Time for an honest discussion about being a fan of a camera company

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Let me begin with this: I am a fan of Olympus. They are the team that I root for. Canon and Nikon are Oly's arch nemeses, the villain companies hell-bent on destroying Olympus and their superior products, vanquishing them from the industry. Maybe they secretly want to devour them and steal their technology, I don't know. Either way, I do know who are the good guys and who are the heroes and villains according to the team I have chosen to root for. Sony and Panny are usually Oly's allies while Samsung and Pentax are generally their adversaries, although they pale in comparison to the inexorable threat posed by Canikon.

Me rooting for Olympus is no different than you rooting for a sports team. You buy their apparel, brag to anyone who will listen about how much better than the competition, and especially their rivals. They may win or they may lose, but no matter what you make a substantial emotional investment in the team's short-term and long-term success. My undying allegiance to Olympus parallels your relationship with any sports team you happen to root for. I identify with the ethos of the company's camera division, if not the few shady executives who have since been ousted, and I will relentlessly fight for them and defend their cause.

There is NOTHING WRONG with the way I perceive the camera industry. You may resent it because you are jealous of my boundless enthusiasm or perhaps you just don't understand what it means to align your support with a brand or a team, but may approach is logically impregnable. It epitomizes the way humans comport themselves in any kind of competition, and if you can't understand that then it is YOU whose social paradigm should be called into question, not mine. No, you don't have to pick a side, just as you don't have to pick a team in whatever are your country's major sports leagues. It's totally fair to like all the brands or none of them. But to denigrate anyone who does choose as a fanboy just shows you to be callow and intolerant. A fanboy is nothing more than an inflammatory insult leveled at someone who's a fan of a team that you don't like, a needless and gutless personal attack against someone whose only crime was to establish that a competition does indeed exist between different teams.

I disagree with both Canon and Nikon's approach to designing and selling cameras, and I'm not shy about saying as much. But one thing I will never do is insult someone JUST BECAUSE they are a fan of Canon or Nikon. That's flat out uncalled for and suggests a degree of insecurity in one's self and one's own beliefs. My world view of the photography industry is plenty solid enough that I don't need to validate it by slamming others whose views are different. Now I will admit that I may have tread dangerously close to that line earlier when I claimed that Roger Cicala "lost his mind" because he predicted the possible demise of m4/3 by 2018. I was of course speaking figuratively, but it was probably a little bit over the to, so for that I apologize. Now in return I only ask that you accept my and others' fandom of Olympus or any other brand as reasonable, genuine, and legitimate, and keep the discussion on the brands and their products rather than on the people who support them. Thank you.

Good night and good luck,

International Grandmaster Mikhail Tal
 
Mikhail Tal wrote:

Let me begin with this: I am a fan of Olympus. They are the team that I root for. Canon and Nikon are Oly's arch nemeses, the villain companies hell-bent on destroying Olympus and their superior products, vanquishing them from the industry. Maybe they secretly want to devour them and steal their technology, I don't know. Either way, I do know who are the good guys and who are the heroes and villains according to the team I have chosen to root for. Sony and Panny are usually Oly's allies while Samsung and Pentax are generally their adversaries, although they pale in comparison to the inexorable threat posed by Canikon.

Me rooting for Olympus is no different than you rooting for a sports team. You buy their apparel, brag to anyone who will listen about how much better than the competition, and especially their rivals. They may win or they may lose, but no matter what you make a substantial emotional investment in the team's short-term and long-term success. My undying allegiance to Olympus parallels your relationship with any sports team you happen to root for. I identify with the ethos of the company's camera division, if not the few shady executives who have since been ousted, and I will relentlessly fight for them and defend their cause.

There is NOTHING WRONG with the way I perceive the camera industry. You may resent it because you are jealous of my boundless enthusiasm or perhaps you just don't understand what it means to align your support with a brand or a team, but may approach is logically impregnable. It epitomizes the way humans comport themselves in any kind of competition, and if you can't understand that then it is YOU whose social paradigm should be called into question, not mine. No, you don't have to pick a side, just as you don't have to pick a team in whatever are your country's major sports leagues. It's totally fair to like all the brands or none of them. But to denigrate anyone who does choose as a fanboy just shows you to be callow and intolerant. A fanboy is nothing more than an inflammatory insult leveled at someone who's a fan of a team that you don't like, a needless and gutless personal attack against someone whose only crime was to establish that a competition does indeed exist between different teams.

I disagree with both Canon and Nikon's approach to designing and selling cameras, and I'm not shy about saying as much. But one thing I will never do is insult someone JUST BECAUSE they are a fan of Canon or Nikon. That's flat out uncalled for and suggests a degree of insecurity in one's self and one's own beliefs. My world view of the photography industry is plenty solid enough that I don't need to validate it by slamming others whose views are different. Now I will admit that I may have tread dangerously close to that line earlier when I claimed that Roger Cicala "lost his mind" because he predicted the possible demise of m4/3 by 2018. I was of course speaking figuratively, but it was probably a little bit over the to, so for that I apologize. Now in return I only ask that you accept my and others' fandom of Olympus or any other brand as reasonable, genuine, and legitimate, and keep the discussion on the brands and their products rather than on the people who support them. Thank you.

Good night and good luck,

International Grandmaster Mikhail Tal

I am promiscuitive. At the moment mostly Sony, but this can change.
 
Mikhail Tal wrote:

Let me begin with this: I am a fan of Olympus. They are the team that I root for. Canon and Nikon are Oly's arch nemeses, the villain companies hell-bent on destroying Olympus and their superior products, vanquishing them from the industry. Maybe they secretly want to devour them and steal their technology, I don't know. Either way, I do know who are the good guys and who are the heroes and villains according to the team I have chosen to root for. Sony and Panny are usually Oly's allies while Samsung and Pentax are generally their adversaries, although they pale in comparison to the inexorable threat posed by Canikon.

Me rooting for Olympus is no different than you rooting for a sports team. You buy their apparel, brag to anyone who will listen about how much better than the competition, and especially their rivals. They may win or they may lose, but no matter what you make a substantial emotional investment in the team's short-term and long-term success. My undying allegiance to Olympus parallels your relationship with any sports team you happen to root for. I identify with the ethos of the company's camera division, if not the few shady executives who have since been ousted, and I will relentlessly fight for them and defend their cause.

There is NOTHING WRONG with the way I perceive the camera industry. You may resent it because you are jealous of my boundless enthusiasm or perhaps you just don't understand what it means to align your support with a brand or a team, but may approach is logically impregnable. It epitomizes the way humans comport themselves in any kind of competition, and if you can't understand that then it is YOU whose social paradigm should be called into question, not mine. No, you don't have to pick a side, just as you don't have to pick a team in whatever are your country's major sports leagues. It's totally fair to like all the brands or none of them. But to denigrate anyone who does choose as a fanboy just shows you to be callow and intolerant. A fanboy is nothing more than an inflammatory insult leveled at someone who's a fan of a team that you don't like, a needless and gutless personal attack against someone whose only crime was to establish that a competition does indeed exist between different teams.

I disagree with both Canon and Nikon's approach to designing and selling cameras, and I'm not shy about saying as much. But one thing I will never do is insult someone JUST BECAUSE they are a fan of Canon or Nikon. That's flat out uncalled for and suggests a degree of insecurity in one's self and one's own beliefs. My world view of the photography industry is plenty solid enough that I don't need to validate it by slamming others whose views are different. Now I will admit that I may have tread dangerously close to that line earlier when I claimed that Roger Cicala "lost his mind" because he predicted the possible demise of m4/3 by 2018. I was of course speaking figuratively, but it was probably a little bit over the to, so for that I apologize. Now in return I only ask that you accept my and others' fandom of Olympus or any other brand as reasonable, genuine, and legitimate, and keep the discussion on the brands and their products rather than on the people who support them. Thank you.

Good night and good luck,

International Grandmaster Mikhail Tal
Being honest I feel it's all a bit sad.
 
meland wrote:
Mikhail Tal wrote:

Let me begin with this: I am a fan of Olympus. They are the team that I root for. Canon and Nikon are Oly's arch nemeses, the villain companies hell-bent on destroying Olympus and their superior products, vanquishing them from the industry. Maybe they secretly want to devour them and steal their technology, I don't know. Either way, I do know who are the good guys and who are the heroes and villains according to the team I have chosen to root for. Sony and Panny are usually Oly's allies while Samsung and Pentax are generally their adversaries, although they pale in comparison to the inexorable threat posed by Canikon.

Me rooting for Olympus is no different than you rooting for a sports team. You buy their apparel, brag to anyone who will listen about how much better than the competition, and especially their rivals. They may win or they may lose, but no matter what you make a substantial emotional investment in the team's short-term and long-term success. My undying allegiance to Olympus parallels your relationship with any sports team you happen to root for. I identify with the ethos of the company's camera division, if not the few shady executives who have since been ousted, and I will relentlessly fight for them and defend their cause.

There is NOTHING WRONG with the way I perceive the camera industry. You may resent it because you are jealous of my boundless enthusiasm or perhaps you just don't understand what it means to align your support with a brand or a team, but may approach is logically impregnable. It epitomizes the way humans comport themselves in any kind of competition, and if you can't understand that then it is YOU whose social paradigm should be called into question, not mine. No, you don't have to pick a side, just as you don't have to pick a team in whatever are your country's major sports leagues. It's totally fair to like all the brands or none of them. But to denigrate anyone who does choose as a fanboy just shows you to be callow and intolerant. A fanboy is nothing more than an inflammatory insult leveled at someone who's a fan of a team that you don't like, a needless and gutless personal attack against someone whose only crime was to establish that a competition does indeed exist between different teams.

I disagree with both Canon and Nikon's approach to designing and selling cameras, and I'm not shy about saying as much. But one thing I will never do is insult someone JUST BECAUSE they are a fan of Canon or Nikon. That's flat out uncalled for and suggests a degree of insecurity in one's self and one's own beliefs. My world view of the photography industry is plenty solid enough that I don't need to validate it by slamming others whose views are different. Now I will admit that I may have tread dangerously close to that line earlier when I claimed that Roger Cicala "lost his mind" because he predicted the possible demise of m4/3 by 2018. I was of course speaking figuratively, but it was probably a little bit over the to, so for that I apologize. Now in return I only ask that you accept my and others' fandom of Olympus or any other brand as reasonable, genuine, and legitimate, and keep the discussion on the brands and their products rather than on the people who support them. Thank you.

Good night and good luck,

International Grandmaster Mikhail Tal
Being honest I feel it's all a bit sad.
If a third party lens maker came out with a 200-400 F 4 IS Zoom and sold it for 1500 Dollars. Then I would like to see the faces in the Canon camp! :-D
 
More interested in the photos. Do you have any that are way above Canon and Nikon. Particularly high speed action shots, nature or sports ??

Just curious.

Danny.
 
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Mikhail Tal wrote:

Let me begin with this: I am a fan of Olympus. They are the team that I root for. Canon and Nikon are Oly's arch nemeses, the villain companies hell-bent on destroying Olympus and their superior products, vanquishing them from the industry. Maybe they secretly want to devour them and steal their technology, I don't know. Either way, I do know who are the good guys and who are the heroes and villains according to the team I have chosen to root for. Sony and Panny are usually Oly's allies while Samsung and Pentax are generally their adversaries, although they pale in comparison to the inexorable threat posed by Canikon.

Me rooting for Olympus is no different than you rooting for a sports team. You buy their apparel, brag to anyone who will listen about how much better than the competition, and especially their rivals. They may win or they may lose, but no matter what you make a substantial emotional investment in the team's short-term and long-term success. My undying allegiance to Olympus parallels your relationship with any sports team you happen to root for. I identify with the ethos of the company's camera division, if not the few shady executives who have since been ousted, and I will relentlessly fight for them and defend their cause.

There is NOTHING WRONG with the way I perceive the camera industry. You may resent it because you are jealous of my boundless enthusiasm or perhaps you just don't understand what it means to align your support with a brand or a team, but may approach is logically impregnable. It epitomizes the way humans comport themselves in any kind of competition, and if you can't understand that then it is YOU whose social paradigm should be called into question, not mine. No, you don't have to pick a side, just as you don't have to pick a team in whatever are your country's major sports leagues. It's totally fair to like all the brands or none of them. But to denigrate anyone who does choose as a fanboy just shows you to be callow and intolerant. A fanboy is nothing more than an inflammatory insult leveled at someone who's a fan of a team that you don't like, a needless and gutless personal attack against someone whose only crime was to establish that a competition does indeed exist between different teams.

I disagree with both Canon and Nikon's approach to designing and selling cameras, and I'm not shy about saying as much. But one thing I will never do is insult someone JUST BECAUSE they are a fan of Canon or Nikon. That's flat out uncalled for and suggests a degree of insecurity in one's self and one's own beliefs. My world view of the photography industry is plenty solid enough that I don't need to validate it by slamming others whose views are different. Now I will admit that I may have tread dangerously close to that line earlier when I claimed that Roger Cicala "lost his mind" because he predicted the possible demise of m4/3 by 2018. I was of course speaking figuratively, but it was probably a little bit over the to, so for that I apologize. Now in return I only ask that you accept my and others' fandom of Olympus or any other brand as reasonable, genuine, and legitimate, and keep the discussion on the brands and their products rather than on the people who support them. Thank you.

Good night and good luck,

International Grandmaster Mikhail Tal
The clear difference comes between preffering the products produces by a brand and being a fan of the brand itself, when you move into the latter you stop being interested in photography and start becoming emotionally attached to a company who only view you as a source of profit.

As to whether this is "bad" I don't really care about whether it hurts your own photography/bank balance, I do care that you waste everyones time here with your fanboyism so yes that is "bad".

To be honiest I'm not entirely convinced you aren't just a troll who'll say anything to get attension.
 
Mikhail Tal wrote:

Canon and Nikon are Oly's arch nemeses, the villain companies hell-bent on destroying Olympus and their superior products,
No bias then?
Me rooting for Olympus is no different than you rooting for a sports team.
I don't.
You buy their apparel, brag to anyone who will listen about how much better than the competition, and especially their rivals.
N/a
They may win or they may lose, but no matter what you make a substantial emotional investment in the team's short-term and long-term success. My undying allegiance to Olympus parallels your relationship with any sports team you happen to root for.
I don't, sport is boring. You are overly presumptive.
I identify with the ethos of the company's camera division
You know them all do you?
, if not the few shady executives who have since been ousted, and I will relentlessly fight for them and defend their cause.
Good for you.
There is NOTHING WRONG with the way I perceive the camera industry.
There is.
You may resent it because you are jealous of my boundless enthusiasm
misguided as it is, and a waste of (your) energy.
or perhaps you just don't understand
you couldn't be more misdemeaning could you. Starting from the premise that everyone else is wrong is doomed to failure.
what it means to align your support with a brand or a team, but may approach is logically impregnable. It epitomizes the way humans comport themselves in any kind of competition, and if you can't understand that then it is YOU whose social paradigm should be called into question, not mine. No, you don't have to pick a side, just as you don't have to pick a team in whatever are your country's major sports leagues. It's totally fair to like all the brands or none of them. But to denigrate anyone who does choose as a fanboy just shows you to be callow and intolerant. A fanboy is nothing more than an inflammatory insult leveled at someone who's a fan of a team that you don't like, a needless and gutless personal attack against someone whose only crime was to establish that a competition does indeed exist between different teams.

I disagree with both Canon and Nikon's approach to designing and selling cameras,
and what pray would that be, They are both successful companies. i don't think you have anything to teach them, let alone us.
and I'm not shy about saying as much. But one thing I will never do is insult someone JUST BECAUSE they are a fan of Canon or Nikon.
I think you've already done that.
That's flat out uncalled for and suggests a degree of insecurity in one's self and one's own beliefs. My world view of the photography industry is plenty solid enough that I don't need to validate it by slamming others whose views are different. Now I will admit that I may have tread dangerously close to that line earlier when I claimed that Roger Cicala "lost his mind" because he predicted the possible demise of m4/3 by 2018. I was of course speaking figuratively, but it was probably a little bit over the to, so for that I apologize. Now in return I only ask that you accept my and others' fandom of Olympus or any other brand as reasonable, genuine, and legitimate, and keep the discussion on the brands and their products rather than on the people who support them. Thank you.

Good night and good luck,

International Grandmaster Mikhail Tal
 
Mikhail Tal wrote:

Let me begin with this: I am a fan of Olympus. They are the team that I root for. Canon and Nikon are Oly's arch nemeses, the villain companies hell-bent on destroying Olympus and their superior products, vanquishing them from the industry. Maybe they secretly want to devour them and steal their technology, I don't know. Either way, I do know who are the good guys and who are the heroes and villains according to the team I have chosen to root for. Sony and Panny are usually Oly's allies while Samsung and Pentax are generally their adversaries, although they pale in comparison to the inexorable threat posed by Canikon.
I feel like this is the beginning of a fantasy novel.
Me rooting for Olympus is no different than you rooting for a sports team. You buy their apparel, brag to anyone who will listen about how much better than the competition, and especially their rivals. They may win or they may lose, but no matter what you make a substantial emotional investment in the team's short-term and long-term success. My undying allegiance to Olympus parallels your relationship with any sports team you happen to root for. I identify with the ethos of the company's camera division, if not the few shady executives who have since been ousted, and I will relentlessly fight for them and defend their cause.
Just like some things are social acceptable for reasons that are hard to pin down, other things are considered unacceptable for similar nebulous reasons. Rooting for sports is similar to rooting for a publicly traded electronics manufacturer, but only one comes with social stigma. The two are somewhat similar, but that's what society is and you are forced to either abide with the consequences or face the sneers.

Although sports by necessity require the direct competition between two teams (or individuals) whereas there is no such immediacy in business competition, so there are practical differences between the two.
There is NOTHING WRONG with the way I perceive the camera industry. You may resent it because you are jealous of my boundless enthusiasm or perhaps you just don't understand what it means to align your support with a brand or a team, but may approach is logically impregnable. It epitomizes the way humans comport themselves in any kind of competition, and if you can't understand that then it is YOU whose social paradigm should be called into question, not mine. No, you don't have to pick a side, just as you don't have to pick a team in whatever are your country's major sports leagues. It's totally fair to like all the brands or none of them. But to denigrate anyone who does choose as a fanboy just shows you to be callow and intolerant. A fanboy is nothing more than an inflammatory insult leveled at someone who's a fan of a team that you don't like, a needless and gutless personal attack against someone whose only crime was to establish that a competition does indeed exist between different teams.
A fan is someone who supports something. A fanboy is someone who puts some or all of his self-worth in that something he supports (presumably there are fangirls, too). There is a distinct difference. A fan is happy when his team wins and sad when his team loses. A fanboy feels accomplished when his team wins and humiliated when his team loses.
I disagree with both Canon and Nikon's approach to designing and selling cameras, and I'm not shy about saying as much. But one thing I will never do is insult someone JUST BECAUSE they are a fan of Canon or Nikon. That's flat out uncalled for and suggests a degree of insecurity in one's self and one's own beliefs. My world view of the photography industry is plenty solid enough that I don't need to validate it by slamming others whose views are different. Now I will admit that I may have tread dangerously close to that line earlier when I claimed that Roger Cicala "lost his mind" because he predicted the possible demise of m4/3 by 2018. I was of course speaking figuratively, but it was probably a little bit over the to, so for that I apologize. Now in return I only ask that you accept my and others' fandom of Olympus or any other brand as reasonable, genuine, and legitimate, and keep the discussion on the brands and their products rather than on the people who support them. Thank you.
I'm curious about what part of their approach to designing and selling cameras you disagree with. Do you question the effectiveness of their choices or do you have a moral problem with something they do?
Good night and good luck,

International Grandmaster Mikhail Tal
 
I don't root for sports teams, and I don't root for camera brands. I have a preference, naturally. That preference at the moment has me quite pleased for what it is, and I'm not all that much interested in what's developing outside of that. It took a long time to obtain a d.camera that doesn't have me looking forward to the next best thing or a specific improvement in a particular specification, but rather has me looking for the next best thing that I fashion with it.

That may speak to a difference in the journey that led each of us to where we are today with hardware and the craft, however. Perspectives/opinions about aspects of the craft are often at odds unwittingly due to the differences (great or small) in the personal experiences we reference.
 
I'm sorry not actually aware of a Camera called Olympus, are they still being made or were you referring to an old Film Camera? The other 2 you mentioned Nikon and Canon, yes! I've heard of them.
 
Mikhail Tal wrote:

Let me begin with this: I am a fan of Olympus. They are the team that I root for. Canon and Nikon are Oly's arch nemeses, the villain companies hell-bent on destroying Olympus and their superior products, vanquishing them from the industry. Maybe they secretly want to devour them and steal their technology, I don't know. Either way, I do know who are the good guys and who are the heroes and villains according to the team I have chosen to root for. Sony and Panny are usually Oly's allies while Samsung and Pentax are generally their adversaries, although they pale in comparison to the inexorable threat posed by Canikon.
Whatever
Me rooting for Olympus is no different than you rooting for a sports team. You buy their apparel, brag to anyone who will listen about how much better than the competition, and especially their rivals. They may win or they may lose, but no matter what you make a substantial emotional investment in the team's short-term and long-term success. My undying allegiance to Olympus parallels your relationship with any sports team you happen to root for. I identify with the ethos of the company's camera division, if not the few shady executives who have since been ousted, and I will relentlessly fight for them and defend their cause.
Because you know for a fact that now the Olympus board is the land of the selfless pure souls...
There is NOTHING WRONG with the way I perceive the camera industry. You may resent it because you are jealous of my boundless enthusiasm or perhaps you just don't understand what it means to align your support with a brand or a team, but may approach is logically impregnable. It epitomizes the way humans comport themselves in any kind of competition, and if you can't understand that then it is YOU whose social paradigm should be called into question, not mine. No, you don't have to pick a side, just as you don't have to pick a team in whatever are your country's major sports leagues. It's totally fair to like all the brands or none of them. But to denigrate anyone who does choose as a fanboy just shows you to be callow and intolerant. A fanboy is nothing more than an inflammatory insult leveled at someone who's a fan of a team that you don't like, a needless and gutless personal attack against someone whose only crime was to establish that a competition does indeed exist between different teams.
Why do you call this thread a "discussion"? it's clear from what you write that you are not into discussing anything... just promoting your self-centered view of the world.

I call you a fanboy of fanboyism
I disagree with both Canon and Nikon's approach to designing and selling cameras, and I'm not shy about saying as much.
I am sure that Canon's and Nikon's board are now full or very worried fiends, now that the true truth has been spoken
But one thing I will never do is insult someone JUST BECAUSE they are a fan of Canon or Nikon. That's flat out uncalled for and suggests a degree of insecurity in one's self and one's own beliefs. My world view of the photography industry is plenty solid enough that I don't need to validate it by slamming others whose views are different. Now I will admit that I may have tread dangerously close to that line earlier when I claimed that Roger Cicala "lost his mind" because he predicted the possible demise of m4/3 by 2018. I was of course speaking figuratively, but it was probably a little bit over the to, so for that I apologize. Now in return I only ask that you accept my and others' fandom of Olympus or any other brand as reasonable, genuine, and legitimate, and keep the discussion on the brands and their products rather than on the people who support them. Thank you.
These are free fora... if people disagree with you then tough
 
Mikhail Tal wrote:

Let me begin with this: I am a fan of Olympus. They are the team that I root for. Canon and Nikon are Oly's arch nemeses, the villain companies hell-bent on destroying Olympus and their superior products, vanquishing them from the industry. Maybe they secretly want to devour them and steal their technology, I don't know. Either way, I do know who are the good guys and who are the heroes and villains according to the team I have chosen to root for. Sony and Panny are usually Oly's allies while Samsung and Pentax are generally their adversaries, although they pale in comparison to the inexorable threat posed by Canikon.

Me rooting for Olympus is no different than you rooting for a sports team. You buy their apparel, brag to anyone who will listen about how much better than the competition, and especially their rivals. They may win or they may lose, but no matter what you make a substantial emotional investment in the team's short-term and long-term success. My undying allegiance to Olympus parallels your relationship with any sports team you happen to root for. I identify with the ethos of the company's camera division, if not the few shady executives who have since been ousted, and I will relentlessly fight for them and defend their cause.

There is NOTHING WRONG with the way I perceive the camera industry. You may resent it because you are jealous of my boundless enthusiasm or perhaps you just don't understand what it means to align your support with a brand or a team, but may approach is logically impregnable. It epitomizes the way humans comport themselves in any kind of competition, and if you can't understand that then it is YOU whose social paradigm should be called into question, not mine. No, you don't have to pick a side, just as you don't have to pick a team in whatever are your country's major sports leagues. It's totally fair to like all the brands or none of them. But to denigrate anyone who does choose as a fanboy just shows you to be callow and intolerant. A fanboy is nothing more than an inflammatory insult leveled at someone who's a fan of a team that you don't like, a needless and gutless personal attack against someone whose only crime was to establish that a competition does indeed exist between different teams.

I disagree with both Canon and Nikon's approach to designing and selling cameras, and I'm not shy about saying as much. But one thing I will never do is insult someone JUST BECAUSE they are a fan of Canon or Nikon. That's flat out uncalled for and suggests a degree of insecurity in one's self and one's own beliefs. My world view of the photography industry is plenty solid enough that I don't need to validate it by slamming others whose views are different. Now I will admit that I may have tread dangerously close to that line earlier when I claimed that Roger Cicala "lost his mind" because he predicted the possible demise of m4/3 by 2018. I was of course speaking figuratively, but it was probably a little bit over the to, so for that I apologize. Now in return I only ask that you accept my and others' fandom of Olympus or any other brand as reasonable, genuine, and legitimate, and keep the discussion on the brands and their products rather than on the people who support them. Thank you.
I see no "discussion" here, honest or otherwise, simply a rant.

When you say you are "rooting for Olympus" it take it that you are speaking as a shareholder?

I don't think that any camera manufacturer is out to "destroy" another, they simply compete in the market place and let the customer make their choice.

Most cameras are better than the people who use them, but a camera is just a tool and you pick the one that is best suited to the job you need to do. If you can't get the results you are looking for you should examine your own abilities, not that of the tools you are using.
I've owned or used products from most of the major manufacturers and they've all done the job they were designed for.

I'm thinking you should grow up and show a little maturity.
 
I found your post strange, almost devorced from reality, and a little unsettling.

Over the years I've had cameras from lots of companies, but I can honestly say I've never bought a camera for any reason except it suiting a purpose. I use a Sinar 4x5 not because I hate Nikon, but because at one time I needed it to make a picture, I bought a Rolleiflex because it suited my style and I liked the images it helped me make. I later bought a Hasselblad so I could change backs (film) mid shoot. I also owned a Canon F1 and a Nikon F2 and a Rollei 35 all for various reasons.

Kind of like the way a carpenter has a plane, chisels or hacksaw just pick the tool as long as you can use it to create you needn't know what brand hammer you own.

I've never bought a name, just a camera to shoot pictures–I guess I'm just secure in what I'm doing which is making pictures.

BTW I don't support sports teams, or rarely wear designer clothes when I do I cut the labels off (I'm no walking advert).

You are not what you own.

Life's too short to worry about C*ap like that.
 
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Excellent, another comedy thread.

I think you missed out the bit about Canon and Nikon eating Olympus babies, just putting them out of business would be far too kind.

I have a friend who is a fanatical supporter of Reading football club so I do understand how depressing it is following a losing team, do keep the faith though.
 

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