Fredrik Glckner
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No offence, but I am wondering why you bought into MFT in the first place, if you are interested in full frame DSLR cameras.
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Nikon Df - I'm really tempted to sell my M43-gear.
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mferencz
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I think you should switch up and get the Nikon. Anytime somebody puts up a post saying they are considering switching have already made up the mind to do so. Another thing I learned is that once a mind is made up there isn't a anybody that can talk you out of it.
The Nikon looks cool as hell, but its a big camera with big lenses. Why on earth did you go to M43 to begin with? I would imagine it's size and conveniance factor? Suddenly is that of no value to you? I say keep both or hold off on the Nikon until they get serious about size and mirrorless, because it's lucky this camera looks like its from the 70's because it will be sitting with those cameras on a shelf very quickly.
The Nikon looks cool as hell, but its a big camera with big lenses. Why on earth did you go to M43 to begin with? I would imagine it's size and conveniance factor? Suddenly is that of no value to you? I say keep both or hold off on the Nikon until they get serious about size and mirrorless, because it's lucky this camera looks like its from the 70's because it will be sitting with those cameras on a shelf very quickly.
Art_P
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Get the Nikon, but keep at least some of your m43 kit.
The Nikon appeals to you visually, may indeed be quite competent, but you may still want a smaller camera & lenses for every day use...
And you don't have to get it immediately, Wait a bit (while saving up for it) and get it on sale, and you'll be able to swing the purchase w/o liquidating all your m43 gear.
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Art P
"I am a creature of contrast,
of light and shadow.
I live where the two play together,
I thrive on the conflict"
The Nikon appeals to you visually, may indeed be quite competent, but you may still want a smaller camera & lenses for every day use...
And you don't have to get it immediately, Wait a bit (while saving up for it) and get it on sale, and you'll be able to swing the purchase w/o liquidating all your m43 gear.
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Art P
"I am a creature of contrast,
of light and shadow.
I live where the two play together,
I thrive on the conflict"
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cheddargav
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I mean, why are we debating anything if it's not up to us to decide?? Lol.
IMO, it's hugely overpriced and is comparable to those horrible Hasselblad NEX-a-likes. They've removed many features and gave it a stonkingly high price! Had they put it on the market for £1399 then maybe it would be a justifiable purchase!
I bet Sony are smiling anyway, makes the A7/r look like bargains
Art_P
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maybe a couple. But just because it is a camera you dream of doesn't mean others have the same dream... ort a draw of Nikon lenses looking for a body.
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Jon Ragnarsson
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I was intrigued at first, but the more I read about it, it seems that Nikon didn't have the courage of making a truly compact retro/simple DSLR body.
MarcusBrody
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Art_P
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Wouldn't be surprised if it drops in price by next Christmas. Especially if it doesn't sell well. Of course, there is always the chance they release it as a limited run to keep the price high.
i used to make fun of the Hasselblads, having never seen one in real life. I saw one in the Amsterdam airport a couple of weeks ago, and i must say that it is impressive. when you see a NEX in a store it's usually in a relatively small window along with other cameras. the Hasselblad was in its own window, up to my eye level (or slightly higher), and it also had the retail box below it. which is not really a box, but more like a nice looking aluminum case. the price tag did not look out of place, i must say. yes, it is overpriced for what it truly is, but the presentation was so that it seemed to be worth it.
i am comparing this against the Leica M9s i saw in the stores (well, pretty much the same store with different locations really), which just looked ugly and bloated. i've handled film cameras that were more appealing. yes, they were cheaper, but we're talking about really expensive cameras going after a similar type of buyer.
if Nikon can make it feel like a premium product, they might have a chance to sell it close to the MSRP. if they just dump it in a display case along with 2-3 other cameras and a few lenses it will not achieve its goal. and the goal of this particular camera is to look good. otherwise it would have a 36 MP sensor. which is should have anyway. i have 16MP on my m4/3 camera, a FF camera should offer more.
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slimandy
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The only camera to have that sensor so far is Nikon flagship pro camera, the D4; relatively speaking the Df is quite small.
Bobo Hodls
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Too large, and too late. It's sort of what I was looking for 3-4 years ago when I was getting tired of FF DSLRs.
But it is quite the attention getter.
But it is quite the attention getter.
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...until owners go lens shopping.
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larsbc
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Actually, it will be the enthusiast photographers who determine if that camera is a success, not the shareholders. The shareholders will only react based on whether the camera is profitable or not.
larsbc
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That last thing I'd want is a camera designed with the same philosophy as an Apple product.
Not a chance. M43 users aren't here because they were hoping for a smaller APS-C body. They wanted a smaller system. And many of us actually LIKE electronic finders.
You've already bought into the wrong system if that's all it takes for you to switch.
Godfrey
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might be nice to use, but it sure isn't "pretty" … looks like a modern retro Camaro: it has some of its classic forebears' line, but it's all bloated and festooned with gee-gaws. To my eye, the chrome is particularly ugly looking. or rather, "industrial faux".Still, im a sucker for retrostuff and the Nikon Df shows great potential - especially with the new retro 50mm f/1.8G which will be released as a kitlens. What do you think about the looks?
but if it works right and is good in the hands, it could be very nice.
(Note that I've still got a couple of Nikon Fs and a small brace of very nice Nikkor lenses, including the Nikkor 50mm f/1.2 AI-S you see mounted on the camera above. If you're not aware, that's one big, meaty, heavy lens—it alone weighs almost as much as the E-M1 body. The DF is not a small camera, it's not svelte at all like the E-M5 or E-M1, or even the Nikon FM or F3 that it takes design cues from.)
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Terry Breedlove
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The perfect match to my little EM-5. When I need or want that full frame look and fantastic low light performance the Df gives me that plus the looks to match my little silver wonder camera EM-5. I already have some great Nikon glass and even an SB 900 Speed light. So I wil never sell my little Oly and in fact would still use it more than the big Nikon but the two together would be a nice pair to own. Or I could buy the EM-1 and a fast 25 mm 0.95 lens and be just as happy.
rpm40
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Were they going for the snootiest product shot humanly possible? I'm not even sure Leica owners still use pocket watches and fountain pens.
On top of it all, isn't that the wrong time period to fit in a body emulating 70s style? Lets see some stylish leisure suited photogs putting it to use...
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