Where do you come up with this crap? How on earth is EM1 lower class than K-3, apart from smaller 4/3 sensor?
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em-1 vs Pentax
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And 1/320 flash sync (with is better than K-3)
External battery grip (K-50 has a grip?)
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Magnesium alloy (dust, splash and freeze proof). dials, buttons, manual control These specs are that of typical prosumers high-end camera
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Jim in Hudson
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So with continuous AF fps is lower than K-3, but fps is higher than K-3 with AF fixed at first shot. Don't tell me it's not useful. Faster fps is useful when your subject is not moving towards or away from the camera (like baseball batter). It's useful when you are shooting in multi-shot mode (like HDR, multi shot NR, bracketing) where you don't want the focus to change between shots.
If that's your argument that it's "lower" class, then K-3 must be "lower" class than A77 as that camera does 12 fps with continuous AF.
EM1 did pretty good in DPR review ..
Same point made twice.
And lower flash sync on K-3 (1/180 vs 1/320 )
No WB Bracketing on K-3
No tilt screen on K-3
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viking79
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Nah, they (dpreview) just make up classes when they want to and don't hold firm to their own classes. For example the pentax K-30 got knocked because it's battery life is only 410 CIPA rated, and they said in the cons 'Poor battery life compared to its peers', however the E-M1 has a battery life of 350 (CIPA), yet there is nothing in the cons about this. Therefore DSLR's cannot be it's peers, otherwise how can the K-30 get a con but the E-M1 not?
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K-30 had a lower battery life compared to other OVF cameras, so yes that would be a legitimate con. EM1 battery life is typical for liveview/EVF cameras. This isn't a camera specific con but general OVF vs EVF con and applies to all cameras, including K-3 when shooting in liveview mode.
fakuryu
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Don't know if a Pentax/Ricoh rep stole his wife/gf or whatever, but every time there is a Pentax post comparing it to whatever no matter how silly it is (K01 vs A7R aesthetics), as sure as sunrise, he will be there.
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This is for old 4/3 lenses (not current m4/3 lenses, rather for legacy lenses).
Again, this is for old 4/3 lenses.
Newer lenses will be much much faster even for continuous AF/Tracking, see my quote on where they were comparing it to pro level cameras.
Here is AF-S Example using a current lens:
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Zvonimir Tosic
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EM1 may be fabulous and everything, and even lucrative to a typical Canon or Nikon DSLR user, but to me — a Pentax user with a collection of small and beautiful lenses — Olympus has nothing to offer I don't already have, and more finely made, if I may add.
The quality of Pentax craftsmanship in this industry is second to only to Leica, (perhaps only in lens department) but in camera quality and construction, I think Pentax is best among them all.
I understand the appeal for new Olympus cameras among other DSLR users because their systems are not as sophisticated nor optimised nor cleverly designed as Pentax system ... but to me, I take a look at Olympus cameras now and then out of curiosity, and every time I see no appeal.
For those who like cameras with EVFs to substitute their own eyes, well, yes, go for EM1.
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The quality of Pentax craftsmanship in this industry is second to only to Leica, (perhaps only in lens department) but in camera quality and construction, I think Pentax is best among them all.
I understand the appeal for new Olympus cameras among other DSLR users because their systems are not as sophisticated nor optimised nor cleverly designed as Pentax system ... but to me, I take a look at Olympus cameras now and then out of curiosity, and every time I see no appeal.
For those who like cameras with EVFs to substitute their own eyes, well, yes, go for EM1.
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“A portrait is not made in the camera, but on either side of it.”
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You're right - how could you ever take a decent picture with a u4/3 camera that has more dynamic range than any Canon APS-C camera ever produced not to mention the current full frame 6D?
Depending on shooting style, that would also apply to EM1, I am sure. If you shoot continuous 10 fps it would go to 2000 shots, probably. Besides, EM1 has external grip that will triple battery life.
britcam
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I am sure that you are right with your conclusions about flash and AF capability for the K5. After all, there have been countless threads on these same points by Pentax users if you care to search....
However things have moved on somewhat in AF terms with the recent K5II & K5IIs models. AF is quick and accurate even in very low light. I know because I use a K5iis and did indeed have a K5 (Mk 1 - if we can call it that) With the K3, things are taken to a higher level still, to bring Pentax right in line I would suggest with Olympus and other brands. Of course full reviews and user tests still have to be done, but I find it's getting rather stale to dismiss Pentax for a poor performing three year old design. Ricoh stewardship is bringing new investment and new light on Pentax I think you'll find. Now if only Olympus had not led 4/3 owners to a very sad end, up the creek and with only half a paddle, then I might have more confidence in the brand ... Thankfully the writing was very much on the wall three years ago and I baled out. As for the EM-1, it's a fine camera, though it comes at a very cost and I'm not sure that rattlesnaking and blackout is quite my cup of tea. Call me a fanboy, and obvious holes still need to be addressed in the lineup, but Pentax seems to be managing to do things rather well these days ...
However things have moved on somewhat in AF terms with the recent K5II & K5IIs models. AF is quick and accurate even in very low light. I know because I use a K5iis and did indeed have a K5 (Mk 1 - if we can call it that) With the K3, things are taken to a higher level still, to bring Pentax right in line I would suggest with Olympus and other brands. Of course full reviews and user tests still have to be done, but I find it's getting rather stale to dismiss Pentax for a poor performing three year old design. Ricoh stewardship is bringing new investment and new light on Pentax I think you'll find. Now if only Olympus had not led 4/3 owners to a very sad end, up the creek and with only half a paddle, then I might have more confidence in the brand ... Thankfully the writing was very much on the wall three years ago and I baled out. As for the EM-1, it's a fine camera, though it comes at a very cost and I'm not sure that rattlesnaking and blackout is quite my cup of tea. Call me a fanboy, and obvious holes still need to be addressed in the lineup, but Pentax seems to be managing to do things rather well these days ...
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