Okay, so WHO’s TEMPTED by the FZ70?

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Well folks, unless you live on the moon, by now you’ve probably read or heard the rumours that there ‘may not’ be a FZ250 released this year (and by FZ250, I mean a brand new flagship model that actually replaces the current FZ200).

Personally, I’m waiting until at least the end of August 2013 to see if the only FZ camera to be announced this year is to be the FZ70. But even if we do see the anticipated FZ200 replacement this side of 2014, unlike some, I do not expect such a machine to maintain a constant F2.8 aperture as the FZ200 can. I may be wrong, but whenever it eventually does materialise, I fully expect the FZ200’s successor to have a much longer reach than the current 600mm; more along the lines of the 1200mm focal length announced on the FZ70 – the replacement for last year’s FZ60.

When it is announced, I also expect the FZ250 to boast a lens again designed by Leica and to don the appropriate brand name on the front casing. An additional guess is that F4.5 will be the maximum aperture achievable at a long end reaching anywhere from 1,000 to 1200mm. obviously, no matter what I write in terms of the FZ250, it is pure speculation at this stage. Yet it is my strong suspicion that the FZ200’s current bright lens will become longer and slower than F2.8 in its next incarnation, which makes the already announced FZ70 so attractive a proposition for my main hobby of wildlife photography. The fact is, an already available 1200mm reduces any current need I have to double the 600 mm of my FZ150 with my Raynox 2.2x T.C. The maximum aperture of my FZ150 is F5.2, and that of the FZ70 is F5.9, so I’ll lose very little light in comparison with a generally less cumbersome setup. And it will be very interesting to see exactly the point along the FZ70’s zoom that the aperture closes to the F5.2 associated with my FZ150 at 600mm. Could it be that the FZ70 allows 750/800mm or longer before the aperture reduces beyond, say, F5, with the final 300/400mm showing a gradual dimming to the max of F5.9? Anything would arguably be a bonus here. :-)

And what about the new sensor? Could it be that the 16mp FZ70 churns out images that are equally as nice and perhaps lend themselves more to larger crops, as those rendered by the 12mp FZ150? I’ve so many questions. ;-)

So, personally I just cannot wait to see exactly what the FZ70 offers when it hits the shops. Although I’ll hang on a while longer to see whether or not those FZ250 rumours are true (because I’d prefer to own a flagship update with additional gadgets and a lens barrel zoom lever like that on the 150), the fact that the FZ70 has already been announced makes it a viable proposition indeed – especially for folks like me who are always looking to extend focal lengths as far as possible. For me, in the absence of a true FZ200 upgrade, the 1200 mm reach of the apparent value-for-money FZ70 just might prove too hard to resist this year. :-)

So, whether you view it as a toy or not, is anyone else tempted by the FZ70’s feature set?

Regards and happy snapping,

Stevie Boy

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The inferior EVF and fixed LCD of the FZ70 are deal-killers for me. At that, I am unlikely to be interested in an FZ200 replacement unless the EVF is enlarged - while sharp, the FZ200's EVF is too squinchy and for no good reason. It should've been the equal or better in size of the EVF on my GH1.
 
Have one on order, will compare to my FZ200, if I like it will keep it. Think for the price, its worth a go.
 
Stevie Boy Blue wrote:

So, whether you view it as a toy or not, is anyone else tempted by the FZ70’s feature set?
No, from the FZ200 I am only likely to upgrade for a manual zoom, and I wouldn't want to lose the free-flight LCD, the f2.8 lens or the other FZ200 goodies.

I don't want more zoom, I was quite happy with 35-420 or 36-432 for a sharper lens.

Mike
 
Although you'd have to pry my FZ200 from my cold, dead fingers (until the FZ250 comes along ;-) ), I am tempeted by the FZ70, though not as a replacement but in addition. As you've noted, there's no need to fuss with a teleconverter and - for not much more money - I'd have a spare camera to boot.

If the FZ70 sensor is truly an improvement, that could be enough to make me go for it. [Slightly] improved croppability might be viable, but then the extra reach should trump that in spades so I don't think cropping would be improved that much except for those times when you should have gone tighter. I think those of us that use superzooms are used to trying to crop as we shoot since we lack the luxury of heavy cropping later.

I can see myself with the two cameras - one for the extra reach/width and the other for better brightness and feature set - complementing each other nicely. Now if they just used the same batteries... ;-)

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If I had an FZ150, I'd be incredibly tempted to replace with the FZ70. With the FZ200 in hand, it's more of an "in addition" than "replace".

Some of this will depend on the aperture at 600mm. If it's wide (with most of the falloff above 600) then it's a much more attractive camera than if the aperture at 600mm is small.

Sherm
 
kkardster wrote:
....I can see myself with the two cameras - one for the extra reach/width and the other for better brightness and feature set - complementing each other nicely. Now if they just used the same batteries... ;-)
 
kkardster wrote:

Although you'd have to pry my FZ200 from my cold, dead fingers (until the FZ250 comes along ;-) ), I am tempeted by the FZ70, though not as a replacement but in addition. As you've noted, there's no need to fuss with a teleconverter and - for not much more money - I'd have a spare camera to boot.
Baloney - regardless of zoom range, teleconverters will always be fussed with. :-) Likewise, WA converters.

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I share the disappointment over the EVF and fixed LCD.

And hope it is not much slower than 2.8 @ the 600mm. (Would have preferred a starting aperture of f/1.4 @ 20mm that possibly would have duplicated the f/2.8 @ 600.)

But wider than my current Nikon P-500 22.5mm has been a search for a long time. (But still hoping an adapter is available to get to at least 14mm.)

SO I WILL get the FZ-70 and hope the new sensor provides improved IQ. (And hope the non-Leica lens is "sharp" since my P-500 is very bad at full-tele 800mm.)

But I will really miss the articulating LCD for overhead & on-ground shooting.
 
Tom K. wrote:
kkardster wrote:

Although you'd have to pry my FZ200 from my cold, dead fingers (until the FZ250 comes along ;-) ), I am tempeted by the FZ70, though not as a replacement but in addition. As you've noted, there's no need to fuss with a teleconverter and - for not much more money - I'd have a spare camera to boot.
Baloney - regardless of zoom range, teleconverters will always be fussed with. :-) Likewise, WA converters.
Sorry if I wasn't clear - I meant that in contrast to the FZ150/200, the FZ70 allows for both doubling their reach [and going 5mm wider] with no need to fuss with a teleconverter [nor WA converter].
 
I have the FZ 200 which I love, my LX-7 is arriving tomorrow from Amazon and the FZ 70 is on pre order from Amazon. When all 3 of them are in the mix at the same time I will decide what 2 stay and what Pany goes.

Andrew
 
Tom Paull, I couldn’t agree more with your logic. At the price, the FZ70 is definitely worth a go. I hope it proves to be a good purchase for you. Good luck...
 
I fully appreciate that you value your FZ200 very highly Bruce. I feel exactly the same way about my FZ150, and there’s no way I will ever part with that particular model. Assuming I do get the FZ70, it will be very much a secondary option for my means, unless of course it turns out to be something extra special for the money. An added bonus for me, of course, is that a little bird told me a few days ago that the FZ70 will utilise the same battery as the 150 ;-), so I’ll not have to bother obtaining any spares in that department.

Indeed, the extra pixel sensor may not equate to too much in the way of extra crop-ability for images, but even a little will help regarding my own requirements. I certainly won’t be criticising anything to do with the new camera in advance of seeing examples and real-world opinions posted here because it’s far too early to make judgments. I’d like to think the chances are reasonable in terms of our seeing the improvements Panasonic are claiming in the promotional blurb.

And I can also see myself with two cameras. Despite the fact that the FZ150 lens isn’t much quicker than the 70, the oldie’s high ISO image quality will take some beating, plus I love that handy extra zoom lever positioned on the lens barrel that the FZ70 doesn’t have. Obviously the flip-out LCD on the FZ150 is a bonus too, but for a budget machine, the FZ70 looks good on paper and the 1200mm reach far too tempting for me to ignore. :-) Cheers…
 
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Exactly Sherm, 'an addition rather than a replacement', and in my opinion just for the extra reach and regardless of whether one already has a FZ200 or FZ150. :-) So I’ll assume that you’re interested then. ;-) Cheers
 

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