Ordered a Fujifilm X10 yesterday, having second thoughts today. Help.

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So, on appearance and on paper the Fuji X10 looks like the camera I actually wanted last year when I dropped a bunch of money on a Sony NEX-6 system.

I set out to buy a camera to replace my aging Nikon D40. Something with IQ good enough for me with a real vintage, rangefinder look and smaller and easier to take with me everywhere. Wound up with the NEX-6. It's a great camera, but, as it turns out, I have nearly zero interest in changing lenses.

So, after reading a bunch of reviews over the last week, I decided to order the X10 since it's just under $300 now. However, I read a bunch of reviews I didn't find before that were all over the place. Great camera, camera sucks, good with major flaws, etc.

Please tell me I won't be sending this camera back. Things I want it to do:

- Decent low light without flash.

- Vintage feel.

- Good auto modes. Good photos in A-P-S modes without having to deep dive into the menus to play with settings.

- I will only ever shoot JPEG.

For what it's worth, I am really just a snap shooter. Family, outings, biking, hiking, travel. Pretty much just whatever is around me at the time.

Did I make a mistake?

Thanks
 
I used to shoot with Nikon DSLRs. I carried a bag of lenses, and was often dealing with windy, dusty lens changes outdoors - sometimes in very cold weather. Sensors got dirty. After hours of hiking, the weight affected my aging back, a shoulder and a knee. I now shoot with an X10 and X-S1. My gallery here has examples. They're as good as was most of my DSLR work, maybe a tad noisier, but I enjoy the X10 particularly when I need to travel lightly. You can get excellent jpegs with it in Auto modes. It will occasionally also let you down, as would any small sensor camera, but hopefully not too often. For all of the hypercritical material you can find on the Internet, there are a lot of happy X10 owners, too. Some have even come back for a second time, after trying other cameras. I'm one of them. Try the X10, for the features that do fit your needs. Read the opinions of others (including mine) realizing that we all see things differently, and work a bit differently. There are excellent X10 images posted on Flickr, as well as other sites. Just pulling up an image search for it will show what it can do. Good luck with your new X10!
 
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Please tell me I won't be sending this camera back. Things I want it to do:

- Decent low light without flash.
Check. (Depends on what you mean by "low light", though. For me, it's great.) Make sure you check out the Adv Pro Low Light mode.
- Vintage feel.
Check, or so I hear.
- Good auto modes. Good photos in A-P-S modes without having to deep dive into the menus to play with settings.
Check.
- I will only ever shoot JPEG.
I'd encourage you to shoot JPG+RAW, b/c the X10 has an in-camera Raw processor that's really quite nice. I sometimes forget what setting I have & have to go back & fix it, & sometimes the camera gets the WB... well, not wrong, but I have a different idea of what it should be. Plus, you can try out film simulations after the fact. All that said, I like it, and usually keep the camera's JPGs, but I've never shot a DSLR, so I may have lower standards than you.
Did I make a mistake?
I don't think so, but only you can really answer that question. Keep in mind that a lot of the negative reviews may be due to Fuji's early X10s, which had a defective sensor. There have been other problems, too, but that's the big one.
 
I bought my X10 as soon as they came out. Great package and good photos!

Later I bought an X-E1 and sold the X10, so I don't have it anymore. Lens changing is the short end of the stick with the X-E1 but the EVF makes up for it. I found that I seldom used the optical viewfinder in my X10 but I still prefer the X10 overall package instead of the X-E1. The ergonomics are perfect!

Since I prefer larger prints the X10 is not for me. Still, a great little camera! Very good prints up to 8x10, but quality starts to suffer a little at 13"x19".

At this point I'm considering a second X-E1 body (change lenses that much less often) or an XQ1 (frightfully small except it has no EVF).
 
Stop reading reviews, too late now. You'll love the camera. That is my bet. I have owned mine 2 years, now, still no regrets.
 
JQ, there's no accounting for individual likes and expectations, so only you can know for sure once it's in your hands. Having said that . . . . .

The X10 was an integral part of Fuji's retro X-camera design family. It reminds me of a 7/8 scale rangefinder camera. If you're of an age where you remember and liked things things like Canonets or Electro 35's (or Leicas and Contaxes if your pockets were deeper), you'll be right at home. All metal (save for the buttons), glass viewfinder (seriously good, it zooms with the lens like latter-day point and shoots), hot shoe, etc. You can even get the accessory real leather 'never ready' two-piece case and a 'vented' lenshood. The absolute antithesis of most current plastic brick compact cameras.

Regarding your questions:

- - - - Remember, this is a really first class f2-f2.8 28-105mm lens, very sharp at all focal lengths. With this much faster lens (relative to a lot of compacts), you get really nice hand-holdable low light images, and the camera does sport four different Image Stabilization modes. These lower max aps put you a stop or two faster than most 'kit' DSLR lenses and into a zone previously inhabited by mostly top-shelf, constant f2.8 lenses. Not bad ! I try and stay at 100 to 400 ISO, so these fast apertures are a huge help for that. Plus, since you are twisting a ring on a metal-bodies lens, it just subliminally says, 'Hey, I'm a real camera', no idiot power-zoom switch like Mom's point+shoot from WalMart.

- - - - Again, this camera takes its cues from the X100. Fuji obviously had in mind to reach guys just like me who thought cameras were supposed to be metal bodied, have knobs for stuff, and were a little experienced, we generally knew what to do with a camera. Retro as can be, I think it embodies Billy Joel's idea that he 'likes things that look old, but work new'. All this thing need is a rewind crank and a back with no LCD, and it would be a 35mm camera just that fast. I often think this is the digital equivalent of the Rollei 35: A snapshooter for guys who had real cameras and knew how to use them.

- - - -A,P, and S modes work fine. I often shoot in Aperture priority, as like a lot of cameras, the various auto modes default to low f stops to boost shutter speeds. Since this isn't a DSLR, it takes a while to learn where the AF is locking on, so I try to stay around f8 to buy a little DOF insurance. And since the max focal length is 105mm and the camera is so light, I don't mind hand-holdable slower shutter speeds occasionally to keep the shot. You have three different metering patterns and -/+ exposure compensation easily available, so it's easy to find a way of working that suits you. And as Lightpath said, there are some good presets built into ADV and SP modes. It also does idiot-proof panoramas: I know, as it works great for ME ! And the flash automation, WB, and macro capabilities are mighty fine. I've yet to find the camera that reads my mind, so after a short learning curve, it's a breeze once you learn what it does and doesn't like.

- - - - I'm a mostly Jpeg shooter. I really am not interested in a lot of post processing, a calibrated monitor, RAW, etc. Snapshooter suits me fine. While I honestly have no experience with other brands, the consensus I see is that Fuji has better-than-average Jpegs compared to most others. Lately I have begun to play with RAW and RAW+Jpeg, and can confirm that the in-camera conversion is very useful and very good. Who knows where that's going to lead me . . . . .

For an 'all-rounder', I think it's terrific, and nothing I've seen from mine would make me sorry I bought it. It's a better camera than I'm a photographer. I find it's almost invisible to people, it just doesn't jump out at them the way a lot would. I've walked right into many places, right past security guards standing next to 'no cameras' signs, with it in plain sight and they didn't give me a second glance. Travels very easily: I have a small leather case with the X in it's case, an EF20 flash, several batteries and accessories, that's it. Tiny.

Regarding the reviews:

Whether it was caused by an internal process gone wrong in Fuji's production complex, the earthquake, whatever, the early cameras had an orb problem. Pinpoint highlights would register as a burned-in small circle. While Fuji was trying to determine the extent of the problem and formulate a response, the light-speed quality of the web resulted in a firestorm of bad PR (not helped in the least by some who were quite hysterical about it). In time (not nearly fast enough for some), Fuji resorted to repairing some cameras, and eventually replaced a ton of them. I had the occasional orb, but it did not keep me up nights. I sent mine in to Fuji in New Jersey who replaced it with a brand new one (thanks, Fujifilm!), and I was hardly put out to begin with. Over time, I feel like most people realize that Fuji labored mighty hard to do the right thing, and Fuji has become quite recognized for their firmware updates to their products. Cameras are seriously complicated beasts, and even Nikon has had their nose bloodied with the D600/610 situation, it happens to everybody from time to time. And some customers are never satisfied, no matter what. So I took all that with a grain of salt, and it worked out like I expected and am quite satisfied with mine.

For me, it was a good camera for $599. For $299, it's a steal ! Lot to be said for 'late adopters' . . .

JW
 
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Since this isn't a DSLR, it takes a while to learn where the AF is locking on, so I try to stay around f8 to buy a little DOF insurance.
Do you not detect any diffraction at f/8? If not, I might have to try it; I've typically been maxing at f/6. I just found it remarkable, since you mention that you can't get much better than an 8x10 from the X10, but I've printed 8x10s from a 2MP camera that I like (portrait, to be fair, but still).
 
Hi John, I'm also a NEX shooter; a 5R. But I bought my X10 just a month ago. I actually had to return it as it had the dreaded "white orb" issue but I got another one with a more recent serial no. where they had started putting in modified sensors to solve the problem. If your X10 has ser. no. 14xxxx return it, if 22xxx it's OK.

Since the X20 was introduced a lot of the hack writers went gaga over how much better the X20 was, etc. That was mostly exaggeration, intended to sell more cameras. For a more balanced I suggest this comparison review:

http://www.ronmartblog.com/2013/04/comparison-fujifilm-x20-vs-x10-have-i.html

Suggestion...just enjoy your camera, these are great. I usually just leave mine on EXR mode, leave the screen off and use the OVF! Seems to work, and isn't that all that counts? With the screen off, the tiny battery lasts much longer; an added bonus.
 
I see no artifacts at f8; I've read and understand the diffraction process, but honestly, unless I saw something really bizarre at smaller apertures than f8, I probably would not know what I was seeing. I am more than willing to get a little depth of field at any supposed loss of quality: IF there's any, I can see no real difference, and it's not going to keep me up nights worrying about it.

I'm into pictures, not pixel peeping, and still have a lot to learn. All I know is that since sometimes I get incredibly sharp pics and then sometimes not, my education is continuing . . . . . all this tells me is the key to sharp, proper photos is me, not the camera.

I didn't mention anything about enlargements . . . . ?

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JW
 
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Cantanima, I was shooting waterfalls this fall, and wanted water action at 1/15th sec. At base ISO of 100 this translated to f/11. Like you, I was staying away from anything above mid-range apertures to avoid diffraction. But the shot posted below didn't seem too bad at f/11, the maximum for stopping down. If there are problems with sharpness they might come more from my handholding at 1/15th, than from diffraction. I wouldn't push it too large in print, but it seems to look good enough for Web posting.

 
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For what it's worth, I am really just a snap shooter. Family, outings, biking, hiking, travel. Pretty much just whatever is around me at the time.
Sounds like you only need a good phone. :P

Even a 3 year old phone takes good photos.















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Despite owning a mountain of different cameras and formats over the years, the X10 is one of my favourite cameras ever for out of camera jpgs.
 
John, are you still there? You haven't replied to any of the posts.

I read that your main system is a Sony NEX-6 but you are "just a snap shooter" and you want to change to something simpler, right? I have to wonder why you purchased the NEX-6 system in the first place? Since you still have that camera and haven't received your X-10 yet, that maybe you should pose your question to the Sony Alpha-Nex forum. Maybe they can help you. There are several "auto" modes on the NEX-6 which make it easier to operate.
 
I think it's a great camera for the current price (mine was even less, used).

1. I think it does great low light without flash, for a smaller sensor camera. I have a lot of experience with NEX, the X10 obviously doesn't have the same high ISO quality, but I love the look of it's JPEG's. I turn noise reduction to -2, and really like the look of ISO 1600 images (haven't shot much 3200 yet.) That coupled with f/2-f/2.8 means the camera can get good looking images in pretty low light. You're not going to get the detail of a NEX, but I don't print big enlargements either so am not going to worry too much about it.

The JPEG's in general look great, that's a big plus for me as I rarely shoot RAW. Throw in some special modes for really low light, high dynamic range, etc. Finally, I really like the tonality of Fuji black and white mode- I noticed this with the X100, and the X10 seems to produce similar in-camera B&W images.

I know you mentioned you don't use flash (I normally don't either), but the X10 does great with flash, rarely overexposing like so many other cameras.

2. Vintage feel- this camera has it in spades, of course. The manual zoom/ on-off control is great.

3. The modes all seem fine, PASM plus the EXR modes (useful) and some consumer 'scene' modes (whatever).
 

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