GR and Sigmas

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I had been using the Sigma DP2 Merrill and DP3 Merrill almost exclusively as of late. To my eye, the foveon output and the excellent lenses produce some quite elegant images. I do a fair bit of printing at A3, and I've been quite happy with the output. While they're very nice cameras, they are limited in their operational versatility. They're more useful than they're made out to be; it just requires some practice to work to their strengths and to compensate for their weaknesses. However, I felt that I was encountering circumstance often enough when I wanted something smaller and more versatile in lower light that I decided to give the GR a try. I'm familiar with the GRD IV, which I owned for a while and rather liked. Getting the GR to deal with lower light photography helpfully forestalls a more complicated decision about whether to build up a more versatile, weatherised system around the Pentax K-3 or something like it.

So, the GR arrived not too long ago, and I've been very pleased with it. I find it a little easier to handle than the GRD IV. TAv mode is a great idea, especially since I use the camera mostly for B&W photography and the higher ISO pictures convert nicely. I've posted a few photos below.

Since many people compare the GR to the Sigmas, I'll just reiterate something that people in this forum say. They're quite different cameras. The GR has excellent output, but it difficult to describe just how much more there is to work with from a favourably exposed Sigma file. At the same time, I'd describe the GR as effortless to use, and it's very appealing for situations to which the DPxMs aren't well suited. The three cameras I now own have a combined weight of just under 1 kilogram. They share batteries, and they can be kitted out with useful accessories with out much additional weight. I may try the GW-3 eventually, which would add a fourth useful focal length at little weight penalty. I'm looking forward to trying out the trio on some upcoming trips. Based on past experiences with the Sigmas, I think this may turn out to be quite a nice way to have some photographic options at a very light total weight.

A few pictures:















 
Thanks for the images and the camera comparisons. I have never felt the need to try Sigma. I like cameras that sing along the same tune with me rather than harder to master but brilliant if you ever do.

The fact that the batteries are interchangeable is a great under-rated logistical benefit than more camera manufacturers should emulate. Despite trying to keep my batteries and chargers "universal" I still have a box of chargers and a "charger station". And yet with every new wonder-cam iis analysed in microscopic detail from its looks, to the imaages it takes, how well it works with RF lenses, sample pictures digested and pucked over with microscopes. But nary a word mentioned about whether the camera hides yet another new style of incompatible battery system. It is a bit like asking the new car salesman about the price of spare parts and routine services.
 
Thanks for the images and the camera comparisons. I have never felt the need to try Sigma. I like cameras that sing along the same tune with me rather than harder to master but brilliant if you ever do.

The fact that the batteries are interchangeable is a great under-rated logistical benefit than more camera manufacturers should emulate. Despite trying to keep my batteries and chargers "universal" I still have a box of chargers and a "charger station". And yet with every new wonder-cam iis analysed in microscopic detail from its looks, to the imaages it takes, how well it works with RF lenses, sample pictures digested and pucked over with microscopes. But nary a word mentioned about whether the camera hides yet another new style of incompatible battery system. It is a bit like asking the new car salesman about the price of spare parts and routine services.

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Tom Caldwell
The ability to use the same batteries across all three cameras is indeed a real plus.

No need to use a camera that you don't like. Speaking just for myself, the combination of a DPxM at one's preferred focal length(s) and the GR makes for a travel kit that offers quite a lot of photographic value per ounce of weight. It's not a very useful way to go, however, for people who need more speed at longer focal lengths. For some trips and purposes, I hope eventually to add a K-3, or something like it, with a good quality longer zoom; I'm happy enough to spend the extra money just yet.
 
Thanks for the images and the camera comparisons. I have never felt the need to try Sigma. I like cameras that sing along the same tune with me rather than harder to master but brilliant if you ever do.

The fact that the batteries are interchangeable is a great under-rated logistical benefit than more camera manufacturers should emulate. Despite trying to keep my batteries and chargers "universal" I still have a box of chargers and a "charger station". And yet with every new wonder-cam iis analysed in microscopic detail from its looks, to the imaages it takes, how well it works with RF lenses, sample pictures digested and pucked over with microscopes. But nary a word mentioned about whether the camera hides yet another new style of incompatible battery system. It is a bit like asking the new car salesman about the price of spare parts and routine services.
 
WOW! I'm not the only one :-)

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I'm about to buy the DP1M and DP2M, but are waiting because of the price drop. Soon I will have them all... The 10th. battery is inside the GR...
 
WOW! I'm not the only one :-)

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I'm about to buy the DP1M and DP2M, but are waiting because of the price drop. Soon I will have them all... The 10th. battery is inside the GR...
I envy your cheaper purchasing price! I don't know about the DP1M, but the DP2M renders quite beautifully.

I'm very pleased with the Ricoh's output, too. Amazing what one can get with a small digital camera now.
 
Cheaper? No, no, no... The DPxM series costs about 900Euro/1210USD here were I live. If I buy, I may consider buying from amazon.jp and then I will save about 274Euro/270USD pr. camera. The downside is warranty, here we have good warranty and complaint right's and it might be worth the extra money.
 
Yep I have the same trio than you have GR, dp2m, dp3m .. I took the first two on a trip to Japan along with my GXR

I have nine sigma and ricoh batteries and three chargers all all of this is VERY compact

Harold
 

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