Macro lens for the Olympus E-P5

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I am in the market for a Macro lens for my E-P5. As I am new to the M4T format I would welcome some advice please. I will be using it for photographing coins and small artefacts as well as insects, flowers etc. The lens I have in mind is the Olympus 60mm. Would this be a good choice?
 
If you want to shoot macro then yes, its probably your best choice

(now watch the legacy macro shooters protest :P )
 
I have 60mm macro and I use it also for portraits in general shooting. It is a very sharp lens.
 
Brian Wadie wrote:

If you want to shoot macro then yes, its probably your best choice

(now watch the legacy macro shooters protest :P )
Legacy is certainly an economical option, a lens plus adapter for about $100. I bought the Sigma 60/2.8 sans macro ($220) because I use legacy lenses for my macro work.

Canon FD 50/3.5 macro on OMD.



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Headmaster wrote:

Forgive my ignorance but I have no idea what 'legacy' is all about!
Legacy lenses equates to old film days lenses (cheap and plenty) and many third party adapters exist to fit those lenses to M4/3 cameras. Downsides are manual focus and manual operation of the aperture. Upsides are cheapness.

The Oly 60mm macro is a superb lens (both build and image quality) for macro as well as short tele or tight head and shoulders portrait lens.

One "problem" for use as a document copier is that the working distance gets a bit long for larger areas so needs more bench space to set up or sometimes a very tall copy stand - but that is a minor issue to consider. Mainly because the large working distance allows easier shots of nervous insects, where a shorter focal length gets way too close to them and many misbehave or vacate the frame.

My ideal general macro lens is the 60mm but when slide copy comes into it I use my old Four Thirds 35mm macro lens adapted via the MMF-2 adapter and stick a Nikon ES-1 on the front for easy 35mm slide copy work.

Regards..... Guy
 
Headmaster wrote:

Forgive my ignorance but I have no idea what 'legacy' is all about!
Legacy lenses equates to old film days lenses (cheap and plenty) and many third party adapters exist to fit those lenses to M4/3 cameras. Downsides are manual focus and manual operation of the aperture. Upsides are cheapness.

The Oly 60mm macro is a superb lens (both build and image quality) for macro as well as short tele or tight head and shoulders portrait lens.

One "problem" for use as a document copier is that the working distance gets a bit long for larger areas so needs more bench space to set up or sometimes a very tall copy stand - but that is a minor issue to consider. Mainly because the large working distance allows easier shots of nervous insects, where a shorter focal length gets way too close to them and many misbehave or vacate the frame.

My ideal general macro lens is the 60mm but when slide copy comes into it I use my old Four Thirds 35mm macro lens adapted via the MMF-2 adapter and stick a Nikon ES-1 on the front for easy 35mm slide copy work.

Regards..... Guy
Thanks so much for the explanation. I'll probably get the 6mm from Bristol Cameras. :)
 
Headmaster wrote:
Headmaster wrote:

Forgive my ignorance but I have no idea what 'legacy' is all about!
Legacy lenses equates to old film days lenses (cheap and plenty) and many third party adapters exist to fit those lenses to M4/3 cameras. Downsides are manual focus and manual operation of the aperture. Upsides are cheapness.

The Oly 60mm macro is a superb lens (both build and image quality) for macro as well as short tele or tight head and shoulders portrait lens.

One "problem" for use as a document copier is that the working distance gets a bit long for larger areas so needs more bench space to set up or sometimes a very tall copy stand - but that is a minor issue to consider. Mainly because the large working distance allows easier shots of nervous insects, where a shorter focal length gets way too close to them and many misbehave or vacate the frame.

My ideal general macro lens is the 60mm but when slide copy comes into it I use my old Four Thirds 35mm macro lens adapted via the MMF-2 adapter and stick a Nikon ES-1 on the front for easy 35mm slide copy work.

Regards..... Guy
Thanks so much for the explanation. I'll probably get the 6mm from Bristol Cameras. :)
Hehe. 6mm macro = mind blown. :D
 
There's also the Panasonic Leica 45 f2.8 which is in my opinion a decent macro.
 
Ron Evers wrote:
Brian Wadie wrote:

If you want to shoot macro then yes, its probably your best choice

(now watch the legacy macro shooters protest :P )
Legacy is certainly an economical option, a lens plus adapter for about $100. I bought the Sigma 60/2.8 sans macro ($220) because I use legacy lenses for my macro work.

Canon FD 50/3.5 macro on OMD.

68dcc7d058384eeb81f9e57d4ae7d7e1.jpg

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The wood is clear between the knots.
Super sharp shot, what focusing rail is that you are using and how do you like it?
 
local novice wrote:
Ron Evers wrote:
Brian Wadie wrote:

If you want to shoot macro then yes, its probably your best choice

(now watch the legacy macro shooters protest :P )
Legacy is certainly an economical option, a lens plus adapter for about $100. I bought the Sigma 60/2.8 sans macro ($220) because I use legacy lenses for my macro work.

Canon FD 50/3.5 macro on OMD.

68dcc7d058384eeb81f9e57d4ae7d7e1.jpg

ba14b556985f4242a0c2c009c85aeb2b.jpg

--
The wood is clear between the knots.
Super sharp shot, what focusing rail is that you are using and how do you like it?
The one I have & like very much is @ this link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-way-Macro...385?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c336da6a1

The price has come down a lot, I paid about $80 four years ago.

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The wood is clear between the knots.
 
Headmaster wrote:

Forgive my ignorance but I have no idea what 'legacy' is all about!
"Legacy" is a derogatory term for lenses primarily designed for film cameras. If it still works, there's nothing "legacy" about them in my book.

I prefer the term adapted manual lens.

As far as shooting macro and macro lenses go, many macro shooters prefer manual focus, since relying on autofocus can be frustrating for critical focus. Typical electronic lenses' "focus-by-wire" is an exercise in frustration, since there's no direct mechanical connection between the lens' focus system and your finger tips. ;-) Manual focus is is often quicker and easier using focus magnification than futzing with AF.

Adapting manual macro lenses is considerably cheaper than buying either of the two native M4/3 macro lenses. Mine are Nikons and cost about $300 each from KEH.com: 60mm f2.8D, 105mm f2.8 AI-S and 200mm f4 IF. All are excellent lenses! The 105mm is a particular favorite for flying critters and as a telephoto.
 
Super sharp shot, what focusing rail is that you are using and how do you like it?
The one I have & like very much is @ this link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-way-Macro...385?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c336da6a1

The price has come down a lot, I paid about $80 four years ago.
This looks like a cool unit. Thanks for the link. Can you lock it in position? One of my applications would be coin photography, with the camera pointed straight down. I am concerned about weight causing the camera to shift out of position (to drift down).

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J. Franklin Campbell
Mason, Michigan (USA)
 
J Franklin Campbell wrote:
Super sharp shot, what focusing rail is that you are using and how do you like it?
The one I have & like very much is @ this link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-way-Macro...385?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c336da6a1

The price has come down a lot, I paid about $80 four years ago.
This looks like a cool unit. Thanks for the link. Can you lock it in position? One of my applications would be coin photography, with the camera pointed straight down. I am concerned about weight causing the camera to shift out of position (to drift down).

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J. Franklin Campbell
Mason, Michigan (USA)
http://jfcampbell.us
Yes, there are adjustable gibs to adjust the friction or lock the sliders. You see the adjusting knob for one in the pic above with the white string hanging from it.

n. A plain or notched, often wedge-shaped piece of wood or metal designed to hold parts of a machine or structure in place or provide a bearing surface, usually adjusted by a screw or key.

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The wood is clear between the knots.
 
I have to disagree that that label "legacy" is commonly viewed on these forums as being "derogatory." While some may have used it that way, it strikes me that the overwhelming majority use it to describe lenses built for film cameras that are still compatable in some way with digital cameras, whether by adaptor or not.
 
""Legacy" is a derogatory term for lenses primarily designed for film cameras. If it still works, there's nothing "legacy" about them in my book"

Nothing derogatory about the term "Legacy" lens from my point of view, I use a an old sigma 180mm f5.6 macro lens on my EM-5 now and then and have several others, including my Tamron 500mm and they all have their place but, for critical macro use I still would turn to the 60mm macro as my lens of choice with the EM-5

(Dictionary definition : Legacy, anything handed down from the past - seems to fit the case here)
 
The 60mm is awesome. Well recommended.









 
The 45mm f2.8's a superb lens. I don't understand the tepid consensus. I own the 75mm, and I think they're optical equals.

I prefer the more relaxed 90mm-e perspective of the Panny/Leica for portraits. There's a fairly significant difference in perspective between 60mm and 45mm.
 
fleetingimprov wrote:

The 45mm f2.8's a superb lens. I don't understand the tepid consensus. I own the 75mm, and I think they're optical equals.

I prefer the more relaxed 90mm-e perspective of the Panny/Leica for portraits. There's a fairly significant difference in perspective between 60mm and 45mm.
I agree. From what I've seen the 45mm is a very good macro. I suspect the main reason the Oly steals all the limelight is that extra length and working distance is handy if you're chasing bugs. It's not a huge difference at 1:1, but I think it's just enough to make a difference.
 

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