Protection Filter on the 7-14mm f/4.0?

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The 7-14mm f/4.0 is the only m4/3 lens wide enough for my purposes that's also rectilinear. How do I fit it with a clear protection/UV filter? I would still require the lens hood.

Does the protruding element mean that it will be more susceptible to lens flare?
 
There is no filter thread on lens and the hood is built in so it is not removable. Yes this lens will flare in certain conditions. It is much worse on Olympus cameras because they don't do any software correction for it like Panasonic does.

These threads might be interesting to you:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/34454181

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3373214#forum-post-50724130

http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/filters-on-panasonic-7-14mm-problem.html

Someone else on this site made a rear filter for it too. I can't seem to find the link right now though.

The absence of a filter thread has kept me from buying this lens. Panasonic is due to upgrade this lens but no word on if or when they will. Olympus will have a wide Pro lens coming out after the 40-150mm 2.8, but expect to wait a year for that.
 
uberzone wrote:

There is no filter thread on lens and the hood is built in so it is not removable. Yes this lens will flare in certain conditions. It is much worse on Olympus cameras because they don't do any software correction for it like Panasonic does.

These threads might be interesting to you:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/34454181

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3373214#forum-post-50724130

http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/filters-on-panasonic-7-14mm-problem.html

Someone else on this site made a rear filter for it too. I can't seem to find the link right now though.

The absence of a filter thread has kept me from buying this lens. Panasonic is due to upgrade this lens but no word on if or when they will. Olympus will have a wide Pro lens coming out after the 40-150mm 2.8, but expect to wait a year for that.
Whoa! Thanks! I think I should hold off then. A filter is just too important.

Will the Olympus wide lens be wider than the 9mm that they currently have?
 
babybunny wrote:

The 7-14mm f/4.0 is the only m4/3 lens wide enough for my purposes that's also rectilinear. How do I fit it with a clear protection/UV filter? I would still require the lens hood.

Does the protruding element mean that it will be more susceptible to lens flare?
I suspect that, like the Nikkor 14-24 f2.8, the answer is "you don't".
 
babybunny wrote:
uberzone wrote:

There is no filter thread on lens and the hood is built in so it is not removable. Yes this lens will flare in certain conditions. It is much worse on Olympus cameras because they don't do any software correction for it like Panasonic does.

These threads might be interesting to you:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/34454181

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3373214#forum-post-50724130

http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/filters-on-panasonic-7-14mm-problem.html

Someone else on this site made a rear filter for it too. I can't seem to find the link right now though.

The absence of a filter thread has kept me from buying this lens. Panasonic is due to upgrade this lens but no word on if or when they will. Olympus will have a wide Pro lens coming out after the 40-150mm 2.8, but expect to wait a year for that.
Whoa! Thanks! I think I should hold off then. A filter is just too important.

Will the Olympus wide lens be wider than the 9mm that they currently have?
Not that I want to start yet another filter/no filter thing, but I find them wholly unimportant and only ever use them for specific things like ND, polarising etc.

I never use UV filters and never have in 30 years. Just another air/glass interface to get in the way and to keep clean.
 
babybunny wrote:

The 7-14mm f/4.0 is the only m4/3 lens wide enough for my purposes that's also rectilinear. How do I fit it with a clear protection/UV filter? I would still require the lens hood.

Does the protruding element mean that it will be more susceptible to lens flare?
A "protection" filter if you could add one, would just make it even more prone to flare. I just keep the cap on until I use it.

A polarisor would be virtually useless because of the uneven look you get with a ultra wide lens.

Here is a pic taken right into the sun. Just a little flare around the tire but overall not too bad.



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And again, little if any flare



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http://www.flickr.com/photos/klatuu13/sets/72157635413336040/

--
Brian Schneider
 
MPA1 wrote:
babybunny wrote:
uberzone wrote:

There is no filter thread on lens and the hood is built in so it is not removable. Yes this lens will flare in certain conditions. It is much worse on Olympus cameras because they don't do any software correction for it like Panasonic does.

These threads might be interesting to you:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/34454181

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3373214#forum-post-50724130

http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/filters-on-panasonic-7-14mm-problem.html

Someone else on this site made a rear filter for it too. I can't seem to find the link right now though.

The absence of a filter thread has kept me from buying this lens. Panasonic is due to upgrade this lens but no word on if or when they will. Olympus will have a wide Pro lens coming out after the 40-150mm 2.8, but expect to wait a year for that.
Whoa! Thanks! I think I should hold off then. A filter is just too important.

Will the Olympus wide lens be wider than the 9mm that they currently have?
Not that I want to start yet another filter/no filter thing, but I find them wholly unimportant and only ever use them for specific things like ND, polarising etc.

I never use UV filters and never have in 30 years. Just another air/glass interface to get in the way and to keep clean.
Your needs are different than mine.

I employ 3 photographers. I need to protect my equipment as I have them use my stuff.

I also need a wide angle that is resistant to lens flare and can use an ND filter easily.
 
Not that I want to start yet another filter/no filter thing, but I find them wholly unimportant and only ever use them for specific things like ND, polarising etc.

I never use UV filters and never have in 30 years. Just another air/glass interface to get in the way and to keep clean.
ND and polarizing are the two reasons why I want a filter thread for this lens. I agree aobut the UV filter though. The only lens I use one on is the Panasonic 20mm. I serves as a filter thread extender so I can use a step up ring or vari-ND filter and it won't jam the focus mechanism on the lens.
 
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I already had a case where the front filter prevented damage after one of my photographers dropped the camera down a flight of stairs.
 
babybunny wrote:
MPA1 wrote:
babybunny wrote:
uberzone wrote:

There is no filter thread on lens and the hood is built in so it is not removable. Yes this lens will flare in certain conditions. It is much worse on Olympus cameras because they don't do any software correction for it like Panasonic does.

These threads might be interesting to you:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/34454181

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3373214#forum-post-50724130

http://the-random-photographer.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/filters-on-panasonic-7-14mm-problem.html

Someone else on this site made a rear filter for it too. I can't seem to find the link right now though.

The absence of a filter thread has kept me from buying this lens. Panasonic is due to upgrade this lens but no word on if or when they will. Olympus will have a wide Pro lens coming out after the 40-150mm 2.8, but expect to wait a year for that.
Whoa! Thanks! I think I should hold off then. A filter is just too important.

Will the Olympus wide lens be wider than the 9mm that they currently have?
Not that I want to start yet another filter/no filter thing, but I find them wholly unimportant and only ever use them for specific things like ND, polarising etc.

I never use UV filters and never have in 30 years. Just another air/glass interface to get in the way and to keep clean.
Your needs are different than mine.

I employ 3 photographers. I need to protect my equipment as I have them use my stuff.

I also need a wide angle that is resistant to lens flare and can use an ND filter easily.
Then the 7-14 is not for you I'm afraid.

ANY ultra wide will be prone to some flare and a filter will just make it worse.
 
babybunny wrote:

I already had a case where the front filter prevented damage after one of my photographers dropped the camera down a flight of stairs.
nothing is proof to all events, but the very robust built in hood on this will protect against most and better than a glass alumnimum or brass rimmed filter that can cause more damage than it saves when taking a severe impact (jamming into the lens so cant be removed for example). they degrade the image and lead to greater flare.... apart from taking close up shots of dogs with big licky tongues they seem worse than pointless....a bit like spending a couple of grand on a lovely new leathet lounge chair and insisting on keeping it covered in plastic to preserve it.
 
robonrome wrote:
babybunny wrote:

I already had a case where the front filter prevented damage after one of my photographers dropped the camera down a flight of stairs.
nothing is proof to all events, but the very robust built in hood on this will protect against most and better than a glass alumnimum or brass rimmed filter that can cause more damage than it saves when taking a severe impact (jamming into the lens so cant be removed for example). they degrade the image and lead to greater flare.... apart from taking close up shots of dogs with big licky tongues they seem worse than pointless....a bit like spending a couple of grand on a lovely new leathet lounge chair and insisting on keeping it covered in plastic to preserve it.
Has not been my experience. And we shoot every single workday. Putting about 300k combined shutter actuations on our cameras per month.

Maybe for fine art applications and prints blown up to wall-sized images not having a filter is critical. But for most work it doesn't matter.
 
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babybunny wrote:
robonrome wrote:
babybunny wrote:

I already had a case where the front filter prevented damage after one of my photographers dropped the camera down a flight of stairs.
nothing is proof to all events, but the very robust built in hood on this will protect against most and better than a glass alumnimum or brass rimmed filter that can cause more damage than it saves when taking a severe impact (jamming into the lens so cant be removed for example). they degrade the image and lead to greater flare.... apart from taking close up shots of dogs with big licky tongues they seem worse than pointless....a bit like spending a couple of grand on a lovely new leathet lounge chair and insisting on keeping it covered in plastic to preserve it.
Has not been my experience. And we shoot every single workday. Putting about 300k combined shutter actuations on our cameras per month.

Maybe for fine art applications and prints blown up to wall-sized images not having a filter is critical. But for most work it doesn't matter.
well you know your needs best of course. you did mention flare however and there's no escaping that adding a clear filter to a wide angle lens will increase its propensity to flare.
 
I used to believe the "protection filter" thing as well until I had one shatter for no apparent reason and cause much more trouble. If you buy decent filters for all of your lenses, you are better off saving the money towards repairs. I think the lens hood is the best protection and it does not degrade image quality.
 

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