My RX10

Nothing wrong about being 69 and still excited about new things. Actually, I think that's great!



However, you already have your Christmas tree up?. Now, that might be pathetic. [:>}
 
Nothing wrong about being 69 and still excited about new things. Actually, I think that's great!

However, you already have your Christmas tree up?. Now, that might be pathetic. [:>}
Indeed! But I don't have it. :)

Enrique
 
Well... how can I say it. I hate to disappoint you. I do not like it. It feels too plasticky, the zoom ring needs too many turns to go from one end to the other, and, f¡nally, I find pictures too soft for my liking. I had time to compare it only to my NEX 6 with its worst lens, the 16-50 pancake, and the RX10 is clearly softer. Same colors, less bite. So it doesn't make sense to me to compare it with the RX1 or the NEX 7. I expected an RX100 with a much better lens. Nope. So I will keep changing lenses...
Enrique
Maybe defective lens? I can believe the less bite but soft I haven't seen so far...
Soft*er*
Sorry to hear it!
On the other hand, I am 1150 euros richer. :)
Enrique
Come on, you didn't even keep it for a day to show us what you mean?!
 
Well... how can I say it. I hate to disappoint you. I do not like it. It feels too plasticky, the zoom ring needs too many turns to go from one end to the other, and, f¡nally, I find pictures too soft for my liking. I had time to compare it only to my NEX 6 with its worst lens, the 16-50 pancake, and the RX10 is clearly softer. Same colors, less bite. So it doesn't make sense to me to compare it with the RX1 or the NEX 7. I expected an RX100 with a much better lens. Nope. So I will keep changing lenses...
Enrique
Maybe defective lens? I can believe the less bite but soft I haven't seen so far...
Soft*er*
Sorry to hear it!
On the other hand, I am 1150 euros richer. :)
Enrique
Come on, you didn't even keep it for a day to show us what you mean?!
No, sorry, it didn't feel right in my hands, I dind't like how it felt, and to me this is a required condition.

Enrique
 
Well... how can I say it. I hate to disappoint you. I do not like it. It feels too plasticky, the zoom ring needs too many turns to go from one end to the other, and, f¡nally, I find pictures too soft for my liking. I had time to compare it only to my NEX 6 with its worst lens, the 16-50 pancake, and the RX10 is clearly softer. Same colors, less bite. So it doesn't make sense to me to compare it with the RX1 or the NEX 7. I expected an RX100 with a much better lens. Nope. So I will keep changing lenses...
Enrique
Maybe defective lens? I can believe the less bite but soft I haven't seen so far...
Soft*er*
Sorry to hear it!
On the other hand, I am 1150 euros richer. :)
Enrique
Come on, you didn't even keep it for a day to show us what you mean?!
No, sorry, it didn't feel right in my hands, I dind't like how it felt, and to me this is a required condition.

Enrique
Esta bien:)
 
No, sorry, it didn't feel right in my hands, I dind't like how it felt, and to me this is a required condition.

Enrique
Well, if it don't feel right it don't feel right, though you're the first i've heard say that it felt anything other than solid.

But you should really back up your imagery comments with more details or some sample, otherwise it really is just a trolling statement
 
Real surprised to hear this. However, I accept your experience as your experience. Seeing some fantastic shots posted on the Korean review, I still think this unit has potential to please. I cannot possibly help but think something was not right with this particular unit's glass or something.

However, this does not change your own personal sense of being unsatisfied with the basic feel and mechanical operation of the rings and so forth. This also is quite surprising, since the basic camera body and heft and feel is an area almost all reviewers comment on as being strong and sturdy and nicely manufactured.

Oh, well.
 
Real surprised to hear this. However, I accept your experience as your experience. Seeing some fantastic shots posted on the Korean review, I still think this unit has potential to please. I cannot possibly help but think something was not right with this particular unit's glass or something.
I don't think there was anything wrong with this camera. Reviewers were wiser than me and didn't expect great IQ out of a 1'' sensor and an 8x zoom. Results are similar in IQ to the RX100, which is very decent, but I expected more from that lens. My mistake, I had lost perspective.
However, this does not change your own personal sense of being unsatisfied with the basic feel and mechanical operation of the rings and so forth. This also is quite surprising, since the basic camera body and heft and feel is an area almost all reviewers comment on as being strong and sturdy and nicely manufactured.
This is very subjective. My disappointment started right out of the box, as soon as I handled the camera for the first time. As I said before, too much plastic for my taste. Maybe because I'm used to the RX1 and NEX 7. It didn't feel to me like an RX camera. Aside from this, I just didn't feel comfortable with the RX10. Personal stuff.
Oh, well.
Yep.

Enrique
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Jerry (Gerald L. Stevens)
 
Very interesting comments... I still use my R1 too, along with my A77 and NEX 6... I have always felt the R1 was to be unique in its design, performance, usability and on and on...

Are you suggesting the new RX 10 does not have that same heft and feel? I agree... If it doesn't feel good, I cannot attach to it...

thanks. I look forward to hearing other comments.

rrce
 
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But you should really back up your imagery comments with more details or some sample, otherwise it really is just a trolling statement
No need to be offensive.

When someone describes his expectations, his own anticipation and then quickly and gently shows his let-down that is not trolling.

Nor does anyone need to provide proof to you of their reasons for retuning a camera, do they?
 
But you should really back up your imagery comments with more details or some sample, otherwise it really is just a trolling statement
No need to be offensive.

When someone describes his expectations, his own anticipation and then quickly and gently shows his let-down that is not trolling.

Nor does anyone need to provide proof to you of their reasons for retuning a camera, do they?

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Cheers ;-)
Trevor G
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Thanks Trevor.

Enrique
 
Not sure what all this backlash is about, Enri was never called a troll nor was he attacked by one. I pushed for more clarification and/or samples to clarify his initial statements. He has since detailed more about why he felt the camera fell short of his expectations,... all good.

If just the mention of the "T" word on these forums is a cause of anguish, then i apologize Enri if you felt it to be an implied insult.
 
Well... how can I say it. I hate to disappoint you. I do not like it. It feels too plasticky, the zoom ring needs too many turns to go from one end to the other, and, f¡nally, I find pictures too soft for my liking. I had time to compare it only to my NEX 6 with its worst lens, the 16-50 pancake, and the RX10 is clearly softer. Same colors, less bite. So it doesn't make sense to me to compare it with the RX1 or the NEX 7. I expected an RX100 with a much better lens. Nope. So I will keep changing lenses...
Enrique
Interesting,

I definitely agree about the zoom ring, but OK for fine tuning. Rocker is faster but not as fast as manual.

I think you mentioned about feel in the hand later on, and I agree that the grip is a bit shallow for my fingers so it doesn't fit like glove. Good but not as good as I have experienced.

However, "Plasticky" is completely at odds with my experience, and I come for a working background using Nikon D700, and before that EOS 1D. Reviews all mention solid quality feel, opposite of plasticky.

And the softness issue is also completely the opposite of my experience with the RX10. I have been delighted by this aspect, not just the lens but the reliability of the focus system in nailing focus. However I have not done much with continuous AF on moving subjects yet. Were you trying AFC or AFS? If AFS, I am tempted, as someone else implied, to suggest that you may have had a lemon.

in spite of all the objective factors about a camera, one quickly gets a feel for a camera, and if you don't like it no-one can say you are wrong. I have really disliked some raved about cameras.
 
Well... how can I say it. I hate to disappoint you. I do not like it. It feels too plasticky, the zoom ring needs too many turns to go from one end to the other, and, f¡nally, I find pictures too soft for my liking. I had time to compare it only to my NEX 6 with its worst lens, the 16-50 pancake, and the RX10 is clearly softer. Same colors, less bite. So it doesn't make sense to me to compare it with the RX1 or the NEX 7. I expected an RX100 with a much better lens. Nope. So I will keep changing lenses...
Enrique
Maybe defective lens? I can believe the less bite but soft I haven't seen so far...
Soft*er*
You mean it's softer than the Zeiss Otus?:)

Seriously though, my impression is that it's noticeably sharper than the RX100 lens. The quality upgrade is most certainly evident in the corners.
 
I was dissapointed in the OP's opinion of this camera in relation to its feel in the hand. I had an R1 and loved the design, the heft and the quality feel. I always thought with its swivel screen and wonderful lens that it was a design icon. Mine eventually succumbed to fungus growth in the lens. I also wanted a longer reach. So imagine my delight when the RX10 with its constant 2.8 came onto the scene.

This morning I went to my local camera shop and held one new from the box. Like Enrique I was disappointed with the feel of the camera in my hand. The body plastic seemed thin in comparison to my old R1, even flimsy by comparison. The pull out screen was weedy and the hinges did not feel up to the job. In short it was not what a £1049 camera should feel like.

And then I had a reality check.

I wanted a camera with this specification for trekking. It fitted into my bum-bag, which I had with me, and that meant it would always be to hand when needed and not in my back pack. It was light enough to carry. The viewfinder was spectacular. The focus was fast enough for my needs. The switches all clicked in a tight well put together fashion. The milled lens focus ring turned smoothly if somewhat slowly. In short, while I wasn't over enamoured by the form I was impressed by the function. And I reasoned that if they built a shell to match the R1 with the lens in the RX10 I would need a trolley to carry it.

I do sympathise with Enrique and can fully understand his view on taking this camera out of the box and handling it for the first time. My immediate knee-jerk reaction was to dismiss the camera out of hand but since having had time to reflect I will go back to the shop with a SD card and take some photos, after all, this is what it's all about.

If the photos and reviews are good then I will learn to live with it's outer shell as it does in all other aspects fulfil my requirements. If I do take the plunge I hope I don't drop it on the Camino del Norte next year, as I feel it will not have the resilience of the R1 that my clumsy hands let slip on more than one occasion.

So it was not love at first sight, but then again, true love rarely is.
 

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