nuno jorge
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I´m a Portuguese photojournalist, and i start use the fantastic X-PRO 1 in my work, i take this photos with fujinon 55-200
CC welcome
Best Regards
Nuno Jorge
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You said Xpro-1 is not a fast action camera
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I´m a Portuguese photojournalist, and i start use the fantastic X-PRO 1 in my work, i take this photos with fujinon 55-200
CC welcome
Best Regards
Nuno Jorge
more photos in
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nunopressfotos
verheyph
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As a Belgian guy, I don't like your picturesnuno jorge wrote:
I´m a Portuguese photojournalist, and i start use the fantastic X-PRO 1 in my work, i take this photos with fujinon 55-200
CC welcome
Best Regards
Nuno Jorge
more photos in
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nunopressfotos
even if they are beautiful, but I would like to know your settings for that kind of image.Thank you
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Cheers - Philippe
nuno jorge
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Hi
The settings i use
Speed 1/500
Aperture - minimal
auto iso 200-6400
3 fps shoot
af-s, i focus like the old shool, you need focus alaways in the front the player, when he come in your direction
The settings i use
Speed 1/500
Aperture - minimal
auto iso 200-6400
3 fps shoot
af-s, i focus like the old shool, you need focus alaways in the front the player, when he come in your direction
Simon Elwell
Leading Member
Maybe it's my iPad Nuno, but I don't think the camera has nailed the focus in these shots. It may be motion blur, of course...
When the light drops to the point that the shutter speed gets down to 1/500, I start thinking about going home and I get very conservative about when I actually press the shutter. At 1/250 I actually do go home.
My usual soccer settings with DSLRs (two bodies -- one with 300 f/2.8 and one with 70-200 f/2.8) are:
- Lenses wide open or no more than 2/3 of a stop down
- Aperture Priority
- Starting ISO is 800 with Auto ISO (assuming highly functional auto ISO)
- I try to keep the shutter speeds in the 1/2000 to 1/8000 range
Very fast and accurate AF is critical. Years ago I used a nice (optically) Tokina 300 f/2.8 with Nikon "screwdriver" AF. When I started shooting women's pro soccer (moving up from recreational and semi-pro) I found I was missing head-on shots because the AF was too slow (the better the players, the faster they move). Upgrading to a Nikon lens solved that...Almost "snaps" into focus as you shift targets.
Expectations by editors are frozen action and very narrow depth of field. Oh...And something interesting has to be happening.
...Maybe the IS was turned on. That can give an overall "unsharpness" when used in lighting where it isn't needed.
nuno jorge
Active member
Yes IS is on
nuno jorge
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WTF
You are compare top Dslr with the top lens to Xpro1 with 55-200?
You are compare a $10.000 combo to $1300 combo
Of course for the publications, i use my Nikon D4 with a Nikon 400 2,8, and the Nikon d800 with a 70-200 VRII
You are compare top Dslr with the top lens to Xpro1 with 55-200?
You are compare a $10.000 combo to $1300 combo
Of course for the publications, i use my Nikon D4 with a Nikon 400 2,8, and the Nikon d800 with a 70-200 VRII
Try turning off the IS. Adjust your ISO to get the shutter speeds up into the 1/2000 to 1/4000 range.
If you are standing, try using a monopod. Unfortunately the 55-200 doesn't have a tripod foot.
Also consider using a folding stool (like the Swedish Walk-Stool). It doesn't make that much difference for mid-field action, but when the players get close, the point of view isn't looking down on them. And when you are sitting, you may be able to steady the camera better with the IS off.
We're not comparing gear. We're comparing results. If you feel that the X-Pro1 shots are acceptable, then you don't need a D4...Or maybe I missed the point of your original post. I don't happen use my X-Pro1 for fast action.
Yes...I could row a boat across the Atlantic. It has been done several times. But I prefer other modes of transportation. Sometimes gear does make a difference.
nuno jorge
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Tks for the tips. for the shutter speed´s i have a problem the aperture the lens is 3,5-4,5
You're spoiled by your 70-200 VR. (Me too.) You can shoot that lens f/3.2 or f/3.6 across the zoom range -- and even open it to f/2.8 if you need to. It's a shame that Fuji didn't make the 55-200 a constant f/4 -- and add a removable tripod foot.
You can make similar photographs with any camera with a high shutter speed and a prefocused lens. There are plenty of great sports photos from before the advent of auto focus. There's a reason that you don't see pro sports photographers using them anymore.
CraigBennett
Leading Member
You asked for cc and that is what these comments provided, they just are not the comments you like. I too am in their camp and think that the images you provided are blurred and AF missed.
Regards,
Well, I always seem to be a person many people disagree with but I think you did a good job with these.
My monitor may be bad or my eyesight out of calibration but the focus on your main subjects looks pretty good to me.
Granted, a DSLR, that tracked fast moving subjects may have been a little better but I don't see anything seriously wrong with your pictures.
Looks to me like you're getting the most out of the camera and should feel good with your results.
but I think you did a good job with these.My monitor may be bad or my eyesight out of calibration but the focus on your main subjects looks pretty good to me.
Granted, a DSLR, that tracked fast moving subjects may have been a little better but I don't see anything seriously wrong with your pictures.
Looks to me like you're getting the most out of the camera and should feel good with your results.
PJInTheUSA
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These are great shots by any measure IMO. The fact that people come on and state the bleeding obvious ( you could have got much better results with a camera and lens 5 times the cost, and built for this type of shot) , does not diminish your work.
I think the OP was asking for C&C based on the shots having been taken with the with the xPro1 and all it's inherent restrictions. Not C&C on whether he should have taken the shot at all.
I think the OP was asking for C&C based on the shots having been taken with the with the xPro1 and all it's inherent restrictions. Not C&C on whether he should have taken the shot at all.
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Joachim Gerstl
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The images are unsharp. Not in focus or motion blur. The point is that even a Canon Rebel with a standard 70-300 IS would do a better job for action than the XP1 and at half the price for the combo you used.
I love my XP1 but I don't get it why some people feel the need to proof that the XP1 is the best for everything. It is not. Period.
I love my XP1 but I don't get it why some people feel the need to proof that the XP1 is the best for everything. It is not. Period.
These are good shots, but the title and the implied message is extremely irritating. Perhaps you assume that everyone thinks that sports photography didn't exist before 1D came to the market? I can get shots like that with a manual Nikon FM, hell, I could get stop-motion shots like that with an original Sigma DP1 which was so slow and clunky that XPRO1 is a speed demon compared to that. You just prefocus and wait. All you need is a camera capable of locking the focus and setting fast shutter speed. Please show me a sports photojournalist who is making a living with the XPro1.. So, what are you trying to prove?
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