CollBaxter
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Why do most posters say "M43"?
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tkbslc
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Now you made me look it up. alt-m doesn't do that on my Windows 7 computer. I have to type alt+0181 to get a µ symbol and I'm going to forget that in about 10 minutes.Barry Stewart wrote:
If you can do Shift-m for a capital M, you can do a alt(option)-m for a µtkbslc wrote:
And I am too lazy (and frankly just don't care enough) to pull up character map or memorize ascii hotkeys to satisfy the more pedantic members of our forum!
Sometimes I also forget to capitalize canon and nikon, too.
How about you just read my m's as µ's? That's a lot easier for me. And as I mentioned above, I really don't care. People know what m43 means and that is good enough for me.
tkbslc
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We aren't talking digits or measurements, we are talking about a name. It's the same reason that we use MS for Microsoft and not µs. Olympus did not use the name because the number .000001333 means anything to the system.
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Tan68
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Well, that is because 'mm' is a metric thing. Just as you would never see 2.0in, you would never see 2.0 " because 2.0" is prettier. I agree 35mm is good. Sometimes there is a '.' after 'in' for 'in.'. Haven't ever seen 'mm.'.
And this depends on how far you want to throw the lens. If it is going to be thrown to a receiver on a 12 yard down and out, then 1/100 of a degree doesn't matter. If the lens is launched toward the sun, then greater precision might be good.
However, if you aim for the receiver with a measured resolution of 1.97 degrees, simply dubbing it 1.968503937007874 degrees for the trip to the sun introduces as much uncertainty as accuracy.
Yeah, one is a measurement of length and the other arc. Just trying to make a point... Mixed metaphors got nothing on me :^|
Tan68
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It gets messier still. Hyphenated words are used for things like Fresnell-type lens. Maybe...
Commas are sometimes used for multiple adjectives describing a thing. 'Big, red dog' is different from 'Big Red dog'. 'Big-red dog' is just wrong.
So, would we follow the 'big,red' paradigm for have '50,mm lens' or the hyphen thing. I admit I have seen 50-mm...
Commas are sometimes used for multiple adjectives describing a thing. 'Big, red dog' is different from 'Big Red dog'. 'Big-red dog' is just wrong.
So, would we follow the 'big,red' paradigm for have '50,mm lens' or the hyphen thing. I admit I have seen 50-mm...
Tan68
Veteran Member
I use a circle with a punct in the middle for 'around'. Depending on context, it may also mean 'about' but I mostly use ~ for 'about'.
According to Dan Brown, I misuse the circle/punct symbol.
I don't care.
- - - - Speaking of Dan, I wonder what Dr./DR/Dr Langdon could make of this thread...
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Joel Halbert
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Note I mentioned "when they act together to modify the noun". Big and red are independent adjectives, thus no hyphen. "Big-toothed dog" should get the hyphen.
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Tan68
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I see and do use hyphens that way as well.
'big-toothed' is very different from 'big, toothed'
Big-red could mean over saturated...
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Tim A2
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I am just happy to see something worthwhile discussed in this thread. I never had to think about it, because the style guides said add a space between the number and the unit, so that was that. I have seen style guides in non-technical areasthat said to omit the space.
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Tim A2
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I'll bet those good Leica lenses are made with such precision that you need all those digits to be accurate. A 50 mm Canon, Nikon, etc, you could probably get by with "about 50 mm or so". But if I had to pick one to throw or launch it probably wouldn''t be the Leica.
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MAubrey
Senior Member
Quite.
Maybe someone should start a post arguing that we should really be calling the system:
μίκρος τέτταρες τρεῖς
SDPharm
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So, what do people say this in the rest of the world?
I'm a scientist, µ means 10^-6, as in 1µL is 1/1000 of a mL which is 1/1000 of a liter. µ43 does not make any sense to me. 10^-6 of what?
SDPharm
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That, I absolutely agree. Olympus has the worse model names. If you look at the thread titles here, people already spelled E-M1 in many different ways.
SterlingBjorndahl
Senior Member
What, that's the ONLY thing the word 'micro' means, is an SI prefix?
We're not talking about refereed publication here. We're talking about vernacular abbreviations. I've used the letter µ to abbreviate a lot of instances of the word (or prefex) "micro", when writing informally.
To say that µ "means" 10^6 is an oversimplification. It's shorthand for the word/prefix "micro" too.
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SterlingBjorndahl
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That gives me an idea for a book! I call dibs on the copyright!
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onlooker
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You need to read his post again, this time carefully - before responding.
Mike_PEAT
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I don't know how to generate a "μ"...I only got that one and the one in the subject by copying and pasting from your post!
Some people type a "u" instead.
That doesn't bother me compared to teh mis-use of the term "crop factor" referring to ANY sensor smaller than the misnamed " full frame"! It's multiplication factor, NOT crop factor!
Some people type a "u" instead.
That doesn't bother me compared to teh mis-use of the term "crop factor" referring to ANY sensor smaller than the misnamed " full frame"! It's multiplication factor, NOT crop factor!
John King
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Gidday Mike
It's one of those symbol characters that I have engraved in my frontal lobes somewhere.
µ = Alt+0181
Besides µ = Mu, therefore MFT is more or less correct, according to the nomenclature used by Olympus and Panasonic, et. al.
° = Alt+0176
é = Alt+0233
± = Alt+0177
² = Alt+0178
³ = Alt+0179
etc ... Don't type the "+" sign; keep the "Alt" key depressed while typing in the numbers ... ;-)
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It's one of those symbol characters that I have engraved in my frontal lobes somewhere.
µ = Alt+0181
Besides µ = Mu, therefore MFT is more or less correct, according to the nomenclature used by Olympus and Panasonic, et. al.
° = Alt+0176
é = Alt+0233
± = Alt+0177
² = Alt+0178
³ = Alt+0179
etc ... Don't type the "+" sign; keep the "Alt" key depressed while typing in the numbers ... ;-)
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Regards, john from Melbourne, Australia.
(see profile for current gear)
Please do not embed images from my web site without prior permission
I consider this to be a breach of my copyright.
-- -- --
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The Camera doth not make the Man (nor Woman) ...
Perhaps being kind to cats, dogs & children does ...
.
I am a Photography Aficionado ... and ...
"I don't have any problems with John. He is a crotchety old Aussie. He will smack you if you behave like a {deleted}. Goes with the territory." boggis the cat
.
Gallery: http://canopuscomputing.com.au/gallery2/v/main-page/
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Barry Stewart
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I suspect it would be a pain on a smart phone or Pad, with limited keys.
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