Would G3 users buy it

I'm amazed by the interest shown in this thread. Either way, fact
or fiction, my question is would any G3 owners pay money to upgrade
to the claimed new G5 with very little more to offer?

Myself, I researched many camera optoions prior to going for the G3
and even with the obvious and much discussed improvements we all
may feel could be incorpoated in the next generation.
Im well satisfied with my G3 and would hope to have at least 3
years use before looking to replace it.

Maybe by this time the way the maket trends goes we could be
looking at a complete range of new cameras.

It would be intesting to hear others votes here....... YES/NO

My Vote is NO
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Canon G3/I950
 
From a G3, No, but if you did not have a G3 yet and the differences
between the G3 and G5 were 5MP vs 4MP and a black housing, but
otherwise same ergonomics (think S50 vs S45) how much difference
(if any) would there have to be in the prices before you bought the
G3 not the G5, and why?
Hard for me to say since my entry into the world of digicams was the G3. Basically, the G3 was the closest DC I could find which met my projected wants/needs. And I've been quite happy with it. I would wish for faster autofocus, but seldom have a problem with it focusing. I also would prefer the VF to not be blocked as it is with the 52mm Lensmate or naked, for that matter.

As great as the LCD is, I find it limited outside in bright light. And at my age, i have to use reading glasses to really see it in any light to get the info presented there. But that would be a problem with most any LCD.
If you had a G2, would you now upgrade, given the above
assumptions?
Nope.
How about from a G1?
Maybe.
Re: the Nikon 5400, while the 28mm is nice, it is a S-L-O-W
f/2.8-4.6 (at relatively short 116mm) lens, a small LCD on the
back, and lacks (apparently) RAW mode. On the other hand it has a
close focus of 1cm [0.4 inch], though a ring light might be needed
at those distances. Depends on intended application. Now if it
could do f/2-3.2 say at that zoom range, or perhaps 4.5X
(28mm-126mm) and f/2.0-4.0 or so; and had RAW capacity...
I didn't realize the lens was so slow. I haven't perused the specs on it. What I'd like is the lens from the Minolta 7i or Hi or whatever... 28mm - 200mm. The new Nikon would be more attractive with a longer optical zoom. I haven't used RAW yet, so that has little attraction to me.

To sum it up, the G3 still fits the bill in too many ways to consider any other current offerings, imo.
 
There are some things that would strongly tempt me to replace my G3, but an extra megapixel definitely isn't one of them.

What would tempt me?

Faster, better autofocus in low light, with telephoto, & moving subjects
Smaller, more ergonomic, and better balanced body
Precise manual focus control
Higher ISO speeds with low noise
No arbitrary shutter speed limits in Av mode
Reflective LCD viewfinder to allow viewing in direct sunlight
Improved command dial precision and responsiveness
More than 2 custom setting modes
Backlit data display
Useful battery life indicator
Improved optical viewfinder with integrated data display
Multi-spot average exposure mode
 
new G5 with very little more to offer?[ quote}

How do you know this ?? Have you actually read the specs at a Canon web site?
I'm amazed by the interest shown in this thread. Either way, fact
or fiction, my question is would any G3 owners pay money to upgrade
to the claimed new G5 with very little more to offer?

Myself, I researched many camera optoions prior to going for the G3
and even with the obvious and much discussed improvements we all
may feel could be incorpoated in the next generation.
Im well satisfied with my G3 and would hope to have at least 3
years use before looking to replace it.

Maybe by this time the way the maket trends goes we could be
looking at a complete range of new cameras.

It would be intesting to hear others votes here....... YES/NO

My Vote is NO
 
You forgot to ask Santa for an Optical Image Stabiliser and a 12 x optical zoom..... BOTH of which can be found on the Panasonic Lumix DMC FZ1 (#?) which is currently on the market.

Bring 'em on and I won't flinch when it comes to purchase price.

Cheers!
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Marco Nero.
http://www.pbase.com/nero_design
 
I would like those you listed plus :
  • a Live Histogram
  • ability to get info on focal length, subject distance, etc..
Do DSLR's have this already? If so, then forget the next G series.
There are some things that would strongly tempt me to replace my
G3, but an extra megapixel definitely isn't one of them.

What would tempt me?

Faster, better autofocus in low light, with telephoto, & moving
subjects
Smaller, more ergonomic, and better balanced body
Precise manual focus control
Higher ISO speeds with low noise
No arbitrary shutter speed limits in Av mode
Reflective LCD viewfinder to allow viewing in direct sunlight
Improved command dial precision and responsiveness
More than 2 custom setting modes
Backlit data display
Useful battery life indicator
Improved optical viewfinder with integrated data display
Multi-spot average exposure mode
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Peter Flor
Canon G3
http://www.pbase.com/allegro917
 
I await the pic you can post with you taking a picure in the mirror of the fool and your G5!
 
Of course G3 owners should NOT buy it... we digital camera folks are upgrading WAY too much, for incredibly little value... I do it all the time too. My relatives love me, I am supplying all of them with cheap "old" (as in 6 months old) digital cameras.

The G3 takes GREAT pictures, has a fast lense, full manual controls, etc. What is it that would drive you to upgrade an faster than 3 years or so. We have to get out of this "upgrade on every new cycle approach".... or, I guess just be honest with ourselves.... it's not really about getting better pictures, it's about having a new toy. I guess that's alright too, but lets at least be honest about it !!

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Sony 717, Canon S400, Canon S900 Printer, Canon S40 (Wife), Sony NZ90 PDA w/ 2 meg camera (kid), Olympus C2000 (Dog)
 
I agree with you about the new toys part. However, if you are someone who has the extra money or you can get a decent price for your used G3 then it's not such a bad thing. I was tempted when the 10D came out. I had a really nice Canon 28-135 IS lens just sitting waiting for it. I had a Rebel Ti camera that I was going to sell. Reality finally sank in and $1500 was just too much money and really I was quite satisfied with my G3. I cured my problem and sold all of my film equipment on Ebay 2 weeks ago.

Todd
Of course G3 owners should NOT buy it... we digital camera folks
are upgrading WAY too much, for incredibly little value... I do it
all the time too. My relatives love me, I am supplying all of them
with cheap "old" (as in 6 months old) digital cameras.

The G3 takes GREAT pictures, has a fast lense, full manual
controls, etc. What is it that would drive you to upgrade an
faster than 3 years or so. We have to get out of this "upgrade on
every new cycle approach".... or, I guess just be honest with
ourselves.... it's not really about getting better pictures, it's
about having a new toy. I guess that's alright too, but lets at
least be honest about it !!

--
Sony 717, Canon S400, Canon S900 Printer, Canon S40 (Wife), Sony
NZ90 PDA w/ 2 meg camera (kid), Olympus C2000 (Dog)
--
http://www.pbase.com/blade35
 
No, I limited my list to things I think are do-able with current technology without changing the essential nature and price point of the G3.

A 12x zoom lens would make the G3 much larger, much more expensive, and would prevent the use of an optical viewfinder. So while it would be nice to have, I would not be willing to accept the necessary compromises, and I suspect a lot of others wouldn't either. I don't think Canon wants to tamper with the G3's winning formula to please a small segment of its users. I wouldn't mind a separate, long zoom variant of the G3 though, for those who really need it that badly.

The Panasonic camera you refer to is interesting, I guess, but it can't even begin to compare with the G3 or any similar camera...

For starters, it's only a 2 megapixel camera, for crying out loud. Combine that with the Panasonic name, and you really just can't compare it with a Canon G3.

It's surprisingly small, but again, that's due to its tiny CCD and other limited components. It has an f2.8 lens, which is very fast at telephoto, but quite slow at normal focal lengths, which is where I do most of my shooting. It uses a tiny 680 mAh battery which can't compare with the G3's 8Wh battery - almost 12 times its capacity. The 12x IS zoom lens certainly sounds impressive, but it eliminates the optical viewfinder, which means it will be virtually unusable in very dim light or for tracking and shooting moving subjects. It uses SD memory cards instead of CF cards, which means high prices and limited capacities. And this camera doesn't even have manual exposire controls!

So again, interesting camera, but not really something to compare to a serious camera like the G3.
You forgot to ask Santa for an Optical Image Stabiliser and a 12 x
optical zoom..... BOTH of which can be found on the Panasonic Lumix
DMC FZ1 (#?) which is currently on the market.

Bring 'em on and I won't flinch when it comes to purchase price.

Cheers!
--
Marco Nero.
http://www.pbase.com/nero_design
 
I would like those you listed plus :
  • a Live Histogram
  • ability to get info on focal length, subject distance, etc..
Yeah, I knew I must have left some things out. A focal length display would be very important for me as well.
Do DSLR's have this already? If so, then forget the next G series.
Why? They're two completely different things.

Aside from the considerable added cost of a digital SLR, you have to consider the size issue. As much as I'd love to play around with an SLR, the fact remains that it would spend most of its time at home, because I would not want to lug it around everywhere I go - something I have no problem doing with the G3.

We definitely need some improvements to the G3, without abandoning the smaller form factor. If anything, I want the G3 to get smaller - ideally like the Olympus 5050z.
 
new G5 with very little more to offer?[ quote}

How do you know this ?? Have you actually read the specs at a
Canon web site?
C'mon guys... get real. There isn't the slightest hint of credible information about a G4, which I would expect to be announced by August or September, let alone a G5.

Can't you tell a hoax when you see one? Especially such a crudely constructed one?
 
Of course G3 owners should NOT buy it... we digital camera folks
are upgrading WAY too much, for incredibly little value... I do it
all the time too. My relatives love me, I am supplying all of them
with cheap "old" (as in 6 months old) digital cameras.
Instead of giving your cameras away to relatives, sell them on ebay, where there are plenty of suckers willing to pay top dollar for them.
The G3 takes GREAT pictures, has a fast lense, full manual
controls, etc. What is it that would drive you to upgrade an
faster than 3 years or so.
The items I listed in my message above.
 
I would not have a problem with a G3 to 10D upgrade... that's significant!!
Todd
Of course G3 owners should NOT buy it... we digital camera folks
are upgrading WAY too much, for incredibly little value... I do it
all the time too. My relatives love me, I am supplying all of them
with cheap "old" (as in 6 months old) digital cameras.

The G3 takes GREAT pictures, has a fast lense, full manual
controls, etc. What is it that would drive you to upgrade an
faster than 3 years or so. We have to get out of this "upgrade on
every new cycle approach".... or, I guess just be honest with
ourselves.... it's not really about getting better pictures, it's
about having a new toy. I guess that's alright too, but lets at
least be honest about it !!

--
Sony 717, Canon S400, Canon S900 Printer, Canon S40 (Wife), Sony
NZ90 PDA w/ 2 meg camera (kid), Olympus C2000 (Dog)
--
http://www.pbase.com/blade35
--

Sony 717, Canon S400, Canon S900 Printer, Canon S40 (Wife), Sony NZ90 PDA w/ 2 meg camera (kid), Olympus C2000 (Dog)
 
We definitely need some improvements to the G3, without abandoning
the smaller form factor. If anything, I want the G3 to get smaller
  • ideally like the Olympus 5050z.
Agreed. If I were to buy something else today, it would likely be the S400 (to go along with the G3, not replace it!)
 

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