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Hi everyone. I recently ordered a Minolta MD 50mm f1.4 and a Rainbow imaging adaptor for my Nex 5R, because of previous posts here on dpreview showing great quality + low cost.

Since I'll be using the adaptor, I might as well get a few more Minolta lenses.

Are there any great ones you would recommend?
 
Runnicle wrote:

Those are some fabulous photos, Steve. But I'm just not that familiar with Flickr galleries to be able to discover how one learns the identity of the camera & lens used for each picture posted on it. Was just the linked photo taken with the Min 50 f/3.5 macro, or are there also others in addition?
Thanks! I have the lenses I used in the photo captions. Should be visible directly below each photo.
 
skrichten wrote:
Runnicle wrote:

Those are some fabulous photos, Steve. But I'm just not that familiar with Flickr galleries to be able to discover how one learns the identity of the camera & lens used for each picture posted on it. Was just the linked photo taken with the Min 50 f/3.5 macro, or are there also others in addition?
Thanks! I have the lenses I used in the photo captions. Should be visible directly below each photo.
I should say I have the lens listed there for the more recent photos. Only those were taken with minolta.
 
Steve, several of your un-labeled macro shots (e.g. 824) still have great color and detail even after cropping. What camera and lens did you use on 824?
 
YOLO wrote:

Yes this. MD 35-70mm f3.5 which you can MOD to make it f/2.8. I have 2 of these...let me know if you want to purchase one.

Reviews

http://www.talknex.com/f12/rokkor-35-70-3-5-macro-review-1750/

http://www.fourseasonshd.com/cgi-bin/csvsearch.pl?db=db1&tp=tp4&search=3570macro

F2.8 Modification

Yolo, are there real advantages to gaining 2/3 of a stop on this lens ? In other words, the 35-70mm is a very sharp zoom wide open at f3.5, is it still the same at f2.8 ?

If you happen to have a sample picture, I would much appreciate it.

Marc
 
Runnicle wrote:

Steve, several of your un-labeled macro shots (e.g. 824) still have great color and detail even after cropping. What camera and lens did you use on 824?
Thanks again! That one is actually only cropped a small amount, For that shot I used the SEL 55210 believe it or not. I added my Olympus mcon 35 to get the close focus/magnification. Yields about 1:2 reproduction ratio.
 
Steve, whatever you did for those macro shots, it worked. I liked them so much that I found an Mcon 35 on eBay and bought it today. I also found some Mcon 40's that fit 55mm threads. But I presume that I can get the Mcon 35 to also fit 55mm threads with a simple step-down converter, wouldn' t you think so? Thanks again for the info about the Mcon 35.
 
xenoss wrote:

Hi everyone. I recently ordered a Minolta MD 50mm f1.4 and a Rainbow imaging adaptor for my Nex 5R, because of previous posts here on dpreview showing great quality + low cost.

Since I'll be using the adaptor, I might as well get a few more Minolta lenses.

Are there any great ones you would recommend?
45/2 pancake, 100/2.5, 28-85/3.5-4.5, 70-210/4, 20/2.8, 200/2.8, 100/4 macro, 85/1.7, 50/1.2, 58/1.2, 250/5.6 and 500/8 RF, 300/4.5 are all great lenses to look at.
 
ProfHank...thanks for your always sage advice. I managed to locate a well-priced 28 2.5 today. Just from curiosity, with which of your other 125 lenses is the 28 2.5 tied for sharpest?
 
Runnicle wrote:

ProfHank...thanks for your always sage advice. I managed to locate a well-priced 28 2.5 today. Just from curiosity, with which of your other 125 lenses is the 28 2.5 tied for sharpest?
Super sharpness is just one aspect of great IQ, and not necessarily the most important one. However, I'll answer your question....

Very sharp lenses are easy to spot with a NEX. Simply mount the lens and see how much peaking you get on the focus area with the lens wide open and magnified view turned on. You're really measuring microcontrast at the enlarged "pixel" resolution, but that's close enough to spot most of the super sharp lenses.

There are a fair number of contenders for sharpest lens overall, unsurprisingly including several fast 50s and macros. The best one a lot like the 28mm f/2.5 Rokkor is my Canon FD 24mm f/2.8 SSC. The most different contender is a Rodenstock Omegaron 150mm f/4.5 4x5-format enlarger lens:

The Rodenstock mounted on my B&J 4x5; my NEX mounts on the back of the B&J.
The Rodenstock mounted on my B&J 4x5; my NEX mounts on the back of the B&J.

Yup, a 4x5 enlarger lens is a contender for best lppmm! This lens is particularly strange because it also has a ton of blades giving a nicely round aperture and very pretty bokeh. Why they were worried about bokeh for an enlarger lens beats me.... ;-)

Anyway, the coolest thing about NEX is how well it works with just about any lens, so feel free to play. Most of my lenses cost under $30 each including shipping. The 24mm f/2.8 I mentioned above actually came along for the ride in a lot I bought for a different lens it contained... it was essentially free. The unfortunate thing is that you don't get to do the quick peaking test before buying a lens via eBay -- but you can do it in person.
 
Since focus peaking on Nex with e-mount and manual lenses is detecting contrast differences, would it not follow that peaking would be maximuzed on lenses with high contrast rather than just a reflection of how sharp a lens is?
 
Runnicle wrote:

Steve, whatever you did for those macro shots, it worked. I liked them so much that I found an Mcon 35 on eBay and bought it today. I also found some Mcon 40's that fit 55mm threads. But I presume that I can get the Mcon 35 to also fit 55mm threads with a simple step-down converter, wouldn' t you think so? Thanks again for the info about the Mcon 35.
Absolutely. I've used it with just about every lens I own. Just step up to 62mm and you're good to go.
 
Runnicle wrote:

Since focus peaking on Nex with e-mount and manual lenses is detecting contrast differences, would it not follow that peaking would be maximuzed on lenses with high contrast rather than just a reflection of how sharp a lens is?
Yes, peaking is measuring (micro)contrast, but high contrast at the pixel level is highly correlated with a high MTF. Thus, especially in a magnified view, the degree of peaking for the same scene imaged by one lens vs. another is a very good indicator of high resolution at high microcontrast (i.e., high sharpness).

This leads to a very controversial point I've made several times before: it is true that some lenses that have very low microcontrast can actually out-resolve ones with high microcontrast. Consider two lenses. Suppose that the (2D) energy distribution in the in-focus PSF of each is:

Which energy distribution gives higher sharpness?
Which energy distribution gives higher sharpness?

Let's assume the total energy (area under each curve) is the same. Clearly, the blue curve has more energy placed within any diameter region around the center -- thus, it has higher microcontrast and would get a higher MTF 50 resolution. However, there is a much sharper point in the red curve. Thus, it is actually possible to resolve finer detail with the red lens (but at lower microcontrast until some tonal adjustment is made).

There are plenty of exceptions, but modern lenses tend to look like the blue and older ones like the red. Why? Better coatings improve contrast but looser tolerances (due to autofocus, etc.) don't give as sharp a point. Given that digital cameras linearly count photons but our sensitivity is logarithmic, I claim the red lens can reliably outresolve the blue one with good microcontrast after a little postprocessing.

For what it's worth, the lenses that show lots of peaking at all magnifications tend to have energy distributions that look like sharper-sloped narrow peaks... which is good no matter how you think about it. Well, unless the peak is too small, and then we have to start talking about anti-aliasing filters and such. ;-)
 
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Except the Sony and Canon... all other lens are minolta MD mount. I'm selling any if interested.

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Hi

I am interested in the MD Minolta 35-70mm f3.5 Macro Zoom Lens if you have one. Please let me know.



Thank you.
 
Happy owner of Minolta MD lenses:
  • 45mm f2
  • 50mm f1.4
  • 35-135mm f3.5-4.5 ("macro" 1:4)
  • 85mm f2
  • 135mm f2.8
  • 70-210mm f4
I can recommend all of these, apart from the last which doesn't convince me yet, further testing needed to make up my mind.

So far, the sharpest is the 85mm one.

For 24mm in MD mount I went for a Sigma Super Wide II f2.8 ("macro" 1:4) with which I got some very nice results.

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Some photos taken since I bought my Nex-6&7: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dimitriv/
 

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