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And you have good eyes to see the potential of this scene. :) But watch out for the perspective control.... I saw the EXIF, is D200 APS-C or FF? I was going to suggest using 135mm FL, but I see you already did. :D This would be a perfect instance to use m.Zuiko 75mm f/1.8 if you have m4/3 set up.
 
Am home with all my new pics, having fun playing with them. Hope we can keep this thread going, it was nice to see some activity today.

Do you have a plan/idea for how to share RAW files as the other OP requested? I can see how that would be helpful in this endeavor. Dropbox? I haven't fooled with it but once, so I'm a novice, but if I remember correctly, it did work.
 
Sergey_Green said:
Sergey_Green wrote:
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citizenlouie wrote:
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  1. The chair is a distraction (but the tree isn't, though I'd prefer its presence to be larger to create a mysterious kind of feeling, but this is only an artistic choice). This requires reshoot as re-cropping will crop into door frame, which will make this frame unbalanced. You probably need to move the chair out of the way or shoot from a different angle to avoid the chair (your choice).
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I thought the chair sort of counter-balanced the tree, but perhaps you are right. It would be a better graphic scene without it.
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I see what you're doing, now you point that out. But if I were you (again, just some artistic approach issue) I would shoot it in landscape orientation, and leave lots of blank on the left of the frame (maybe 2/3 empty space and 1/3 this exact scene on the right), with the chair being the counter balance point (and not overlapping with the door frame, which I find it clustered). This means using 85mm instead of 135mm which can be tricky when it comes to preserve this perspective.
 
These edits look nice. :)
 
Thanks for the great feedback! Of course bracketing would've probably helped. Better timing would have produced a different result but likely without the rainbow.

This may or may not work to make the RAW file available, but I'm giving it a try via Dropbox. Paste the link into a browser and see if it will let you download the file. It works test driving it myself but that isn't such a great test.

Of course I can't reshoot this since I live thousands of miles from Sol Duc, so I am doomed to try to make the best I can of it. I've been experimenting with your suggestions this afternoon but haven't struck on anything much. My version in photoshop with all the plugins I could throw at it didn't look any better than my lightroom version. I'll keep fiddling. You have some good suggestions if I could magically transport back, but...

Looking forward to seeing someone create magic and tell me how they did it!

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minniev said:
minniev wrote:

Thanks for the great feedback! Of course bracketing would've probably helped. Better timing would have produced a different result but likely without the rainbow.

This may or may not work to make the RAW file available, but I'm giving it a try via Dropbox. Paste the link into a browser and see if it will let you download the file. It works test driving it myself but that isn't such a great test.

Of course I can't reshoot this since I live thousands of miles from Sol Duc, so I am doomed to try to make the best I can of it. I've been experimenting with your suggestions this afternoon but haven't struck on anything much. My version in photoshop with all the plugins I could throw at it didn't look any better than my lightroom version. I'll keep fiddling. You have some good suggestions if I could magically transport back, but...

Looking forward to seeing someone create magic and tell me how they did it!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qv76lr388fns1ec/sol duc raw (1 of 1).orf
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Hiya Minnie



Thanks for supplying the RAW in Dropbox, worked for me :)

I had a play with this image in Picasa3 (you might get a better result with your own software :) )

With the RAW file:



1. cropped out the over bright trees in background to just above the rainbow

2. cropped out the overly dark area to right. This gives the image an almost squarish shape now.

3. Vignetted the scene lightly to darken the greens on the fringes a little and to highlight the falls/rainbow.

4. Applied an auto contrast

5. Auto colour to bring out the rainbow.

6. Bumped highlights a little to strengthen the falls/rainbow.

7. Did some Shadow adjustment to further darken the greens and emphasise the fall/rainbow.



I know this may not be what you are searching for, especially the shape of the image but I didn't want to let this one lie. No doubt others will offer up better renditions on your RAW file (I hope :) )



The image:



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"I take photographs, if you want them back see my lawyer!!"
E500, 14-45mm, 40-150mm, 70-300mm, E620, 14-42mm, 40-150mm.
 
minniev said:
minniev wrote:

What a great idea for a thread! I'll commit to being a regular contributor. I 'm not sure how much fixing I can do with my travel set up but I'll post an image now, and see what I can do with others. The ones already posted are interesting. I have many gigabytes of trash!

Sol duc falls complete with rainbow. Beautiful to look at but hard (for me) to photograph. Highlights and shadows are recoverable but I've not been able to make much of this yet.

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The highlight overblown problem is not apparent in web-size version, but upon close inspection it's severe enough I could not able to load it into Olympus Viewer 3 and get Olympus color correct barrel distortion of your lens with it. Fortunately LR handles DR better than Olympus Viewer when it comes to the new sensor of your E-M5, but the caveat is LR doesn't correct barrel distortion. So here is the result. E-M5's sensor is very forgiving when it comes to DR, so I got a lot more headroom for post processing.

Processed with Lightroom 5.
Processed with Lightroom 5.

The entire list of what did was very elaborate to list them all here, but basically here is what I did:
  1. I noticed there is a strong spot light on the rock in the front, so I used gradient filter tool in LR to even out differences in lighting between left side of the frame and right side of the frame.
  2. The grove on top also suffered from highlight overblown, so I also used gradient filter tool to even out lighting.
  3. Lowered contrast of the entire scene a little.
  4. Applied some vignette effect.
  5. Increased exposure in general and lifted exposure in the mid tone, but decreased exposure in the highlight (the E-M5's built-in tonal curve would be useful here, then your RAW file would get even more headroom to work around)
  6. Cropped to 8x10, because I see a little compositional balance issue.
  7. Sharpened using generic LR preset sharpness filter. Increased clarity. Warmed WB slightly.
As you see rainbow popped itself without me paying attention to it. Human eyes work in relativity, so if you darken the surrounding, the middle part would pop.

I hope you like the result. Please grab the final file, as I will delete it from my hard drive (don't want to keep other people's photos that I don't have copyright to for too long).
 
Oh, I just noticed the RAW you supplied to us is different from the one in your original photo posted above.... The composition is slightly different (yours got a little more room to the left and a little more on the bottom). That one is a better composed one, so I wouldn't have to crop it to 8x10 if that's the one supplied.
 
Oh, gosh, now you remind me.... I HATE that kind of intrusive wire or any object coming into my photo. I have one photo that has the same problem! Those of you who are very good at Photoshop help me on that one. It's more complicated than yours, even.... I'll post it in a new post.
 
San Francisco's Historical street cars are very charming, really! But the wires are such annoying artifacts. I got a few photos that are ruined by these wires. Maybe some of you guys who are very good at Adobe Photoshop know how to get rid of them quickly (I really don't know how other than removing the artifact pixel by pixel using clone tool, and then hand-paint the parts that are not quite perfect but I think it'll take FOREVER with this one, if there is no other method...).



Coit Tower at Night
Coit Tower at Night
 
Thanks to all who have tried to retrieve something from this. I've learned from all your efforts, comments and suggestions. I've been fiddling with it myself and will continue to do so, using your ideas. Here's the latest version, which still has lots of warts.

Citizen Louie, you are right! The RAW I posted was not the exact shot I first posted the jpeg for. In fact, I now cannot locate that file (not the RAW or the jpeg). Who knows what I did with it. There were about a half dozen that were all very similar. So below, I'm working with the one I posted the RAW for, not the missing first rendition. Most of what I did below was in LR5, with a little help from NIK color efex though not much, almost every filter I tried created as much trouble as it cured, just in another location.

Still say the thread is fun, hope it lives!
 
minniev said:
minniev wrote:

Thanks to all who have tried to retrieve something from this. I've learned from all your efforts, comments and suggestions. I've been fiddling with it myself and will continue to do so, using your ideas. Here's the latest version, which still has lots of warts.
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Where is the latest version?
minniev said:
Citizen Louie, you are right! The RAW I posted was not the exact shot I first posted the jpeg for. In fact, I now cannot locate that file (not the RAW or the jpeg). Who knows what I did with it. There were about a half dozen that were all very similar. So below, I'm working with the one I posted the RAW for, not the missing first rendition. Most of what I did below was in LR5, with a little help from NIK color efex though not much, almost every filter I tried created as much trouble as it cured, just in another location.

Still say the thread is fun, hope it lives!
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Yes, the thread is fun. Lot of things can be learned from mistakes and share notes on how each of us approach to fix the mistakes. No learning can be done faster by sharing notes!

If you imported the photo using LR, then it's categorized somewhere in your hard drive (most likely in your My Pictures folder if you're using Windows).
 
Used the clone brush in PSPX5 Ultimate. Probably spent about 20 minutes. Depends on how much you want the image changed and how many tell tale signs you are willing to accept I guess. I'm usually happy if there isn't really anything too glaring.

Andrew



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Sergey_Green said:
I really wanted to like this image,

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Maybe you aren't looking at it correctly.

Yes, at first glance, as a photograph it doesn't really seem to work. But when I look at it as a painting or a gouache, in which each element was drawn there on purpose, it somehow becomes a beautiful, intriguing composition of shapes and earthy colors. I like it a lot and I wouldn't change a thing.
 
Here she is, warts and all. DPR is playing tricks on me today.

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Very cool. Only 20 minutes! You're a master! :)
 
Here's my go at the wires. I am terrible at this but mean to keep practicing. If it were my photo I would have cropped out those buildings below or if that made the bottom too skimpy I'd have just cloned in some more dark stuff and let it go mostly silhouette, but thought perhaps you wanted them there. The tower leans just a tad, didn't know if that was distortion or maybe it really leans? So straightened a nudge but didn't try to be precise. Did take liberty to take some off right side which seemed too much empty space. A little more processing in OnOne, I am partial to glow-type effects. Cool building, very photogenic. Monochrome seems best for it based on architecture.

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Oh, you did it the same time as Andrew. Thank you both for your effort. You guys done the most difficult parts. The smaller blemishes can be fixed easily with a little hand painting (just time consuming, but not super difficult). Yes, Minnie, I do like the silhouettes.... :D The leaning tower is probably due to perspective.
 
Not completely perfect but here's a go with PS CS5. Started with the spot healing brush and then fixed a few important spots with the clone tool.



The Wonderful Wires (without the wires)
The Wonderful Wires (without the wires)



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Bruce
 
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