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My TV at times looses its signal and develops interesting patterns on the screen. Some of it looks much better than the contemporary art we have in our local gallery. Comments ?

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Hi mate, yes but only if you can talk about it for hours. ;-) Or get it hung in a gallery or pass away so everyone will pay large amounts of money for it because now there can never be another one like it.

Sounds like a rant but like modern art, just lack the skills to pass my work of as "art". ;-)

Regards.

Stephen.
 
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What does it have to do with Sony Alpha SLR/SLT's?
 
Only if it has a $10,000 price tag in the lower right corner ;-)
 
Modern art, or depends on which side of the brain the person is using. In my case looks like a lost digital signal.... Guess I'm not that artistic....
 
Isn't it same as "fine art photography"? Any technical disaster can be turned into a modern art. Just make sure you put it on a prominent wall space and a hefty price tag somewhere so public will know its worth. :)
 
Yes, in fact a portion of that "snow" is a very mysterious art, if you can comprehend it.

When you tune your TV between channels, a few percent of the "snow" is actually noise caused by CBS (Cosmic Microwave Background) radiation. It includes infra-red, radio, x-ray, gravity-wave, etc. The only known source of this radiation is the early universe. But our current science is still too preventive to comprehend aspects of it. In fat, one day it may become the key to understanding the fabric of early universe in early moments of creation.

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all sciences." (Albert Einstein)
 
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No that's not Art....he is younger with a bit more hair than that :)
 
..... with at least with some of you pals: finally we have here a photograph as good as any, that of a centre piece of our culture: a digital TV. The concept - one digital imaging device imaging another - alone is stimulating. Well, at least for some of us. Above all, let's not forget that "imagination" contains the word "image". True to his chosen name "CaptureAll", we have an essential erotic connection, which is important since that is the essential living force, result for all of us being around. Sorry for not having pictured Art, instead we have found connection to the Big Bang. So I can rest my case. Albert E. would smile, for sure: thanks to SamOslo.

Also the idea that art is art when it has a price tag, has merit: making two dozens of variations on the theme, making big enough copies, framing them expensively, editing it under a fake French (perhaps Japanese?) name connected to the last millennium - I am sure the limited edition collection could be sold. However, I would not invest my retirement savings in that project. But think about it: presently we have people selling (and buying) real estate on the moon. But that is a different art.
 
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..... with at least with some of you pals: finally we have here a photograph as good as any, that of a centre piece of our culture: a digital TV. The concept - one digital imaging device imaging another - alone is stimulating. Well, at least for some of us. Above all, let's not forget that "imagination" contains the word "image". True to his chosen name "CaptureAll", we have an essential erotic connection, which is important since that is the essential living force, result for all of us being around. Sorry for not having pictured Art, instead we have found connection to the Big Bang. So I can rest my case. Albert E. would smile, for sure: thanks to SamOslo.

Also the idea that art is art when it has a price tag, has merit: making two dozens of variations on the theme, making big enough copies, framing them expensively, editing it under a fake French (perhaps Japanese?) name connected to the last millennium - I am sure the limited edition collection could be sold. However, I would not invest my retirement savings in that project. But think about it: presently we have people selling (and buying) real estate on the moon. But that is a different art.
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"True to his chosen name "CaptureAll", we have an essential erotic connection, which is important since that is the essential living force, result for all of us being around."

They said my name and erotic inthe aame sentence, must be my Friday!
Someone did say they saw a leg...
 
Of course it's art! You've extracted an instant of modern reality we don't normally perceive or desire. Now we can celebrate it.

Call it "Over the Air," slap a 10K pricetag on it, and do a large format Epson matte gallery print.

Of course, you realize you have it upside down.

- lsm
 
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I once saw a piece of "art" in a Belgian museum that was just two lines on an otherwise blank canvas - if that's art then my 4 year old's artwork should also go in a gallery...
 
If you are referring to art as a professional activity and scientific-like exploring of visual communication you have to study what art really is, and learn to know the complexity of concepts behind contemporary art before commenting.

If you are referring to art as nice pictures made just for pleasure, like those found in many local galleries, personal taste might be an okay criteria for evaluating the work.

Why should we listen to people without professional knowledge when discussing art? Just more whining about what they don't know anything about, concluding that they could do better themselves!

I just wonder!
 
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If you are referring to art as a professional activity and scientific-like exploring of visual communication you have to study what art really is, and learn to know the complexity of concepts behind contemporary art before commenting.

If you are referring to art as nice pictures made just for pleasure, like those found in many local galleries, personal taste might be an okay criteria for evaluating the work.

Why should we listen to people without professional knowledge when discussing art? Just more whining about what they don't know anything about, concluding that they could do better themselves!

I just wonder!
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"...what art [sic] really is..." -- a very good question indeed!

To say Art is "scientific-like exploring of visual communication" does Science a disservice. For good or ill, it's the artist who makes the decision as to when his work is done -- replication, peer review, measurement etc aren't usually part of the 'artistic' process.

As for "the complexity of concepts behind contemporary art" -- that complexity might be due to the inability of many artists to express themselves other than through their chosen media and the inability of critics to express the ineffable.

But don't let that stop the Art Industry -- everybody needs to earn a living.

"Aesthetics (also spelled æsthetics) is a branch of philosophy dealing with the nature of art, beauty, and taste, with the creation and appreciation of beauty. It is more scientifically defined as the study of sensory or sensori-emotional values, sometimes called judgments of sentiment and taste. More broadly, scholars in the field define aesthetics as "critical reflection on art, culture and nature."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesthetics

Ever do a google search on the word "Aesthetics"? -- or "archane"?

Let's stick to something we all understand -- how many pixels an angel can dance on?
 
For sure, contemporary art has it's story, following a tradition, evolved into some pretty complex activity. Today's work heavily depend on concepts and you can't just throw out some random pictures and say "this is art". What is judged by specialists is your body of work. The history of art is well documented and everybody who want to take part in a serious discussion should first learn what this is about. That's my point.

On the other hand, the term 'art' is very confusing, containing activities from hand craft to serious, almost scientific-like investigations, on how we percieve the outer and inner world.

When discussing 'art' just defining the terms and clarifying what we are talking about would take more space than the limit of 150 treads for this forum would allow, I think ... :-D
 
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