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Greetings,

I'll be in NYC for the Open in a few weeks and would like to bring my kit (5dII, 70-200, 1.4x TC, 16-35 and 24-105) onto the grounds and was wondering if any of you had personal experience with this? I did a search but couldn't really find the answer on here. When visiting the US Open site, they don't specify "no camera gear" except for commercial video cams. See below. Any thoughts? Don't want to haul my gear there and then get denied. Thanks.

"Safety is one of our highest priorities at the US Open, and we will continue to take every reasonable step to ensure the safety of everyone entering the USTA Billie Jean King National Tennis Center gates. We will once again be implementing several important security measures in conjunction with Local, State, and Federal law enforcement agencies:

We encourage you to arrive early to avoid delays and help to speed the entry of all spectators.

All fans will go through a screening process before passing through the USTA Billie Jean King National Tennis Center entry gates.

There will be a limit of one bag per person admitted onto the grounds.

All bags are subject to search, must be a single compartment and cannot be larger than 12"Wx12"Hx16"L.

There will be no bag storage on the grounds. For a nominal charge, there is a bag storage facility outside the grounds.

Speed lines for those fans without bags will be available at all gates.

The following items are prohibited and MAY NOT be brought onto the premises:

sealed packages of any kind;
briefcases;
ALL knapsacks/ALL backpacks ;
hard coolers or like containers;
glass bottles or cans;
aerosol cans or noisemaking devices;
alcoholic beverages;
commercial video cameras or recording devices;
computers or laptops;
food (except in limited quantities, or for medical, dietary or infant purposes);
weapons (regardless of permit);
pets (unless a service animal);
flags, banners or signs;
any materials constituting unauthorized advertising or promotion;
laser pointing devices;
tennis racquets;
bicycles; scooters of any type; in-line skates; roller skates; skateboards;

and any other items deemed unlawful or dangerous by the USTA and/or US Open personnel, in its sole discretion.

Your cooperation, patience and understanding is greatly appreciated as we enhance and expand our security efforts to make your visit to the US Open safe and enjoyable.

Thank you for your continued support and patronage."
 
commercial video cameras or recording devices;
A 5D is a commercial video camera.

I would contact them by email/snail mail about that ASAP with all the equipment you want to bring in, and in the case that you can bring all that (or only a part of it), have a written confirmation with you all the time and if you can also have a written confirmation in a real snail mail or fax format that would be better.

anyway, don't mark my words.

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I don't think it is considered a commercial video camera. It has been used as thus but that is not its primary design purpose. I would think the recording device description would be more apt to apply. Recording device can cover anything from video, film, digital or audio that is of commercial grade.
commercial video cameras or recording devices;
A 5D is a commercial video camera.

I would contact them by email/snail mail about that ASAP with all the equipment you want to bring in, and in the case that you can bring all that (or only a part of it), have a written confirmation with you all the time and if you can also have a written confirmation in a real snail mail or fax format that would be better.

anyway, don't mark my words.

--
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thesorus/
 
You'll be fine. Policy is one thing and getting through security is another. The policy has remained the same for years, even after the 5D Mk II and other hybrid SLR's came out.

Security does not prevent SLR's. I've been shooting the US Open for 4 years now and have never been denied, and I bring 2 SLR bodies. Only once was I questioned by a young trainee, but was superceded by her superior who said "big cameras are fine".

Calling the US Open front desk will only get them to quote what's on their website.

What I do every year is print out a copy of the security policy and if I receive any difficulties, show them the official policy. I haven't had the need to do this, but just in case.

Don't advertise that the 5D Mk II takes video.

I usually have my camera over my shoulder so it looks like I'm not hiding anything.

I will say that they have a zero tolerance on backpacks. Security isn't mean about it, but they really do enforce the no backpack rule. If you accidentally do show up with a backpack, they DO have baggage storage RIGHT OUTSIDE the entrance gates. But inside there isn't one. They don't advertise it for a reason. Use a fanny pack, shoulder bag, or camera holster.

Enjoy the US Open. Drink lots of water, there's little shade and its gets really hot there. I've been in 2 matches last year where people fainted. Wear a hat. Water is expensive to buy, but bring a canteen and there's a few fountains (never enough).
Greetings,

I'll be in NYC for the Open in a few weeks and would like to bring my kit (5dII, 70-200, 1.4x TC, 16-35 and 24-105) onto the grounds and was wondering if any of you had personal experience with this? I did a search but couldn't really find the answer on here. When visiting the US Open site, they don't specify "no camera gear" except for commercial video cams. See below. Any thoughts? Don't want to haul my gear there and then get denied. Thanks.

"Safety is one of our highest priorities at the US Open, and we will continue to take every reasonable step to ensure the safety of everyone entering the USTA Billie Jean King National Tennis Center gates. We will once again be implementing several important security measures in conjunction with Local, State, and Federal law enforcement agencies:

We encourage you to arrive early to avoid delays and help to speed the entry of all spectators.

All fans will go through a screening process before passing through the USTA Billie Jean King National Tennis Center entry gates.

There will be a limit of one bag per person admitted onto the grounds.

All bags are subject to search, must be a single compartment and cannot be larger than 12"Wx12"Hx16"L.

There will be no bag storage on the grounds. For a nominal charge, there is a bag storage facility outside the grounds.

Speed lines for those fans without bags will be available at all gates.

The following items are prohibited and MAY NOT be brought onto the premises:

sealed packages of any kind;
briefcases;
ALL knapsacks/ALL backpacks ;
hard coolers or like containers;
glass bottles or cans;
aerosol cans or noisemaking devices;
alcoholic beverages;
commercial video cameras or recording devices;
computers or laptops;
food (except in limited quantities, or for medical, dietary or infant purposes);
weapons (regardless of permit);
pets (unless a service animal);
flags, banners or signs;
any materials constituting unauthorized advertising or promotion;
laser pointing devices;
tennis racquets;
bicycles; scooters of any type; in-line skates; roller skates; skateboards;

and any other items deemed unlawful or dangerous by the USTA and/or US Open personnel, in its sole discretion.

Your cooperation, patience and understanding is greatly appreciated as we enhance and expand our security efforts to make your visit to the US Open safe and enjoyable.

Thank you for your continued support and patronage."
 
I attended several sessions of the U.S. Open in 2007 and they let me in with a 300mm F2.8 L, 70-300 and a wide angle or fisheye (can't remember which -- think it may have been the 10-22 since I was using a 20D back then). I got some great shots of Justine Henin using both the 1.4x and 2x teleconverters with the 300.

Unless things have changed since then, I wouldn't expect you to have any problems as long as the bag you carry in fits within the maximum dimensional limits. The bag I used wasn't a traditional camera bag (no backpacks permitted regardless of size as I recall), but more like a high quality, well made carryall. It seems highly unlikely to me that security would let in a 1D Mark III but not a Mark IV because the latter has video capability.

On the other hand, it would be a big risk if they still make you check any impermissible items in a tent outside the entrance. I wouldn't have been willing to leave my 300L out there if they hadn't let me take it into the grounds.
 
Excellent, thanks for the info and suggestions guys! Much appreciated. I'll print out the security page as suggested just in case. I was planning to bring my shoulder bag anyway so that works great.

Looking forward to it. Got tickets to the Quarter finals so should be some good matches. :)
 
if you can
get tickets to the Kids day event, the weekend before events start

during this, you can get pretty much on court level; if you are not a press member. and with your 200mm and 1.4, can get closes up shots of the stars!

i used my son's d60 and the 18-200 and got these shots.
i wished i had my canon 5dm2 and 70-200+1.4 last year...

this was my son's video and photos from last year's kids day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adf9GTtxgpM
Excellent, thanks for the info and suggestions guys! Much appreciated. I'll print out the security page as suggested just in case. I was planning to bring my shoulder bag anyway so that works great.

Looking forward to it. Got tickets to the Quarter finals so should be some good matches. :)
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http://www.youtube.com/paulchiu
 
Week before the US Open and the weekend before there's the qualifier rounds and practice. You only need tickets to enter Arthur Ashe for the Kids Day event but its free to enter before the start of the tournament. All courts (including Armstrong and Grandstand but except Ashe) you can sit anywhere that week/weekend.

Check the website. You get to see some good matches as players play their hearts out to make the tournament.
during this, you can get pretty much on court level; if you are not a press member. and with your 200mm and 1.4, can get closes up shots of the stars!

i used my son's d60 and the 18-200 and got these shots.
i wished i had my canon 5dm2 and 70-200+1.4 last year...

this was my son's video and photos from last year's kids day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adf9GTtxgpM
Excellent, thanks for the info and suggestions guys! Much appreciated. I'll print out the security page as suggested just in case. I was planning to bring my shoulder bag anyway so that works great.

Looking forward to it. Got tickets to the Quarter finals so should be some good matches. :)
--
http://www.BillyChiu.com
http://www.youtube.com/paulchiu
 
Hi

Was wondering how you got on with taking your camera gear to the Tennis?
I'm going to in September and want to take my 5dMk3 and a 70-200 L 2.8. Would be grateful for any advice.

Kind regards
 
Shakes77 wrote:

Hi

Was wondering how you got on with taking your camera gear to the Tennis?
I'm going to in September and want to take my 5dMk3 and a 70-200 L 2.8. Would be grateful for any advice.

Kind regards
He hasn't posted since Dec of 2011, so you may have to be patient waiting for an answer.
 
Shakes77 wrote:

Hi

Was wondering how you got on with taking your camera gear to the Tennis?
I'm going to in September and want to take my 5dMk3 and a 70-200 L 2.8. Would be grateful for any advice.

Kind regards
They are very camera friendly. I even took in not just my 70-300L but my 300 2.8 IS and TCs, yes super-teles are allowed even in the main venues (I did use silent shutter a lot to keep noise down).

They are really awesome.

One tricky thing is there can be hellacious heat wave mirages when shooting from the stands which makes it tricky, AF can go nuts and sometimes there is no sharp point anywhere on an image so you might have to be careful and at times shots might not work out.

But you can get cool shots from the stands.

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Your 5D2 and all lenses you listed are fine. I have seen many photos from 5D2 in previous US Open games. Usually thumb of rule is that lens cannot more than 6" long so 70-200L/2.8 IS II just qualified but may not 300L/2.8 IS II.
 
qianp2k wrote:

Your 5D2 and all lenses you listed are fine. I have seen many photos from 5D2 in previous US Open games. Usually thumb of rule is that lens cannot more than 6" long so 70-200L/2.8 IS II just qualified but may not 300L/2.8 IS II.
You might want to contact OP directly with your advice/reply to his post as it's been a very long time since he last posted on DPR.
 
Markvfr,

I think all your questions and more about the US Open is explained in this youtube video originally produced by B&H Photo Video. It is a how-to seminar on photgraphing tennis from a pro and gives lots of details about the Open, including photography etiquette, what lenses to bring, detailed shooting locations, and how to plan for the event.


I used to go to the US Open qualifying rounds every year until I decided that I could not spend the day outdoors in the NYC August heat. In case you did not know, the qualifying rounds are for free and unranked world class pros compete for several places in the tournament. They play their hearts out for a chance to compete in the tournament and the efforts and drama by these players offers a fantastic photo op. Also, during the qualifying many top pros are practicing in the available courts with minimal crouds, and offering good photo ops.

Here's another tip: If you drive to the event and want to avoid the abusive parking fee at the US Open, park your car on the street by 108th or 111th Street near 50th Avenue, and walk to the Tennis Center. (Yes its a bit of a walk, and yes its safe area to leave your car.) check out Google Maps for details. Otherwise take the #7 train.

Last tip: Plan on spending some time photgraphing by the Unisphere, located just South of the Tennis Center. The fountains are always on during the US Open and its a great photo op. I like to go to the Unisphere at night too with a tripod.

regards,

Tippler
 
qianp2k wrote:

Your 5D2 and all lenses you listed are fine. I have seen many photos from 5D2 in previous US Open games. Usually thumb of rule is that lens cannot more than 6" long so 70-200L/2.8 IS II just qualified but may not 300L/2.8 IS II.
 
I've been to US Open almost every year in last couple of years, in general, it's a photographer's friendly event, which means you can bring 300mm 2.8 and 1D to the event ( I only been questioned once for 300mm 2.8, but was fine after some argument), here are some of my tips:

Equipment: The Pro's staple lens for tennis is 400mm 2.8, I don't have one, but I can us 700-200mm+ 2x, or 300mm 2.8 + 1.4x. Close up shots are the way to go for today's tennis photography, you only need peak action and very tied framing in most cases.

Seating: For us without press credential, unless you pay thousands of dollars to get very good seats, otherwise you will find you are too far away to take close up shots even you have the reach of 400mm. The best bet to get court side seat is at qualifying round, which not only free to get in, you also have the chance to shoot top 10 players at court side distance when they are practicing. At 1st round, just get a ground admission ticket, a lot of top ranking players are playing at courts outside of stadium, you can get close range to shoot.

I've been to last year's men's final, shot with 1Dx and 300mm 2.8 + 2x, I had 600mm focal length, but my seat was still far away from court. The shots were not great, but at least there were some memorable photos.







































 

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