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Camera Phone vs M43
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DerpyWebber
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4K video in a smartphone? When only high-end, top-of-the-line, dedicated video cameras can do so currently? In a close-to Cine aspect ratio that would waste half the screen on your typical viewing consumer-level viewing device (which wouldn't even have enough pixels to take advantage of 2K video, much less 4K video)? With zero depth of field control, this isn't going to appeal to anyone serious about videography. It would be a futile exercise in specsturbation at best, and even ridiculously compressed it would eat up storage space within seconds.
I'm calling bs.
That, and it amazes me how people still equate megapixels with overall IQ in this day and age.
Impulses
Forum Pro
CAMERA sales are down, but as far as I know, interchangeable lens camera sales are still INCREASING.
This is because people are using smartphones as their basic camera, and then when some people decide they need a better camera than a smartphone, they will jump right up into a high-end type of camera.
It's not just about resolution; the quality and complexity of the lens is equally (or arguably more important) than the sensor. From a marketing perspective, phone companies aren't likely to create more bulky phones in order to accommodate proper lenses into them.
Cameras will not get replaced by phones that can take photos. If anything, companies may start making cameras that can make phone calls.
Savas Kyprianides
Senior Member
Obsolescence won't happen with assurance as the OP predicts. What will occur is that we'll be seeing a lot of high resolution crappy photographs instead of the lower resolution ones we've already seen.
omarspencephotography
New member
A camera wit larger, sharper optics with a larger sensor behind it will always outperform one with smaller optics and smaller sensor no matter how many megapixels are on that sensor. No matter how many technological bells and wistles manufacturers put in, the properties of light never change - the bigger the area collecting the light, the better the image. Camera phone images lack the depth and clarity that real cameras have and the image files do not have nearly the amount of latitude that those from real cameras have. High megapixel camera phones will only mean bigger crappy images.
slimandy
Forum Pro
The main advantage of a smartphone is that it is always in your pocket. If you are going to carry lens attachments you might as well take a proper camera. However good camera phones get the latest MFT camera (and others) will always be better.
larsbc
Forum Pro
Lens attachments add bulk, reducing the phone's advantage of small size and ability to react to spontaneous situations. I think only a very small percentage of phone users would try them out.
When I got my Galaxy Note 2, I thought that my Panasonic LX5 would be the last pocket camera I'll ever own. The Note 2's camera wasn't as good, of course, but it was still pretty decent.
But then I found out about the Sony RX100, and the Ricoh GR, and Nikon A, etc. Manufacturers have begun to really push the image boundaries of pocket cameras. I ended up buying an RX100 and am extremely surprised as just how good its 1" sensor is. I'd say it's about comparable to my GH2.
But I don't doubt that smartphones have eaten into camera sales. Specifically, they've eaten into the inexpensive pocket camera sales. But it appears that premium small cameras will still have a market if they keep pushing the technological envelope. Flip-out screens, dedicated control buttons, ergonomics designed for photography, electronic viewfinders, better image stabilization, larger sensors, wifi/bluetooth/nfc connectivity, etc are all features that will keep pocket cameras relevant in the near future.
Kung Pao Panda
Veteran Member
Agree.
George and Martha with a couple of small rug rats in tow will choose the camera phone more often than carrying additional gear like a MFT kit or P&S because not being Gearheads or Pixel Peepers, they only interested in making memory snaps. No need for figuring out f stops, aperture, ISO, etc.
Almost everyone nowadays carries a smartphone all the time, but not everyone always carries a camera all the time.
IMO, smartphones are the new "P&S" . And getting really good.
George and Martha with a couple of small rug rats in tow will choose the camera phone more often than carrying additional gear like a MFT kit or P&S because not being Gearheads or Pixel Peepers, they only interested in making memory snaps. No need for figuring out f stops, aperture, ISO, etc.
Almost everyone nowadays carries a smartphone all the time, but not everyone always carries a camera all the time.
IMO, smartphones are the new "P&S" . And getting really good.
Snapshot7
Forum Enthusiast
Not going to happen.
One of the BIGGEST draws and reasons why smartphones are being used to take pictures more & more is because they are Always with us. Smartphones are carried everyday by more and more people. It is the fact that these smartphones are Right There & Always With Us that has caused their increased use.
It's hard to take a photo if you don't have a camera with you.
But since IQ is about MORE than Megapixels, Smartphones would need attachments to even come close to the performance and abilities of current System and even P&S cameras. But folks won't want to carry those attachments any more than they want to carry around dedicated cameras.
So while smartphones will continue to be used more and more to take pictures & videos, they will never surpass or even match dedicated cameras.
mpgxsvcd
Veteran Member
He is right. Most people will use a phone as their camera and they will never own an interchangeable lens camera. For most people that is sufficient. For everyone else it is not.
I have a great camera phone and I have a great m4/3s kit. I use the phone only when I don't have the camera.
I have a great camera phone and I have a great m4/3s kit. I use the phone only when I don't have the camera.
mpgxsvcd
Veteran Member
I gave you a like because that was superb trolling.
The advantage m43 has over smartphones is not megapixels. It's sensor size. No smartphone will ever have the sensor size of m43 (the Galaxy NX doesn't count, it's a camera that's had Android added to it, not a smartphone that's had a decent camera added to it).
Go learn.
Put "larger sensor more light better" into Google.
Once you understand, come back.
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