What's the deal with Adobe's Photoshop Offer

Sammy Yousef said:

Sammy Yousef wrote:

So let me see if I've got this right.

In a nutshell: you keep paying or the software stops working until you pay again.

The applications still live on your PC/Mac. It essentially works as a re-activation procedure every 30 days. Your files still on your own computer. You don't need a net connection to use it, onlyto validate/activate every 30 days.

http://www.adobe.com/au/products/creativecloud/faq.html

There may be some "cloud" features which means you'll be able to store or share photos online (kinda like the gallery here does with JPG, but we'll add lots of fancy marketing).

If you don't upgrade to this model, forget processing RAW images with ACR from new cameras, and forget any new features.

I know I'll be shouted down for this, but here's how I read the Creative Cloud proposition:

"We promise to milk every last cent we think we can get away with, and promise you nothing except that you can keep paying. Meanwhile you'll run your application as long as we allow you to and you follow our rules. We will continue this until our product has no worth and everyone has cancelled their subscription."

Assuming their security doesn't become foolproof and the security isn't broken, this won't affect pirates. It'll annoy the hell out of honest users. Those that can find compatible apps will use it on and off, or give up after a while and use a 3rd party app to open the files (until/unless they lock down the format as well).

You can probably guess I'm not interested. I would be surprised if this model works out for them, but then again I remember when bottled water took off I thought "who the hell would pay for that when you can get it for next to nothing from a tap" and was unpleasantly surprised. Clearly I'm not a good predictor for what people will buy or put up with.

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Sammy.
My forum postings reflect my own opinions and not those of my employer. I'm not employed in the photo business.

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JJMacks said:

JJMacks wrote:

JJMacks said:

Bajerunner wrote:

If it is not in writing and explicit, it does not apply, that is a simple rule I have learned in life and business....

No one can give you a guarantee but the software supplier, in writing and explicit, if it is not, there is none.

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This is what is in writing Remember the offer ends December 31, 2013 what does the renewal term mean "renew your contract based on the current price of the offering." Adobe sales could not tell me. If Adobe sales doesn't know who then.

Renewal
After the first 12 months, we will automatically renew your contract based on the current price of the offering.

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Sammy Yousef said:

Sammy Yousef wrote:

So let me see if I've got this right.

In a nutshell: you keep paying or the software stops working until you pay again.

The applications still live on your PC/Mac. It essentially works as a re-activation procedure every 30 days. Your files still on your own computer. You don't need a net connection to use it, onlyto validate/activate every 30 days.

http://www.adobe.com/au/products/creativecloud/faq.html

There may be some "cloud" features which means you'll be able to store or share photos online (kinda like the gallery here does with JPG, but we'll add lots of fancy marketing).

If you don't upgrade to this model, forget processing RAW images with ACR from new cameras, and forget any new features.

I know I'll be shouted down for this, but here's how I read the Creative Cloud proposition:

"We promise to milk every last cent we think we can get away with, and promise you nothing except that you can keep paying. Meanwhile you'll run your application as long as we allow you to and you follow our rules. We will continue this until our product has no worth and everyone has cancelled their subscription."

Assuming their security doesn't become foolproof and the security isn't broken, this won't affect pirates. It'll annoy the hell out of honest users. Those that can find compatible apps will use it on and off, or give up after a while and use a 3rd party app to open the files (until/unless they lock down the format as well).

You can probably guess I'm not interested. I would be surprised if this model works out for them, but then again I remember when bottled water took off I thought "who the hell would pay for that when you can get it for next to nothing from a tap" and was unpleasantly surprised. Clearly I'm not a good predictor for what people will buy or put up with.

--

Sammy.
My forum postings reflect my own opinions and not those of my employer. I'm not employed in the photo business.

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Member said:

Bajerunner wrote:

Member said:

JJMacks wrote:

Member said:

Bajerunner wrote:

If it is not in writing and explicit, it does not apply, that is a simple rule I have learned in life and business....

No one can give you a guarantee but the software supplier, in writing and explicit, if it is not, there is none.

Click to expand...

This is what is in writing Remember the offer ends December 31, 2013 what does the renewal term mean "renew your contract based on the current price of the offering." Adobe sales could not tell me. If Adobe sales doesn't know who then.

Renewal
After the first 12 months, we will automatically renew your contract based on the current price of the offering.

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miketuthill said:

miketuthill wrote:

The following was posted by Adobe Staff on the Adobe Support Creative Cloud forum earlier today:

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1300146?tstart=0

"As stated in the FAQ this is not a special introductory price that will revert to regular pricing after a year. The price offered now is the standard price and it is a limited time offer - until 31 December, 2013.

The "then-current price" will be the same as you paid the first year."

So, according to her the current price is not going to change after the first year.

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miketuthill said:

miketuthill wrote:

miketuthill said:

Bajerunner wrote:

miketuthill said:

JJMacks wrote:

miketuthill said:

Bajerunner wrote:

If it is not in writing and explicit, it does not apply, that is a simple rule I have learned in life and business....

No one can give you a guarantee but the software supplier, in writing and explicit, if it is not, there is none.

Click to expand...

This is what is in writing Remember the offer ends December 31, 2013 what does the renewal term mean "renew your contract based on the current price of the offering." Adobe sales could not tell me. If Adobe sales doesn't know who then.

Renewal
After the first 12 months, we will automatically renew your contract based on the current price of the offering.

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MikeChambers said:

MikeChambers wrote:

MikeChambers said:

miketuthill wrote:

The following was posted by Adobe Staff on the Adobe Support Creative Cloud forum earlier today:

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1300146?tstart=0

"As stated in the FAQ this is not a special introductory price that will revert to regular pricing after a year. The price offered now is the standard price and it is a limited time offer - until 31 December, 2013.

The "then-current price" will be the same as you paid the first year."

So, according to her the current price is not going to change after the first year.

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The information in that post is incorrect (we are working on getting it corrected).

Ill try to be really clear, since there is so much confusion on this. If you join the Photoshop photography program, the monthly price for that program may change in the future (up or down). We don't have plans to change the price, but just like all of our other prices for our services and products, the prices may change in the future.

You are not guaranteed that the price you pay per month will be $9.99 forever. It may go up, it may go down.

Unlike some of our other Creative Cloud promotions, where you get an introductory price for a year, and then after a year, it goes up to the regular price, the price for the photography bundle is the regular price. So, once you have been a member via the Photography program a year, your price does not automatically go up.

Hope that helps clarify things.

mike chambers

[email protected]

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MikeChambers said:

MikeChambers wrote:

MikeChambers said:

miketuthill wrote:

The following was posted by Adobe Staff on the Adobe Support Creative Cloud forum earlier today:

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1300146?tstart=0

"As stated in the FAQ this is not a special introductory price that will revert to regular pricing after a year. The price offered now is the standard price and it is a limited time offer - until 31 December, 2013.

The "then-current price" will be the same as you paid the first year."

So, according to her the current price is not going to change after the first year.

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The information in that post is incorrect (we are working on getting it corrected).

Ill try to be really clear, since there is so much confusion on this. If you join the Photoshop photography program, the monthly price for that program may change in the future (up or down). We don't have plans to change the price, but just like all of our other prices for our services and products, the prices may change in the future.

You are not guaranteed that the price you pay per month will be $9.99 forever. It may go up, it may go down.

Unlike some of our other Creative Cloud promotions, where you get an introductory price for a year, and then after a year, it goes up to the regular price, the price for the photography bundle is the regular price. So, once you have been a member via the Photography program a year, your price does not automatically go up.

Hope that helps clarify things.

mike chambers

[email protected]

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