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Reliable Ricoh Korean forum board just recieved information

that Ricoh is currently working on upcoming next GXR.

But further details and final decisions has not been made yet. . but one thing for sure is

Ricoh have been already playing around with new gxr model.

Due to still older GXR are stock but sales onGXR has currently ended.

http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?..._arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=12534&category=4

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Ricoh customer since 2009
 
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"Pentax daepyonim page were you a few days ago. wondering Ask your hangeo ask anything, GXR ask follow-up in relation to the subtype. internally to Play jungyirago. chose not been decided yet exactly. , and ... She said someone else needs ... Only problem is still the domestic market, the subsequent two andago do you do seem to be right. domestic market related products GXR sale has ended. interpretation of what it means like to ask yo self. .. Anyway line summary: GXR follow-up is underway inside. PS I feel a-_-a very aggressive these days seem Rico."

Seems rather meaningless to me. "GXR follow-up" could mean anything from a long overdue GXR back to an entirely new camera with interchangeable mount modules.

Ricoh very aggressive? Because they finally (after how many years?) released an updated GR with an APS-C sensor while keeping everything else mostly the same? I doubt it.
 
tried another translation

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webtranslation.paralink.com

Slightly more clear?

"I went a few days ago from a Pentax representative. If you have any questions about anything please say, GXR follow-up in relation to ask. Play from the inside out. Yet it is not accurately determined. And ... Requirements for other people said ... So far, the stock market's problems are not likely to be released right away, follow up to. GXR-related products, market sale has ended. We favor our own interpretation of what it means to ... Anyway a one-line summary: the GXR is an internal successor is under way. P.S I feel-there seems to be a very aggressive these days _-a Rico."

Other translations mention a pentax president (as well as bedspreads and eton cancer??). Had some fun seeing how different online translators tackled the text...

Having thought the GXR project was as good as over, this is very welcome news, especially as I didn't pull the trigger on another solution (very nearly went for the GR amongst other things).

Tom Caldwell may well be right after all!

As for being aggressive, Ricoh just released the cheapest APSC fixed lens camera that is apparently on a par quality-wise with those at least a few hundred dollars more expensive... I think that their pricing on the GR was (relatively) aggressive.

I hope we get more info soon (Mirrorlessrumors suggests a new GXR product within 1 to 2 months! - different implication from the translation above, but very welcome if true)

Chris
 
Welcome to Pentax and Ricoh state of rumour affairs.

We have been entertained for years, especially with an oracular nonsense told by "some rep" translated then into English gibberish — that's our favourite; it makes us forget for a while that a lion has bitten off the clown's leg just two acts before.

After that, they have a monkey riding a bicycle and a jump through the ring of fire.

Grab some popcorns.
 
ZT

You're probably right - just got carried away wanting something to be true that lots of us hope for.

The GR got leaked around 3 months before it was officially announced, though.

Still hoping,

Chris
 
chrisnga said:
chrisnga wrote:

tried another translation

http://webtranslation.paralink.com/Korean-Translation.asp

Slightly more clear?

"I went a few days ago from a Pentax representative. If you have any questions about anything please say, GXR follow-up in relation to ask. Play from the inside out. Yet it is not accurately determined. And ... Requirements for other people said ... So far, the stock market's problems are not likely to be released right away, follow up to. GXR-related products, market sale has ended. We favor our own interpretation of what it means to ... Anyway a one-line summary: the GXR is an internal successor is under way. P.S I feel-there seems to be a very aggressive these days _-a Rico."

Other translations mention a pentax president (as well as bedspreads and eton cancer??). Had some fun seeing how different online translators tackled the text...

Having thought the GXR project was as good as over, this is very welcome news, especially as I didn't pull the trigger on another solution (very nearly went for the GR amongst other things).

Tom Caldwell may well be right after all!
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I might stick to the bedspreads :)

Insired guessing on my part?
chrisnga said:
As for being aggressive, Ricoh just released the cheapest APSC fixed lens camera that is apparently on a par quality-wise with those at least a few hundred dollars more expensive... I think that their pricing on the GR was (relatively) aggressive.

I hope we get more info soon (Mirrorlessrumors suggests a new GXR product within 1 to 2 months! - different implication from the translation above, but very welcome if true)

Chris
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Well it's very cryptic but it would be very nice if true, I will keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best. I still enjoy using my A-12, and I keep thinking of either a CV-15 or a GR and I was leaning more towards the GR as I could also add the 21 adp.

Time will tell!!!!

wbill
 
Yeah, "ceasing domestic sales of GXR" and "GXR successor" sounds more like an entirely new camera, so it could be anything. Except probably a GXR.
 
Tom Caldwell said:
Chris

Makes sense for Ricoh to clean out inventory before a new model is released. Maybe they are going to the phased in releases of new product so that aany further quite remarkable new product is not going to steamroll the thunder of the previous one.
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Definitely makes sense - gets more people into the system too (if they are carrying it on).
Tom Caldwell said:
Where I might get my slap forehead duh-oh, guessed right ~ sucker, is if there is a smaller new GXR camera back and a nice little 28mm module with whizz bang sensor in it. Might make some of those with the GR wonder whether they need a "proper camera" GXRII-28 or a compact belt/pocket GR with fixed lens. Room for both no doubt as the module lens even on a small GXRII would not fit in a pocket.
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I would (respectfully) disagree there - I think there is room for only one APSC 28mm equivalent - they wouldn't want to cannibalise their own niche. I think they will (if they ever do) release more primes and/or mounts.
Tom Caldwell said:
To wish for a built in evf on a tiny-back GXR would be a wish too far but maybe a very good clip on evf would be welcome. FF mount module on a camera back not much bigger than the GXR and the camera world would be rocking a bit. Pop! - that was the dream bubble bursting.
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I think I remember an interview with a Ricoh guy saying that the emphasis was on compactness, so unlikely to add viewfinder - I guess the back would have to be taller or the viewfinder stick out quite a way. Best with a clip on. I hope they keep the same connection.
Tom Caldwell said:
In any case if the GXRII does arrive then we can be assured that we can see a lot of the innovations likely to be included just by looking at our GR cameras.

The alternative or maybe the corollary body would be a (slightly) larger format with built in evf and possibly the becoming ubiquitous tilt lcd.
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Too big I think
Tom Caldwell said:
Meanwhile Ricoh engineers are still thinking about it and will continue to do so until the cameras are rolling off the production line ...
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They seem a pretty loyal lot - we never seem to get anywhere near the number of leaks that other manufacturers do...
Tom Caldwell said:
The other strange thing that gets a mention is the continuing shortage of GR stock. Did Ricoh simply underestimate demand or do they think that a new sibling will actually start a competition for hearts and minds and therefore there is no real need to manufacture the GR in huge numbers? Certainly the good reception of the GR will pave the way for the public to pay more attention to any GXR that might appear.
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Chris,

If you were to sit a GR next to the GXR with any module on board, or even the GRDIII/IV then it is fairly easy to see that the GRD is similarly proportioned to the GR but not as wide as it loses this "advantage" when it morphs into the GR.

The noticeable difference is in height. The GXR mount rails are a fixed size and it remains a problem on whether the height can be trimmed. Possibly could but the flash unit and the connections for the clip on evf (at least) would have to be dealt with somehow. However if those "minor" details could be successfully resolved then the top plate of the mount might only need a trim plate to finish it off. Ego is starts looking much the same size as the GR.

I saw some talk about led arrays being used for alternative flash units a while ago. Maybe this could be made work? An alternative jack for a powered evf? Too hard for this little speculation, mytbe it is just impossible. But if it were possible then maybe, just maybe, we could see a GXR camera back closer to the GR in body size.

Of course all the modules add a little thickness, it is inevitable. That is why perhaps a 28mm module might happen even if it were not the first cab off the rank. Presumably if it were a fixed rather than collapsing lens then Ricoh could make if faster or throw in a good macro capability.

As far as the larger GXR back type I am only thinking of it a some sort of super K-02 rail mount EVIL-type camera. A sort of Sony NEX on Ricohs own firmware steroids.

ie: one a tiny rail mount body to pop eyes and one larger, more practical, with all the bells and whistles for those that like grips and eye-finders for larger lenses.
 
yonsarh said:
yonsarh wrote:
yonsarh said:
Zvonimir Tosic wrote:

Welcome to Pentax and Ricoh state of rumour affairs.
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this was not rumors those was a word from pentax ceo
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Whatever executive he was, the company is now called Ricoh, Pentax is now nothing but a brand name.

And of course, since it's not an official statement from Ricoh, it is still just a rumor.
 
It's still just a rumour, but the guy over at mirrorlessrumours says that he has independent sources (other than the slrclub website) that confirm an imminent successor for the GXR.

If there are testers, then it's probably only a matter of time before one is spotted in the wild, or a leak occurs - if nothing more comes at all in the next three months, it was all smoke without fire after all.

Multiple rumors about the same thing are still just rumours, but the probability that something may come of them just got a little higher.

Chris
 
Tom,

As for a much smaller GXR, I'm not sure that I want one! It's quite a nice size as is. They could take out the flash and put in an EVF without too much change is size, but then there would be a non-removable bump (as the new EVFs seem pretty large), which I think is not according to Ricoh 'compact' philosophy.

In camera raw processing and faster processor to boost focus speeds on older models would be nice. As long as they are still compatible.

Chris
 
chrisnga said:
chrisnga wrote:

Tom,

As for a much smaller GXR, I'm not sure that I want one! It's quite a nice size as is. They could take out the flash and put in an EVF without too much change is size, but then there would be a non-removable bump (as the new EVFs seem pretty large), which I think is not according to Ricoh 'compact' philosophy.

In camera raw processing and faster processor to boost focus speeds on older models would be nice. As long as they are still compatible.

Chris
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If there's a change, I hope Ricoh could improve the GXR design and shift more of the camera cost to the body unit while keeping the complete package's price. I think, the first idea in common gadget users about modular design is customizability and partial upgrade, but ultimately it's cost, a device that is cheaper because you only upgrade/pay for what you need instead of the whole thing.

If the lens+sensor unit could be produced even cheaper than buying other whole-camera of similar spec (especially P&S), it could be a viable choice for non-enthusiasts too.
 
ogl said:
ogl wrote:

I'd like to see new lensors are compatible with old and new GXR cameras.
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That is the part that had me wondering. Why worry about selling off all existing stock if a new GXR is going to be compatible with it existing lensors etc.?

Maybe a new GXR with body mounted sensor, and the 'lensor' is just a removable lens, in other words, a conventional camera?
 
As a Ricoh fan, I have owned before a couple of GXR models and now keeping the new GR, however, i really doubt there will be new GXR model in the pipe. I still believe GR will be the only model with upgrades and improved version down the road.

Though GXR is a good camera system with Ricoh craftsmanship and good IQ, it just does not sell. The concept of having specific sensor and lens combination seems nice but ultimately fail to impress. The truth is that the life span of a good lens is much much much longer than any specific sensor.
 
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