V1 in-store test shots

Ulysses · May 26, 2003

Predictably, they're pretty saturated.

However, the V1 now has the additional feature of having adjustable saturation control, as well as contrast controls. This ought to give the photographer a bit more creative command of the final output.

catsbreath said:
Thanks for posting these, Helen. I predict your photobase page will
get a lot of traffic.

Is it just me or are those reds way oversaturated?

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Stephen Waits · May 26, 2003

If you do go back to the store, could you keep an eye out for the DSC-U30 and report back to us?

Thanks,
Steve

HelenPB · May 26, 2003

Sure thing, I'll keep an eye out for it. I know they have the U20 in a rainbow of colors and cases (including camouflage and fur

) but I don't recall seeing the U30 yet. I'll look again to be sure.

Helen

Stephen Waits said:
If you do go back to the store, could you keep an eye out for the
DSC-U30 and report back to us?

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HelenPB · May 26, 2003

They are pretty red, aren't they? Especially one of the signs; I couldn't believe it when I saw the picture. I didn't use the "less saturation" control, but I surely would if I owned the camera.

catsbreath said:
Thanks for posting these, Helen. I predict your photobase page will
get a lot of traffic.

Is it just me or are those reds way oversaturated?

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lharris · May 26, 2003

Thanks so muc--have you ever tried the Minotla F300 to compare or the Optio 550?

Like you, I want this for my purse. I have nust assumed it would outperform those in its class and am still hoping...

We all appreciate your consideration.

Linda

Helen Betts said:
Helen

Stephen Waits said:

If you do go back to the store, could you keep an eye out for the
DSC-U30 and report back to us?

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R2D2 · May 26, 2003

In looking at your flash shots, the flash is balanced with the ambient light.

Since the flash fires at "first curtain" (flash fires first, then ambient light exposure is made afterward), then the camera shake exhibited in say image DSC00026 could be attributed to moving the camera immediately after the flash fired. I had to readjust after my first flash pictures didn't turn out right.

I'm quite impressed with the nice balance of flash and ambient light in the shots (IMO the 717 leans a little heavily on the flash in Fill Flash or Twilight Portrait Mode). And did you all notice the HVL-IRM accessory on the display?

http://www.etronics.com/product.asp?stk_code=sonhvlirm

R2

Helen Betts said:
Well, instead of going home to work tonight, I got off the airplane
from the outer islands, dropped my luggage at the house and went up
to Kitamura Camera to play with the new V1. I just couldn't resist,
and since I had already told my boss in Turkey that I wouldn't get
home from the airport until really late, figured why not...

It was dark outside so I was only able to shoot indoors, and even
then coudn't move more than a foot in any direction (so pretty
boring, repetitive pics). The camera is amazingly light (I thought
it would feel like my old S45, but it didn't) and quite thick. But
comfortable enough to use. Response time seems quite fast. I did
notice, however, some really slow shutter speeds, even with the
flash, so of course got several blurred pics. (Even with faster
speeds I got some blurry images; I think they were mainly zoomed).
I haven't had much time to analyze them, but wanted to post this
for everybody. I'll try to go back tomorrow or at least as soon as
I can during daylight and see if I can't talk them into letting me
go outside for a while with it. They can hold my 717 as security if
they like

http://www.pbase.com/helenpb/sony_v1_instore_test_shots

Helen

HelenPB · May 26, 2003

Hi Linda,

No, I must admit I haven't tried either of those; my only outside-Sony experience was with the Canon S45. I'm stil hoping too; I just need another session with the camera when I can have more time to work with it.

Helen

lharris said:
Thanks so muc--have you ever tried the Minotla F300 to compare or
the Optio 550?

Like you, I want this for my purse. I have nust assumed it would
outperform those in its class and am still hoping...

We all appreciate your consideration.

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HelenPB · May 26, 2003

Yes, that sounds like a reasonable explanation. Don't know how I will manage it with all the work I have to do after a long holiday, but now it's become a challenge to get back there and take more pics.

I didn't see the flash on display, but my salesman said earlier that they had ordered it (for me, although I didn't order it nor commit to buying the camera

). I'll ask about it when I go there again, although I suspect that all they will show me is the box since there isn't one on display.

Helen

R2D2 said:
In looking at your flash shots, the flash is balanced with the
ambient light.

Since the flash fires at "first curtain" (flash fires first, then
ambient light exposure is made afterward), then the camera shake
exhibited in say image DSC00026 could be attributed to moving the
camera immediately after the flash fired. I had to readjust after
my first flash pictures didn't turn out right.

I'm quite impressed with the nice balance of flash and ambient
light in the shots (IMO the 717 leans a little heavily on the flash
in Fill Flash or Twilight Portrait Mode). And did you all notice
the HVL-IRM accessory on the display?

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R2D2 · May 26, 2003

It's good to hear from someone who's actually had one in their hands!

Helen Betts said:
I didn't see the flash on display, but my salesman said earlier
that they had ordered it (for me, although I didn't order it nor
commit to buying the camera ). I'll ask about it when I go there
again, although I suspect that all they will show me is the box
since there isn't one on display.

Helen

I had just noticed the HVL-IRM Infrared illuminator on the accessory sign.
(extends "Night-Shot" to 100 feet)
LOL
R2

Tanglefoot1947 · May 26, 2003

Actually I am very pleased with the results. I did the same thing with the Oly 5050 in CC and they didn't turn out anywhere near as good as these shots. Boy I can't wait until I see that delivery truck show up at my front door. Thanks Helen
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SOL #82371 · May 26, 2003

well, as I expected the camera is nothing extraordinary and my s45 gets better results then this using auto mode (except for red eye problem) I don't see anything to be excitied here. Camera is not very compact, images are not any better then the cameras that already out. So, the question is why would you want to get one? Just because it's something new? I am surprised that some people with 717 want to get V1, what's the point? there is no substitute for 717...

Helen Betts said:
I didn't see the flash on display, but my salesman said earlier
that they had ordered it (for me, although I didn't order it nor
commit to buying the camera ). I'll ask about it when I go there
again, although I suspect that all they will show me is the box
since there isn't one on display.

Helen

R2D2 said:

In looking at your flash shots, the flash is balanced with the
ambient light.

Since the flash fires at "first curtain" (flash fires first, then
ambient light exposure is made afterward), then the camera shake
exhibited in say image DSC00026 could be attributed to moving the
camera immediately after the flash fired. I had to readjust after
my first flash pictures didn't turn out right.

I'm quite impressed with the nice balance of flash and ambient
light in the shots (IMO the 717 leans a little heavily on the flash
in Fill Flash or Twilight Portrait Mode). And did you all notice
the HVL-IRM accessory on the display?

Click to expand...

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Davidas · May 26, 2003

Thanks for the pioneering effort, Helen. Looking forward...

All the best,

David

Helen Betts said:
Well, instead of going home to work tonight, I got off the airplane
from the outer islands, dropped my luggage at the house and went up
to Kitamura Camera to play with the new V1...

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David A Smith

Davidas · May 26, 2003

Hi Helen,

I guess I could call it pocketable, but then again, my wife says most people carry a briefcase or Lands' End bag for what I try to get in my pockets! ;-}

Helen Betts said:
Well, I don't have many pockets -- I'd carry it in my purse, which
would be just fine. But I asked my husband, and he feels it's too
thick to fit in any pockets he has.

Helen

RichR8 said:

Thanks Hellen. I'll bet this will be a hot thread.
Would you consider the V1 a, "pocketable camers?"

warm regards,
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Davidas · May 26, 2003

Being new to digicams, what does one have to do to lock focus? On this cam do you have to pull your eye away from the EVF? Turn a knob?

All the best,

David

Greg Gebhardt said:
Helen Betts said:

Well, instead of going home to work tonight, I got off the airplane
from the outer islands, dropped my luggage at the house and went up
to Kitamura Camera to play with the new V1> --

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Considering the conditions, I like what I see from the V1. What
did you think of the camera its self. I understand that after your
lock focus there is NO shutter lag. Give us your opinion. Thanks

Greg
Jax, FL

Greg Gebhardt Nikon D1 & D1x. Sony 717, V1 (i wish), Epson 2200 & PS7
Jacksonville, Florida

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Greg Gebhardt · May 26, 2003

DigitalDoggie said:
I am sure this focus problem will be solved by sending the unit
back to Sony service for a "Parmeter Fix". Anyone that buys ANY of
the first 10,000 or so V1's would have to be described as an
optimist. Sony never gets their initial batch of high end cameras
right.

Lets start the "Bad Focus Serial Number Range" thread right now.

BTW, I have a Sony F717 and love it, so I am not a lurking Sony
basher. But, both my 707 and 717 had problems and had to be sent
back. Screw me twice, shame on me....

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Greg Gebhardt · May 26, 2003

Helen Betts said:
I didn't see the flash on display, but my salesman said earlier
that they had ordered it (for me, although I didn't order it nor
commit to buying the camera ). I'll ask about it when I go there
again, although I suspect that all they will show me is the box
since there isn't one on display.

Helen

R2D2 said:

In looking at your flash shots, the flash is balanced with the
ambient light.

Since the flash fires at "first curtain" (flash fires first, then
ambient light exposure is made afterward), then the camera shake
exhibited in say image DSC00026 could be attributed to moving the
camera immediately after the flash fired. I had to readjust after
my first flash pictures didn't turn out right.

I'm quite impressed with the nice balance of flash and ambient
light in the shots (IMO the 717 leans a little heavily on the flash
in Fill Flash or Twilight Portrait Mode). And did you all notice
the HVL-IRM accessory on the display?

Click to expand...

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You are very lucky. You are where they are being released first. I would still be there. On second thought, I would have bought it and the F32X. With a little luck I will have both in a few weeks.

Greg Gebhardt Nikon D1 & D1x. Sony 717, V1 (i wish), Epson 2200 & PS7
Jacksonville, Florida

Greg Gebhardt · May 26, 2003

Tanglefoot1947 said:
Actually I am very pleased with the results. I did the same thing
with the Oly 5050 in CC and they didn't turn out anywhere near as
good as these shots. Boy I can't wait until I see that delivery
truck show up at my front door. Thanks Helen
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For quick in store shots, I was not dissapointed. I hope Helen went back today and bought it so we can see some outdoor shots.

Greg Gebhardt Nikon D1 & D1x. Sony 717, V1 (i wish), Epson 2200 & PS7
Jacksonville, Florida

DigitalDoggie · May 26, 2003

You're asleep... perfect customer for initial batch of V1's

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Greg Gebhardt · May 26, 2003

DigitalDoggie said:
You're asleep... perfect customer for initial batch of V1's

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The cost of a V1 is very small.

Greg Gebhardt Nikon D1 & D1x. Sony 717, V1 (i wish), Epson 2200 & PS7
Jacksonville, Florida

Ulysses · May 26, 2003

Heheh... I don't know that I'd go THAT far.

Let's not start the Wallet Wars. ;-)

Greg Gebhardt said:
The cost of a V1 is very small.

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