Nikon lenses on the X-Pro 1 ?

JP Scherrer wrote:

Hi !

Actually using a D800, I would like to know if one can use Nikon FX (fullsize) lenses on the Fuji X-Pro 1 (or X-E 1) ?

If YES, what kind of adapter should I get ?

TIA,

J-P.

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Yes, many of us use our Nikon lenses on fuji. Assuming you have newe lenses without an aperture ring you will need an adapter that includes an aperture ring. I use a Fotodiox for Nikon G lens, about $40 on amazon. Works on new and old legacy lenses.
 
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If you don't have G lenses you can get Kipon adapter - I use it with Nikkor AF-D 60mm f/2.8 Micro.
 
Absolutely yes!

There are many options to mount Nikon lenses onto a Fuji X body.



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I own all five current models of the Kipon Nikon to Fuji X adapters, as well as a few from Novoflex and Metabones (the last one came in days ago and is not yet in the above picture).

If you intend to use Nikon G-type FX or DX lenses (without their own aperture ring) then you must use an adapter with an extra control ring: that will let you "control" the aperture in a crude and not so precise way. The Kipon G adapter (€68) works fine. The much more expensive Novoflex FUX/NIK one (€169) has a better finish, a smoother aperture control ring and an optional tripod mount collar (€89 extra).

If you only plan to only use F lenses (non-AI, AI, AI-s, AF, AF-D) having an aperture ring, then a simple "straight" adapter like the Kipon F (€57) is all you need. Of course a G-type adapter will work as well, with the added option to use the extra control ring to quickly move from wide open (for focusing) to the working aperture set on the lens (for shooting). If you own a few longer/heavier lenses (such as tele or macro ones) you might prefer an adapter that comes with a tripod attachment, such as the Metabones one (€128) or the above-mentioned Novoflex combo.

The Kipon shift-only (€80) or tilt&shift (€284) adapters support full-frame F-type lenses only. You could use them as "regular" adapters; especially with the tilt&shift adapter however, the bulk and the risk of inadvertently adding a tilt and/or shift may make this more of a theoretical than a practical case.

I found the Kipon tilt-only adapter (€104) only useful for creative focus applications (lensbaby style) with F-type FX lenses.

IMO the Novoflex and Metabones show superior quality, but at a cost. All Kipons I own give full satisfaction. There are other manufacturer and retailer brands besides Kipon that will offer comparable quality, I just don't have any experience with them. There are also cheaper products available from various online sites, but - according to reports I read - quality, precision, sample variation and durability may vary. I guess you get what you pay for...

Note: all prices indicated are indicative and reflect what these adapters ended up costing me when ordering online (Kipons through ebay, Novoflex/Metabones directly from the suppliers) and including shipping (to Belgium), taxes and other charges.

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Great to know that I could use my actual lenses !

now, I noticed one slight defect on the X-Pro 1: it hasn't got any diopter adjustment system ! One must buy screw-on diopter correction lens :-( !

As I use glasses, i find very difficult to look thru a viewfinder with my goggles on, so, NOT KNOWING WHICH CORRCTION LENG I NEED, I would have to buy several ! ...and I don't know if these accessories are easy to find !

Ohhh well..... There's allways a drawback somewhere !

;-)

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JP Scherrer wrote:

Great to know that I could use my actual lenses !

now, I noticed one slight defect on the X-Pro 1: it hasn't got any diopter adjustment system ! One must buy screw-on diopter correction lens :-( !

As I use glasses, i find very difficult to look thru a viewfinder with my goggles on, so, NOT KNOWING WHICH CORRCTION LENG I NEED, I would have to buy several ! ...and I don't know if these accessories are easy to find !

Ohhh well..... There's allways a drawback somewhere !

;-)

J-P.

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That is a slight drawback on the Pro1 but not the XE1. There are many options and you might need to start a new thread if you do not get one here



 Fotodiox for Nikon G adapter with an old Nikon 50mm f/1.8 series E lens
Fotodiox for Nikon G adapter with an old Nikon 50mm f/1.8 series E lens
 
JP Scherrer wrote:

As I use glasses, i find very difficult to look thru a viewfinder with my goggles on, so, NOT KNOWING WHICH CORRCTION LENG I NEED, I would have to buy several ! ...and I don't know if these accessories are easy to find !
J-P,

I was confronted with the same issue when I bought my X-Pro1. I have a blog post on this topic that may be of help.

The best places to look for diopters are shops or web stores that carry rangefinder cameras (Leica e.a.). In some areas, I believe the Fujifilm distributor carries them as well.
 
For information:

a] the X-P 1 viewfinder uses "standard" 19mm threads for its fittings

b] your optician or optometrist should be able to advise you which lens +/- N you should need: in my own case since my optician is a Leica man who also wears glasses he was already familiar with the problem and was able to have one made up for me to my exact prescription - he carries a small stock of blank mounting rings for just such situations.

c] While the Cosina/Voigtlander diopter lenses are recommended by Fuji, almost any make will do.
 
Rene Delbar wrote:

Absolutely yes!

There are many options to mount Nikon lenses onto a Fuji X body.

original.jpg


I own all five current models of the Kipon Nikon to Fuji X adapters, as well as a few from Novoflex and Metabones (the last one came in days ago and is not yet in the above picture).

If you intend to use Nikon G-type FX or DX lenses (without their own aperture ring) then you must use an adapter with an extra control ring: that will let you "control" the aperture in a crude and not so precise way. The Kipon G adapter (€68) works fine. The much more expensive Novoflex FUX/NIK one (€169) has a better finish, a smoother aperture control ring and an optional tripod mount collar (€89 extra).

If you only plan to only use F lenses (non-AI, AI, AI-s, AF, AF-D) having an aperture ring, then a simple "straight" adapter like the Kipon F (€57) is all you need. Of course a G-type adapter will work as well, with the added option to use the extra control ring to quickly move from wide open (for focusing) to the working aperture set on the lens (for shooting). If you own a few longer/heavier lenses (such as tele or macro ones) you might prefer an adapter that comes with a tripod attachment, such as the Metabones one (€128) or the above-mentioned Novoflex combo.

The Kipon shift-only (€80) or tilt&shift (€284) adapters support full-frame F-type lenses only. You could use them as "regular" adapters; especially with the tilt&shift adapter however, the bulk and the risk of inadvertently adding a tilt and/or shift may make this more of a theoretical than a practical case.

I found the Kipon tilt-only adapter (€104) only useful for creative focus applications (lensbaby style) with F-type FX lenses.

IMO the Novoflex and Metabones show superior quality, but at a cost. All Kipons I own give full satisfaction. There are other manufacturer and retailer brands besides Kipon that will offer comparable quality, I just don't have any experience with them. There are also cheaper products available from various online sites, but - according to reports I read - quality, precision, sample variation and durability may vary. I guess you get what you pay for...

Note: all prices indicated are indicative and reflect what these adapters ended up costing me when ordering online (Kipons through ebay, Novoflex/Metabones directly from the suppliers) and including shipping (to Belgium), taxes and other charges.

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Thank you for this very informative post. I had been wondering about Nikon/Fuji adaptors recently!
 
Al Valentino wrote

That is a slight drawback on the Pro1 but not the XE1. There are many options and you might need to start a new thread if you do not get one here

Fotodiox for Nikon G adapter with an old Nikon 50mm f/1.8 series E lens
Fotodiox for Nikon G adapter with an old Nikon 50mm f/1.8 series E lens
Hi Al !

Thanks for the feedback ! I had previously thought about the XE-1, but then, there is a much bigger drawback: it doesn't have VIEWFINDER !

;-)

J-P.

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I'm hoping that MetaBones will release a SpeedBooster for Nikon lenses on the X-series...
 
JP Scherrer wrote:

Thanks for the feedback ! I had previously thought about the XE-1, but then, thereis a much bigger drawback: it doesn't have a VIEWFINDER !

;-)

J-P.

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Its a double edged sword. First, there is no optical viewfinder :( Next, the EVF of rhe XE1 has twice the resolution of the XPro1 which has twice the resolution if the XE1's LCD. But here's the rub, the Optical viewfinder does not work with long lenses or very wide lens. So with my 90mm amron macro, fuji 55-200 or my 8mm rokinon fisheye and 15mm Voigtlander prime, the optical viewfinder is useless. Remember the viewfinder is rangefinder style so not through the lens. With Longer lenses all you see is the side of the lens.

The other thing, at least for myself, is that the XE1 included the 18-55 zoom which is exceptional glass, better than my Nikon 17-55 and 16-85, both of which are great lenses.

it is all a bit of compromise. It did take a little to get used to the EVF compared to my Nikon but not too long. A live histogram really helps.
 
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Al Valentino wrote:
JP Scherrer wrote:

Thanks for the feedback ! I had previously thought about the XE-1, but then, thereis a much bigger drawback: it doesn't have a VIEWFINDER !

;-)

J-P.

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Its a double edged sword. First, there is no optical viewfinder :( Next, the EVF of rhe XE1 has twice the resolution of the XPro1 which has twice the resolution if the XE1's LCD. But here's the rub, the Optical viewfinder does not work with long lenses or very wide lens. So with my 90mm amron macro, fuji 55-200 or my 8mm rokinon fisheye and 15mm Voigtlander prime, the optical viewfinder is useless. Remember the viewfinder is rangefinder style so not through the lens. With Longer lenses all you see is the side of the lens.

The other thing, at least for myself, is that the XE1 included the 18-55 zoom which is exceptional glass, better than my Nikon 17-55 and 16-85, both of which are great lenses.

it is all a bit of compromise. It did take a little to get used to the EVF compared to my Nikon but not too long. A live histogram really helps.
Good comments.... This is one of the reasons I am getting an XE-1, because of my plan to adapt some nikkor manual focus lenses to it....
 
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Al Valentino wrote:
JP Scherrer wrote:

Thanks for the feedback ! I had previously thought about the XE-1, but then, thereis a much bigger drawback: it doesn't have a VIEWFINDER !

;-)

J-P.

Photo Galeries at http://www.pbase.com/scherrer
Spherical Panoramas (360x180 degrees) at http://www.viewat.org/?sec=pn&id_aut=2489
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Its a double edged sword. First, there is no optical viewfinder :( Next, the EVF of rhe XE1 has twice the resolution of the XPro1 which has twice the resolution if the XE1's LCD. But here's the rub, the Optical viewfinder does not work with long lenses or very wide lens. So with my 90mm amron macro, fuji 55-200 or my 8mm rokinon fisheye and 15mm Voigtlander prime, the optical viewfinder is useless. Remember the viewfinder is rangefinder style so not through the lens. With Longer lenses all you see is the side of the lens.

The other thing, at least for myself, is that the XE1 included the 18-55 zoom which is exceptional glass, better than my Nikon 17-55 and 16-85, both of which are great lenses.

it is all a bit of compromise. It did take a little to get used to the EVF compared to my Nikon but not too long. A live histogram really helps.
Good comments.... This is one of the reasons I am getting an XE-1, because of my plan to adapt some nikkor manual focus lenses to it....
I was shooting flowers yesterday with my 90mm tamron macro and fuji 55-200, OVF would not have worked at all. But when in M model set in fromt of the camea, the EVF allows the area selected for focus to blown up 3x making it easy to set what I was focusing on. The EVF on the EX1 is a bit sharper.

at the end of this month it should get even better as fuirmware upte will include a new Focus Peaking feature. So the focused area with wbe highlighted in the EVF and LCD. This is hue for those that use manual lenses.
 
Someone should make and market a sticker depicting the X-Pro1's front OVF lens for the front of EV-1's. Done well who but the owner would know it's a phony, and it would raise the EV-1's cool factor exponentially. :D
 
You might want to check out XE1 as well as XPro1.

Manual focus requires the evf and magnified view (one push of the command dial in).

I guess if you have sharp vision you could use the OVF. Fuji is promising focus peakig like on X100s on July 23 firmware update.

My take would be the highest quality evf is essential for manual focusing. I use manual focus a lot.

It takes about 3-5 seconds on XE1 using magnified view and the evf.

I also have a Sony Nex 6 and its focus peaking feature is superb and makes it very very easy to be certain of manual focus. I also have a D800E.

Greg.
 
I use only one Nikon lens on the X-Pro 1, the 10,5cm/2,5 LTM M39 lens originally designed for leica 's oldest mount. Evidently it has a slightly different optical formula to today's Ai/S 105 lenses do. But it has lovely bokeh as can be seen in this shot.

It looks like this like this on an X-Pro 1.

It is both heavier and longer than the Ai/S version, the front rotates, and its aperture scale is compressed as the iris closes. It is very much a classic lens. It flares heavily into the sun unlike the current Ai/S versions.



If you are coming from an SLR with a decent viewfinder, you may find the Fuji to be slow, unsteady, and hard to focus with. I also have the D800, which I find borderline for focusing. The X-Pro 1 may look like a rangefinder and you may expect it to be able to focus somehow using the OVF, but it won't. There is no focus confirmation system for any glass using the OVF. It is meant only for framing autofocus lens images.



You have to use the EVF, and the EVF is low res, slow to update, and worst of all, lacks a magnification window, so you have to expand the entire image meaning that you will only see what is going on in a very small portion of the frame. If you can live with that, or are on a tripod the entire time, or never used manual lenses or a good camera before, you will probably enjoy the Fuji, but coming from cameras that are much better, made to use manual glass, you will be frustrated.

It's slower to shoot this fully automatic camera than it is to shoot a Canon P from 1957, or a Leica M from the same era, or a Nikon FE or D800 for that matter. It is fun, but not ready for manual glass.

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Al Valentino wrote:

I was shooting flowers yesterday with my 90mm tamron macro and fuji 55-200, OVF would not have worked at all. But when in M model set in fromt of the camea, the EVF allows the area selected for focus to blown up 3x making it easy to set what I was focusing on. The EVF on the EX1 is a bit sharper.

at the end of this month it should get even better as fuirmware upte will include a new Focus Peaking feature. So the focused area with wbe highlighted in the EVF and LCD. This is hue for those that use manual lenses.
Al, that's all the more reason for me to get the XE-1.
 
I am so impressed with the BW quality of the Fuji sensors and that they are small and compact, I have toyed with getting a Fuji body sometime in the future. I wondered about Nikon adaptability, but have long wondered about the effects of lens adaptors on focus.

It seems to me, in my naïve and limited comprehension, that if a lens is designed to focus accurately from the lens mount, anything that moves it farther away from the body would change the focus range, like an extension tube. Obviously, that would not be the case in practice, but it does raise a question about if the range of focus is ever effected by adaptors?

Just wondering.
 
The adapters ARE like extension tubes. The Nikon lens mount on a Nikon camera is farther away from the film/sensor than the Fuji lens mount is from from the sensor on a Fuji camera. So if you just glued a Nikon lens to the front of your Fuji camera, it would be too close to the sensor, and focus range would be compromised. The point of the adapter, besides keeping the lens from falling off of the camera, is to hold the lens at the proper distance from the sensor and give the full range of focus.
 

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