XFI (CMOS, 2/3" sensor) and F70exr (CCD, 1/2" sensor)

CAcreeks · Jul 21, 2013

Another very interesting comparison! The best shot is the XF1 in P mode (first one), not only for color saturation but also because the guy wires on the towers are visible. The worst shot is the XF1 where EXR Auto selected landscape mode. I am not sure why landscape mode comes out warmer than P mode. Can't even see details in the towers! The F70EXR shot is a but too purple but good overall both for details and saturation.

So this is the first time we can see that the XF1 seems to be an upgrade over the F70, possibly.

prime said:
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West side of Mt. Defiance, Columbia River Gorge. All shots handheld with image stabilization (shooting only) enabled on each camera.

XF1: P mode, M size, ISO Auto 400, DR400, Auto WB

XF1: EXR Auto. Camera selected all settings.

F70exr: P mode. M size, ISO Auto400, DR400, Auto WB

Have at it, y'all.

prime · Jul 21, 2013

CAcreeks wrote:

CAcreeks said:
Another very interesting comparison! The best shot is the XF1 in P mode (first one), not only for color saturation but also because the guy wires on the towers are visible. The worst shot is the XF1 where EXR Auto selected landscape mode. I am not sure why landscape mode comes out warmer than P mode. Can't even see details in the towers! The F70EXR shot is a but too purple but good overall both for details and saturation.

So this is the first time we can see that the XF1 seems to be an upgrade over the F70, possibly.

Until you pointed it out, I had not noticed that the default XF1 setting captured the tower's guy wires where the other shots did not. Good catch, and thank you. I am still learning the XF1's strengths and weaknesses, and your observatin is a good data point.

(Wondering what you might catch in the Mt. Hood triptych, above, at http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51828834 .)

2007: Fujifilm F30 (sur la Rivière Deschutes: c'est moi)

2012: Fujifilm F70EXR (again the Deschutes; my niece is in front, but that's not me at the back)

cantanima · Jul 22, 2013

CAcreeks said:
CAcreeks wrote:

Another very interesting comparison! The best shot is the XF1 in P mode (first one), not only for color saturation but also because the guy wires on the towers are visible.

The guy wires are visible in the F70 shot, too, though they do seem more apparent in the XF1.

jimr · Jul 22, 2013

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cantanima wrote:

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CAcreeks wrote:
Another very interesting comparison! The best shot is the XF1 in P mode (first one), not only for color saturation but also because the guy wires on the towers are visible.

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The guy wires are visible in the F70 shot, too, though they do seem more apparent in the XF1.

So the next question would be does which mode is being used with the F70 make a difference in the appearance of the guy wires as well.

So many setting variations and permutations are available on the XF1 in particular.

CAcreeks · Jul 22, 2013

I will look more closely at the Mt. Hood images.

Last weekend I saw a sit-on-top kayak (made in Sweden) that had two attachable sections for a single, and a third section to put in between for a tandem. You could make it a triple by putting two middle sections between the ends. The whole thing fits in a Prius.

prime said:
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(Wondering what you might catch in the Mt. Hood triptych, above, at http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51828834 .)

2012: Fujifilm F70EXR (again the Deschutes; my niece is in front, but that's not me at the back)

CAcreeks · Jul 22, 2013

The first (M DR400) seems a bit underexposed, but ignoring that issue, I think this shows (a) large size EXR processing is vastly improved a lot since the early models, and (b) aperture priority seems useful to reduce diffraction, which might have contributed to the dull look of the first image at f/8.

In this set I prefer the Raw conversion over the EXR Auto by a narrow margin, with the DR400 trailing by a large margin. Thanks!

prime said:
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XF1: P mode, M size, ISO Auto400, DR400, auto WB (Mt. Hood from lower slopes of Mt. Defiance)

XF1: EXR Auto: the camera chose M size automatically

XF1: A (aperture priority) mode, L size, JPG+RAW; this image manually processed from the RAW file with the internal RAW processor.

prime · Jul 23, 2013

CAcreeks wrote:

CAcreeks said:
The first (M DR400) seems a bit underexposed, but ignoring that issue, I think this shows (a) large size EXR processing is vastly improved a lot since the early models, and (b) aperture priority seems useful to reduce diffraction, which might have contributed to the dull look of the first image at f/8.

In this set I prefer the Raw conversion over the EXR Auto by a narrow margin, with the DR400 trailing by a large margin.

Last evening, I committed this fleeting opportunity to a setting of aperture priority, Large size, ISO 200, rather than to my more accustomed setting of program mode, Medium size, ISO Auto400, because I am beginning to come to the same conclusions (though still tentatively).

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