to have it. I love my D300, but I need the improvement.
 
Nikon

We are starting to get angry now.

No Regards

Roger.
 
Where did you read that? That's pretty pathetic of Nikon. They don't give a sh_t about current customers. They just want to attract new ones.
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Here.... http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/0..._source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu
Wow, I missed that. What a crappy release

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Pardon me, but I'm new to DP only been observing and reading for a few months, and I have been a Nikon user for quite sometime mostly in film, and in recent times made the move to digital.

I'm thinking along the same lines as what some of you other folks are saying, it looks to me; Nikons "core" group of enthusiasts long time users that is are the upper crop cameras and pro cameras, I sense these are the buyers who purchase the D400s??? D800s, and the f4 and 2.8 lenses, but Nikon seems to covet just the entry level buyer who in my judgement will buy just the 18 xxx 5.6 lenses, I feel Nikon is letting a lot of faithful longtime users "rot on the vine"

I hope I'm saying what so many others seem to be saying? Me! I have my D200 and D700 and to be quite frank I'm happy with them, I do have three "G" prime lenses a 70 300 VR and old film zooms, and I like the new 35 1.8 G lens, wait and see its IQ. I'd like to maybe upgrade someday to a D610 type but I'm retired and on fixed income, must watch "pennies" very close, but to summarize I think Nikon is pushing some old time users to other camera camps!
I'm a long time Nikon user (since 1976), and went digital in 2009 with the D90. I bought the D7000 just because it would meter with my AI lenses. While I can appreciate the enthusiast's concern for details like the number of focus points, and all metal build, I do like the size and feel of the D7000/D610 models. Getting to my point, no one else makes a camera that I would really enjoy shooting at this time.
With these new introductions maybe Nikon will surprise everyone with the D300 upgrade so many have been waiting on.

For what its worth department??

"dog house riley"
 
It's a rhetorical question, and a bit of a comeback to the one asked a week ago in this forum about the D400, but I think it's a useful thought-experiment. My answer would be that I wouldn't pay anything for a D3300 because I'm not interested in it. Is Nikon listening to us or give a damn? Thom Hogan's latest commentary on this issue captures the frustration many of us feel with Nikon, and the answer is obvious, they don't give a damn.
I have a lot of respect for Hogan, but I am getting an increasing feeling that he is succumbing to a common reviewer trap. He is not reviewing cameras, he is reviewing cameras for an audience. There is an unacknowledged tendency to play to the audience. In this case the audience is a group of interweb people that tend to acquiesce to each others' opinions, and this commonality becomes the norm. The reviews then become predictable and repetitious, as the One True Interweb Opinion is arrived at.

This is the case with reviews of the Df, of the EM-1, and of the D3300. The tendency to look at a single model in isolation.

Take a step back. Look at overall trends and tendencies and slow evolution. It's not reviewers or web posters that declare what consumer product is a success. It's the Market: the thousands and thousands of nameless and faceless consumers who vote with their money, based on their own judgement of what works. This is the target of consumer product manufacturers, not (and I don't except myself) self-absorbed and self-important bloggers and forum posters.

In the D3300 Nikon has introduced a luxury toy with much higher resolution than the vaunted Olympus EM-1 luxury toy, with likely faster operation, at a lighter weight than the Olympus, better direct SLR viewing, and with a brand new collapsible lens at LESS than half the price of the Olympus body alone. Consumers will think this is a fantastic package and will by it by the hundreds of thousands. Why not? In terms of picture taking ability and image quality, they give up nothing and save lots.

The market is wise, and determines the success of the product. This product doesn't have to be innovative (although, how is it not??), and so what if many variations are released? This is how a major manufacturer stays competitive, vs a bet-the-house product like the EM-1.

The bloggers and posters have declared the death of the DSLR repeatedly, but the market begs to differ.

If we need to take a nice picture at a nice price point the tools are there, Nikon or other. Or we can grouse to each other that the manufactures are stupid because they deliver to the market rather than my own personal demands.
 
In the D3300 Nikon has introduced a luxury toy with much higher resolution than the vaunted Olympus EM-1 luxury toy, with likely faster operation, at a lighter weight than the Olympus, better direct SLR viewing, and with a brand new collapsible lens at LESS than half the price of the Olympus body alone. Consumers will think this is a fantastic package and will by it by the hundreds of thousands. Why not? In terms of picture taking ability and image quality, they give up nothing and save lots.

The market is wise, and determines the success of the product. This product doesn't have to be innovative (although, how is it not??), and so what if many variations are released? This is how a major manufacturer stays competitive, vs a bet-the-house product like the EM-1.
Nah, it's not how they stay competitive - it's GM/Chrysler fail think. We'll just keep churning out warmed over versions of the same old stuff & the consumer will buy it. Why? Because they've always bought & will continue to do so = fail think.

Okay, so it has a high(er) res sensor.......bring anything else to the table? Nope, zip, zero, zilch. Offer any connectivity for the "instagram" world? Nope. Any GPS for the "selfies" world in which we live? Nope. It's simply another of the exact same item, move along, nothing to see here. It's how they end up like the Japanese auto makers who are so far behind the technology curve they can't even see the front............might not bite you in the *ss today but it will catch up to you.

Wow, up 15%........what's the overall market up since then? (are they doing well or really just riding along with no horrible news)
 

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