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1000 terabytes on a DVD - yes please!

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Mark den Hartog said:
Mark den Hartog said:
At home, I can UNPLUG my computer from the net. Not as much to protect from theft as to minimize exposure to hackers and viruses. (One of the reasons I will NOT hook my camera up to the computer and/or, especially, the net.)
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Most people don't do that. I'm guessing you don't either.
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You guess wrong... Have separate computer systems for photo work and email/browsing...

Mark den Hartog said:
Mark den Hartog said:
You also don't factor in the advance (and growth) in camera resolution with the attendant increase in file size and data transfer speeds.
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Actually, I do. Internet is a fast growing B!tch
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??? Internet, no. For the picture files... size of media to hold a whole session (where I don't have to swap cards in the middle of a shoot segment) and transfer to computer and permanent storage. A weekend shoot (RAW) will easily go 120-160 GB and I don't like spreading it over multiple discs... don't like but now I don't have much choice. Side issue, if I depended on online storage, is online upload speed...
Mark den Hartog said:
Mark den Hartog said:
We each have our own comfort level with public exposure of our property and believe it or not, not everyone is as trusting or int he same frame of mind as you are.
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I totally agree on that one.

When the first internet shops came out everyone was very wary, nowadays it's the most common way to get a good deal.
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I don't have an issue with online merchants (use them heavily), I have an issue with the hackers and freaks tucking in trojans and viruses to attack MY computers. THAT is why I don't want my camera exposed to the net and keep my photo computer's exposure to a minimum.
Mark den Hartog said:
Cheers,

Mark
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Soooo, getting back to the original thread and your comment about BluRay being the end of the line... I really doubt it. May transition from spinning discs to solid state devices but NOT the end of the line by a long shot.

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Ric
 
RicAllan said:
Soooo, getting back to the original thread and your comment about BluRay being the end of the line... I really doubt it. May transition from spinning discs to solid state devices but NOT the end of the line by a long shot.

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Ric
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only time will tell.

so you are using blu-rays now as a backup?
 
Well, first of all, I don't have more than about 3 terabytes of images, data, documents, and junk. I can see that expand by a factor of 10 as more things go digital, but that's still a factor of 30 to be accounted for. However, I don't do video, so that's probably where all that storage would be used for most people.

I doubt that I could keep track of 1000 terabytes of images/data/etc. I have enough trouble finding things that I have now.

I quit storing data on CD/DVD probably more than 15 years ago. I found some of the disks to be unreadable in as little as 3 years after writing. Trusting that much data to stay in one place is not in my cards. Of course I could spend a couple months writing several of the disks, but in that time I'm generating more data. I really prefer external hard drives. In my experience they're much more reliable than the CD/DVD's (although I understand they're not perfect -- that's why I save my data on 3 of them).

I would think that as the data density goes up on something like a disk, the susceptibility to defects and scratches in the medium would increase. Even light abrasion of the surface would probably cause a few gigabytes to drop out. Fingerprints. Dust. The cleanliness requirements would also extend to the reader (and writer) and you'd probably have to go through a cleaning cycle before trying to read or write anything. Requirements for more perfect media would increase the cost of the media significantly. You can buy a CD for probably 10-25 cents. One of these things would cost hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars (at least initially).

Sounds like it has a bit of development to go through to make it practicable.
 
Mark den Hartog said:
Mark den Hartog wrote:
Mark den Hartog said:
Soooo, getting back to the original thread and your comment about BluRay being the end of the line... I really doubt it. May transition from spinning discs to solid state devices but NOT the end of the line by a long shot.

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Ric
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only time will tell.

so you are using blu-rays now as a backup?
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No, it's cheaper to collect (multiple) external USB drives...
 
RicAllan said:
RicAllan wrote:
RicAllan said:
Mark den Hartog wrote:
RicAllan said:
Soooo, getting back to the original thread and your comment about BluRay being the end of the line... I really doubt it. May transition from spinning discs to solid state devices but NOT the end of the line by a long shot.

--

Ric
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only time will tell.

so you are using blu-rays now as a backup?
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No, it's cheaper to collect (multiple) external USB drives...
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I rest my case ;-)

RicAllan said:
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Ric
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Agree - think the future will be storing images on higher capacity Hard Disks and to the Cloud - question with the Cloud; is security; IP theft; Capacity and cost, e.g., £30 p.m for 8TB storage and upload/download speed, etc.

Also Higher Resolution cameras, phones, camcorders shooting 4-8K will be coming into play and common in the next 5 years - this will have big impact on off site and on the cloud storage.
 
Mark den Hartog said:
Mark den Hartog wrote:
Mark den Hartog said:
RicAllan wrote:
Mark den Hartog said:
Mark den Hartog wrote:
Mark den Hartog said:
Soooo, getting back to the original thread and your comment about BluRay being the end of the line... I really doubt it. May transition from spinning discs to solid state devices but NOT the end of the line by a long shot.

--

Ric
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only time will tell.

so you are using blu-rays now as a backup?
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No, it's cheaper to collect (multiple) external USB drives...
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I rest my case ;-)
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coronawithlime wrote:

More to the point, who's comfortable with having 1000 tb stored in one place? How many do you have to burn to be comfortable?
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Even if you burn a dozen - I wonder how long they would last without deteriorating?

Smaller dots on something like a DVD with an exposed surface doesn't sound like it would be too reliable.
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Wonder how long it takes to burn 1000 tb? I'm already 65, I might not make it. :)
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eNo said:
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Mark den Hartog wrote:

at this rate we all be working in the cloud in 10 years (usually that means 5 :-))
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Analogy for you: do you still need cash? Many of us have a safe at home to stash some cash and valuables. The equivalent to the digital cloud here is online banking, ATM cards and credit cards. There will always be a need for local, non-"cloud" storage. IMO, trusting in the "cloud" for everything is foolish... it's not even FDIC insured.
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PRISM will probably back up everything you store on the cloud. Trying to get hold of that back up might be a bit difficult though.
 
RicAllan said:
RicAllan wrote:
RicAllan said:
Mark den Hartog wrote:
RicAllan said:
RicAllan wrote:
RicAllan said:
Mark den Hartog wrote:
RicAllan said:
Soooo, getting back to the original thread and your comment about BluRay being the end of the line... I really doubt it. May transition from spinning discs to solid state devices but NOT the end of the line by a long shot.

--

Ric
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only time will tell.

so you are using blu-rays now as a backup?
Click to expand...
No, it's cheaper to collect (multiple) external USB drives...
Click to expand...
I rest my case ;-)
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Mark den Hartog said:
Mark den Hartog wrote:
Mark den Hartog said:
RicAllan wrote:
Mark den Hartog said:
Mark den Hartog wrote:
Mark den Hartog said:
RicAllan wrote:
Mark den Hartog said:
Mark den Hartog wrote:
Mark den Hartog said:
Soooo, getting back to the original thread and your comment about BluRay being the end of the line... I really doubt it. May transition from spinning discs to solid state devices but NOT the end of the line by a long shot.

--

Ric
Click to expand...
only time will tell.

so you are using blu-rays now as a backup?
Click to expand...
No, it's cheaper to collect (multiple) external USB drives...
Click to expand...
I rest my case ;-)
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RicAllan said:
RicAllan wrote:
RicAllan said:
Mark den Hartog wrote:
RicAllan said:
RicAllan wrote:
RicAllan said:
Mark den Hartog wrote:
RicAllan said:
RicAllan wrote:
RicAllan said:
Mark den Hartog wrote:
RicAllan said:
Soooo, getting back to the original thread and your comment about BluRay being the end of the line... I really doubt it. May transition from spinning discs to solid state devices but NOT the end of the line by a long shot.

--

Ric
Click to expand...
only time will tell.

so you are using blu-rays now as a backup?
Click to expand...
No, it's cheaper to collect (multiple) external USB drives...
Click to expand...
I rest my case ;-)
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Mark den Hartog said:
Mark den Hartog wrote:
Mark den Hartog said:
RicAllan wrote:
Mark den Hartog said:
Mark den Hartog wrote:
Mark den Hartog said:
RicAllan wrote:
Mark den Hartog said:
Mark den Hartog wrote:
Mark den Hartog said:
RicAllan wrote:
Mark den Hartog said:
Mark den Hartog wrote:
Mark den Hartog said:
Soooo, getting back to the original thread and your comment about BluRay being the end of the line... I really doubt it. May transition from spinning discs to solid state devices but NOT the end of the line by a long shot.

--

Ric
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only time will tell.

so you are using blu-rays now as a backup?
Click to expand...
No, it's cheaper to collect (multiple) external USB drives...
Click to expand...
I rest my case ;-)
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