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Love number 4, lovely shot! I've lusted for this camera since it was released. Best of luck with it.
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Thanks! I've "lusted" after this camera for 2 solid years. Only finding it priced nicely in Japan got it into my hands. It's been fantastic ever since!
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Odd. I would love to see your 6x7 scans that were beaten by the XE1. My scans from my RB67 easily out-resolve my X-Pro1. Can you show me your scans?Dude, did you even read my post!?Exactly what I said after I saw these images the first time!
Thank you for the kind words and yes, I will enjoy this camera immensely, much to the chagrin of others as you can see in other posts here in this thread.I wish that all these modern camera companies that exist now, that are so concentrated in high ISO would realize this.
Incredibly beautiful man! Congratulations and enjoy it
Thanks again!
I enjoy shooting film and do it almost everyday. 120 roll film. 220 roll film. 35mm. Sheet 4x5 and 8x10.
All I am saying is that the resolution of a 6x7cm doesn't even come close to even an XE-1 APS-C sensor. Not to mention all the headaches that come along with shooting film. No one but you denies this. That is what blows me away.
For you, it has always been a case of "my way or the highway". That is why you gt banned in the first place.
Chill. Take other peoples opinions with a grain of salt. And don't feel threatened when someone disagrees with you.
It is just boring. You can look at my Angkor Wat set on flickr if you like. There are some 6x12 scans in there as well as D800e, XE-1 and XE-1 IR conversions.Odd. I would love to see your 6x7 scans that were beaten by the XE1. My scans from my RB67 easily out-resolve my X-Pro1. Can you show me your scans?Dude, did you even read my post!?Exactly what I said after I saw these images the first time!
Thank you for the kind words and yes, I will enjoy this camera immensely, much to the chagrin of others as you can see in other posts here in this thread.I wish that all these modern camera companies that exist now, that are so concentrated in high ISO would realize this.
Incredibly beautiful man! Congratulations and enjoy it
Thanks again!
I enjoy shooting film and do it almost everyday. 120 roll film. 220 roll film. 35mm. Sheet 4x5 and 8x10.
All I am saying is that the resolution of a 6x7cm doesn't even come close to even an XE-1 APS-C sensor. Not to mention all the headaches that come along with shooting film. No one but you denies this. That is what blows me away.
For you, it has always been a case of "my way or the highway". That is why you gt banned in the first place.
Chill. Take other peoples opinions with a grain of salt. And don't feel threatened when someone disagrees with you.
This horse has been beaten to death over the past ten years and there are many who are WAY more qualified than me who have done film v digital in a more controlled way than "dude, let me see some of your scans"
What chemistry did I use? What film did I use? What temperature was the chemistry? How old was the film? How old was the chemistry? What scanner was used? Was it wet scanned? What lens was used? Were the shots taken at the same time of the same location with the same lens?
I don't do A/B scientific comparisons of film v digital. Frankly, there are too many variables. Even those who have are usually inconclusive. I am happy with both.
Maybe, in the future, I should start every sentence with, "in my opinion based on research I have seen or done"
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It would be just your opinion. As my eyes are just fine, I know my Fuji doesn't stand up to 6x7....nor my 4x5 rig. Tim Parkin did a high rez scan of MF vs the D800e and subjected each to extreme enlargement. Here's a link to his results. As I can get more rez from my 35mm Ektar 100 then my Fuji, I'd say the issue is with your technique or scanning.It is just boring. You can look at my Angkor Wat set on flickr if you like. There are some 6x12 scans in there as well as D800e, XE-1 and XE-1 IR conversions.Odd. I would love to see your 6x7 scans that were beaten by the XE1. My scans from my RB67 easily out-resolve my X-Pro1. Can you show me your scans?Dude, did you even read my post!?Exactly what I said after I saw these images the first time!
Thank you for the kind words and yes, I will enjoy this camera immensely, much to the chagrin of others as you can see in other posts here in this thread.I wish that all these modern camera companies that exist now, that are so concentrated in high ISO would realize this.
Incredibly beautiful man! Congratulations and enjoy it
Thanks again!
I enjoy shooting film and do it almost everyday. 120 roll film. 220 roll film. 35mm. Sheet 4x5 and 8x10.
All I am saying is that the resolution of a 6x7cm doesn't even come close to even an XE-1 APS-C sensor. Not to mention all the headaches that come along with shooting film. No one but you denies this. That is what blows me away.
For you, it has always been a case of "my way or the highway". That is why you gt banned in the first place.
Chill. Take other peoples opinions with a grain of salt. And don't feel threatened when someone disagrees with you.
This horse has been beaten to death over the past ten years and there are many who are WAY more qualified than me who have done film v digital in a more controlled way than "dude, let me see some of your scans"
What chemistry did I use? What film did I use? What temperature was the chemistry? How old was the film? How old was the chemistry? What scanner was used? Was it wet scanned? What lens was used? Were the shots taken at the same time of the same location with the same lens?
I don't do A/B scientific comparisons of film v digital. Frankly, there are too many variables. Even those who have are usually inconclusive. I am happy with both.
Maybe, in the future, I should start every sentence with, "in my opinion based on research I have seen or done"
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Like I said I don't care. There are way too many variables that are beyond scanning that you have mentioned. On both sides of the equation. His D800e shot: at least 10 variables, it looks softer than what I can acheive with good lenses and technique for sure. Film shots: perhaps 20 variables, these look excellent and are certainly well shot and developed and scanned. Scanning could account for only a very small part of the discrepancy. I trust your belief, you should respect mine. There will never be any proof either way.It would be just your opinion. As my eyes are just fine, I know my Fuji doesn't stand up to 6x7....nor my 4x5 rig. Tim Parkin did a high rez scan of MF vs the D800e and subjected each to extreme enlargement. Here's a link to his results. As I can get more rez from my 35mm Ektar 100 then my Fuji, I'd say the issue is with your technique or scanning.It is just boring. You can look at my Angkor Wat set on flickr if you like. There are some 6x12 scans in there as well as D800e, XE-1 and XE-1 IR conversions.Odd. I would love to see your 6x7 scans that were beaten by the XE1. My scans from my RB67 easily out-resolve my X-Pro1. Can you show me your scans?Dude, did you even read my post!?Exactly what I said after I saw these images the first time!
Thank you for the kind words and yes, I will enjoy this camera immensely, much to the chagrin of others as you can see in other posts here in this thread.I wish that all these modern camera companies that exist now, that are so concentrated in high ISO would realize this.
Incredibly beautiful man! Congratulations and enjoy it
Thanks again!
I enjoy shooting film and do it almost everyday. 120 roll film. 220 roll film. 35mm. Sheet 4x5 and 8x10.
All I am saying is that the resolution of a 6x7cm doesn't even come close to even an XE-1 APS-C sensor. Not to mention all the headaches that come along with shooting film. No one but you denies this. That is what blows me away.
For you, it has always been a case of "my way or the highway". That is why you gt banned in the first place.
Chill. Take other peoples opinions with a grain of salt. And don't feel threatened when someone disagrees with you.
This horse has been beaten to death over the past ten years and there are many who are WAY more qualified than me who have done film v digital in a more controlled way than "dude, let me see some of your scans"
What chemistry did I use? What film did I use? What temperature was the chemistry? How old was the film? How old was the chemistry? What scanner was used? Was it wet scanned? What lens was used? Were the shots taken at the same time of the same location with the same lens?
I don't do A/B scientific comparisons of film v digital. Frankly, there are too many variables. Even those who have are usually inconclusive. I am happy with both.
Maybe, in the future, I should start every sentence with, "in my opinion based on research I have seen or done"
http://static.timparkin.co.uk/static/tmp/D800E-vs-Mamiya7-including-colour.jpg
Proof requires scientific method and with so many variables, it would be a massive undertaking. And boring.
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I've seen some very poorly scanned negatives that might not equal an X-E1, but any film that size scanned well easily beats an APS-C sensor. The trick is in the scanning. I would not even pretend to know how to do that well (yet). But a decent lab given a 6 x 7 negative would have no problem whatsoever beating an X-E1.Odd. I would love to see your 6x7 scans that were beaten by the XE1. My scans from my RB67 easily out-resolve my X-Pro1. Can you show me your scans?Dude, did you even read my post!?Exactly what I said after I saw these images the first time!
Thank you for the kind words and yes, I will enjoy this camera immensely, much to the chagrin of others as you can see in other posts here in this thread.I wish that all these modern camera companies that exist now, that are so concentrated in high ISO would realize this.
Incredibly beautiful man! Congratulations and enjoy it
Thanks again!
I enjoy shooting film and do it almost everyday. 120 roll film. 220 roll film. 35mm. Sheet 4x5 and 8x10.
All I am saying is that the resolution of a 6x7cm doesn't even come close to even an XE-1 APS-C sensor. Not to mention all the headaches that come along with shooting film. No one but you denies this. That is what blows me away.
For you, it has always been a case of "my way or the highway". That is why you gt banned in the first place.
Chill. Take other peoples opinions with a grain of salt. And don't feel threatened when someone disagrees with you.
And if we stop talking about scanning and switch to optical prints, then the contest isnt even close.
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Glad it worked out for you Graham. Images look nice. I assume you got yourself a nice scanner.
Sounds like you might blow a gasket for the opposite reason as some might expect. Good to see.
I have been using a Bronica ETRSi with a waist level finder. Not sure I want to go back to a viewfinder.
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Thank you kindly! No I do not have a scanner yet. These are just the lab scans. I DO need to get one but would rather spend money on film at the moment.
I'm dying right now. The cold weather makes shooting so difficult. I would give ANYTHING to have some nice weather this weekend so that I could go out and shot more film.
I have never shot with one of those. Before I found the GF670W, I was seriously considering getting me a Hasselblad with a waist level finder. I would really enjoy that I think, except loading film on those looks like a real pain. I can load up the GF670W in one minute flat.
Another image.
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Plenty of sun here downunder.
You would do some serious damage with one of those.
Pretty simple. You would do it easy.
I do like it. If you like B&W then try fomapan.
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I find that the only people who argue the point are those who either haven't really compared, or those who have, and used a cheap flatbed scanner.
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Wish the Photos where wider, looks to small and squeezed for me.
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Well, the lens is fixed at 28mm eq. focal length and I was on a small platform, with no room to back up. Not many options here! You can see the platform in this shot.
Thanks for looking!
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Today I developed my first roll of film shot from the GF670W. DAMN but that was fun! What a blast, it was over before I knew it! Black and white processing dropped from $6/roll down to less than $1 per roll. That allows my film budget to get larger!
Do you have a darkroom to print them?Today I developed my first roll of film shot from the GF670W. DAMN but that was fun! What a blast, it was over before I knew it! Black and white processing dropped from $6/roll down to less than $1 per roll. That allows my film budget to get larger!
What scanner do you have to scan them?
Do you have temperature control on your chemicals during development?
What developer did you use?
Also, hanging like that (out in the open) to is just asking to have dust embedded in the wet emulsion.
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Nope.Do you have a darkroom to print them?Today I developed my first roll of film shot from the GF670W. DAMN but that was fun! What a blast, it was over before I knew it! Black and white processing dropped from $6/roll down to less than $1 per roll. That allows my film budget to get larger!
Don't have one. They will be sent out to a lab for scanning.
Yes.
D-76.
I have two very large HEPA air filters running 24 x 7 in my house.
You could make contact prints in your bathroom pretty easily if you are interested. A piece of glass and a light bulb is about all you'd need. I find it is so satisfying to actually have prints that you made yourself.Nope.Do you have a darkroom to print them?Today I developed my first roll of film shot from the GF670W. DAMN but that was fun! What a blast, it was over before I knew it! Black and white processing dropped from $6/roll down to less than $1 per roll. That allows my film budget to get larger!
A good drum scanner and technique is critical as you know. The equipment is expensive and even then the technique is not simple.
How did you manage this?
What development method did you use?
OK, but dust is still everywhere. If you have air moving around, your negs will get covered in dust.
I know you are hesitant to take my advice, but I do this, and teach others how to do it EVERYDAY of my (professional) life. I have learned a thing or two about it.
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I may do this in future. For now I am concentrating on learning the development part first.You could make contact prints in your bathroom pretty easily if you are interested. A piece of glass and a light bulb is about all you'd need. I find it is so satisfying to actually have prints that you made yourself.Nope.Do you have a darkroom to print them?Today I developed my first roll of film shot from the GF670W. DAMN but that was fun! What a blast, it was over before I knew it! Black and white processing dropped from $6/roll down to less than $1 per roll. That allows my film budget to get larger!
Scanning is dirt cheap here in China and of above average quality. I will pay all of 3 Chinese Yuan for scanning 1 roll of 120 film,(that's 50 cents). It's not a drum scanner, but they still meet my expectations of quality. I printed out some of the files returned to me and they are gorgeous.
A water bath kept at 20 C.
D-76 1:1, Constant agitation for the first minute, followed by 10 seconds of agitation each additional minute. Total development time, 9 mins, 45 seconds. Followed by an acid stop bath for 1 minute and then fixed with a solution of Kodafix for 6 mins.
They are spotless now to my eyes. Scans may reveal otherwise. The air is 100% still in my bathroom. These rolls of film are simply test rolls with no images of any importance on them. As I said, I am learning.
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