Is that too much to ask for? 24 mm prime

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A reasonably priced, fast, fairly compact, good optical quality, 24 mm-ish prime lens for APS-C sensor. Is that too much to ask for?

Do I really have to switch to different brand (Fuji?) to get this kind of lens? frustrating.
 
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A reasonably priced, fast, fairly compact, good optical quality, 24 mm-ish prime lens for APS-C sensor. Is that too much to ask for?

Do I really have to switch to different brand (Fuji?) to get this kind of lens? frustrating.
Canon make a 24mm or 28mm f2.8 with IS and a 28mm f1.8 which isn't much different in size than the 85mm f1.8.

Is there a problem with any of those options?

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A reasonably priced, fast, fairly compact, good optical quality, 24 mm-ish prime lens for APS-C sensor. Is that too much to ask for?

Do I really have to switch to different brand (Fuji?) to get this kind of lens? frustrating.
What's so special about 24mm?

Never mind. Get the Fuji. If nothing else, you'll have tried it and stowed away that experience. .
 
The new 18-55 stm is cheap enough if you mean 35 mm wise [ 18 X 1.6 = 28.8 ] If you mean a 24 mm prime on a crop , about the closest is the 20 mm .

I have a 28 , 35 , 50 mm and 180 mm primes - the 1st 3 are covered by my 17-55 [ 18-55 II if you want cheap ]or the 28-135 and the 180 is covered by the 70-200 135-400 and / or the 70-300 .

Out of say 1000 last shots , none hit 28 , 35 , 50 mm and 180 mm .
 
A reasonably priced, fast, fairly compact, good optical quality, 24 mm-ish prime lens for APS-C sensor. Is that too much to ask for?

Do I really have to switch to different brand (Fuji?) to get this kind of lens? frustrating.
Canon make a 24mm or 28mm f2.8 with IS and a 28mm f1.8 which isn't much different in size than the 85mm f1.8.

Is there a problem with any of those options?
 
A reasonably priced, fast, fairly compact, good optical quality, 24 mm-ish prime lens for APS-C sensor. Is that too much to ask for?

Do I really have to switch to different brand (Fuji?) to get this kind of lens? frustrating.
What's so special about 24mm?

Never mind. Get the Fuji. If nothing else, you'll have tried it and stowed away that experience. .
I hear you.

24 mm prime for APSC would be good for indoors shots and environmental portraits.

Maybe I'll just get the Fuji x100s. Seems like a fine tool and fun to use.
It's going to be difficult to explain the purchase of that AND a 70d though...
 
Sigma 18-35 F 1.8
 
The Fuji 23 mm is reported to be a great lens, but it is hardly cheap.
 
A reasonably priced, fast, fairly compact, good optical quality, 24 mm-ish prime lens for APS-C sensor. Is that too much to ask for?

Do I really have to switch to different brand (Fuji?) to get this kind of lens? frustrating.
Canon make a 24mm or 28mm f2.8 with IS and a 28mm f1.8 which isn't much different in size than the 85mm f1.8.

Is there a problem with any of those options?

These may be great for FF, but I don't find f/2.8 to be fast enough for APSC.
Then your problem isn't finding fast enough lenses. Your problem is that you are putting the wrong camera behind them. This might sound flippant, but I'm quite serious. Think this through with me.

Making very fast wide glass is (a) quite expensive, (b) heavy and bulky, and (c) unlikely to be commercially viable because most people who care enough about their images to be wanting roughly what you want will either have already made the jump to 135 format (something like a 6D or 5D II body), or else be planning to make the upgrade before too long. Either way, they are not going to be buying (say) an EF/S 24mm f/1.4 prime. They will be getting the exact same framing, perspective, and depth of field from a readily available, inexpensive ($550 US) 35mm f/2 prime.

Actually, the 35/2 on a 6D is a little bit wider than a 24mm lens on APS-C, and it's a bit faster too (more DOF control) - you only need f/2.2 to match DOF with an APS-C system at f/1.4). And, of course, it's way cleaner in low light.

There is your answer - full-frame and a 35/2. Or, if you can find the extra cash, the 35/1.4L is a sheer delight to use - albeit quite expensive, so not for everyone.

PS: I hasten to add that I am not one of those annoying Full-frame Is The Answer To Everything evangelists. I own and regularly use full-frame, APS-C and APS-H bodies, and love them all - but I use different tools for different tasks as they are best suited.What you are looking to do is a natural task for a full-frame body and a 35mm prime. Go that way if you can.
 
Since you said 24mm ish, have you considered the 28mm 1.8? Obviously not quite 24mm but it is fast, relatively inexpensive and a decent lens.
 
A reasonably priced, fast, fairly compact, good optical quality, 24 mm-ish prime lens for APS-C sensor. Is that too much to ask for?

Do I really have to switch to different brand (Fuji?) to get this kind of lens? frustrating.

Fuji X is mirrorless, so 23mm doesn't have to be big complicated retrofocus design that DSLRs (APS-C or FF) require.

Canon makes a good one, the EF-M 22 f/2 STM. But it's only usable on the mirrorless EOS M.
 
Good suggestion. Even with the EOS-M attached it's smaller and lighter than most 24mm lenses. If you get it at the sale price, just as cheap too. Buy an optical viewfinder with 35mm frame lines and you're all set.
 
Thanks a lot! great suggestions everyone!

so to sum up, I have a few choices:

1. Non-canon mirrorless (Fuji or MFT)

2. go with one of the less regarded primes from sigma or canon - this wouldn't be my choice. If I give up the flexibility of the zoom I'd like to be rewarded with excellent IQ. I sold all three copies of the old sigma 30/1.4 I owned because I didn't like my results, and wouldn't like to continue with this habit.

3. go full frame with one of the new IS primes. Wow, very tempting. I'll give the 6d a second thought. I love the IQ of this camera. I am bothered by the size of the body+zoom lens combo of full frame though.

4. eos-m system with the nice little 22 mm. Very nice idea actually. I'll hold my breath for a little longer to see if Canon is presenting a third, more enthusiast oriented body. If they do I'll order one with the 22/2.

If they don't I'll either go full frame or switch to a different brand.
 
A reasonably priced, fast, fairly compact, good optical quality, 24 mm-ish prime lens for APS-C sensor. Is that too much to ask for?

Do I really have to switch to different brand (Fuji?) to get this kind of lens? frustrating.
You are comparing a DSLR with mirror less. Wide angle lenses can be constructed small only if you can place them close to the sensor plane. This is impossible with DSLRs, where you need clearance for the mirror. Wide angle lenses for DSLR are constructed as retrofocal to overcome this problem and this adds more glass and bulk.
 
3. go full frame with one of the new IS primes. Wow, very tempting. I'll give the 6d a second thought. I love the IQ of this camera. I am bothered by the size of the body+zoom lens combo of full frame though.
Given your existing gear that is mostly APS, I would be tempted to think about abandoning DSLR system altogether.
 
I use the Canon 35F2 IS for indoor low light on my 60D. If Canon made a 24F2 IS, it would be in my camera vag right now.

The 35F2 is a sharp lens, and worth considering at the current price.
 

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