and there goes any credibility you had and any chance of anyone taking anything you say seriously every again. Looks like Scott Eaton hit a little too close to home.
Exactly. My sisters boyfriend bought a lap top with Win 8 and you know what he does every time he turns it on? You guessed it! He clicks the icon to go to the desktop and stays out of the metro interface as much as possible. As you can imagine he finds it incredible frustrating that the computer wont' just load up the desktop like his win 7 laptop. It is such a no brainier to give people the option to use win 8 like win 7 I really don't understand why MS didn't do it and why people are arguing against it. After all at least since Win XP MS has always given you the option the make your widows ui function like it did in a previous version.
True. It is easy to see that MS's eventual goal is to have one OS for every platform. Win 8 is just the first step in that direction.
So does Apple, it is the future like it or not.
You realise that Win7 has UAC too ?
Excellent! Yep, W8 is merely an attept by MS to maintain its position in the digital world, or at least stem the tide of its receding customer base. There is NO significant payoff for people to go from 7 to 8 unless you're a dedicated YouTube/Facebook/Twitter/Instgram/Hulu/etc.-addict. Someone else said that W7 is for content producers while W8 is for content consumers.
There are three significant reasons why UAC isn't as much of a problem in Windows 7 as it was in Vista:
Yeah, Microsoft gets the sh!t when it's the 3rd party who is the main source for problems *cough*NVIDIA*cough*
True. Lack of good third party driver support and systems being sold that just barely met the minimum system requirements were two of the main reasons Vista got so much bad press in the early days.
This is a very good way of describing the deeper problem! Sure, metro doesn't add almost anything to anyone's life at the desktop or laptop, and that is the reason why MS are running such a hard advertising campaign. I can't remember any ads of Windows 7 myself - yet when reading various forums about preview releases most people liked what was to come and didn't need any ads to want to buy the system. The reason was that at that time MS gave people what they wanted and their product added something to their lives.
That just re enforces what lemon_juice said, the first part not the ridiculous part comparing apple and MS through a sex metaphor. The big problem MS has with Win 8 is that it offers nothing over Win 7 to make it worth buying or putting up with learning a whole new kludge of a GUI. Most people on XP or Vista have already switched to Win 7. Bad news for MS since those are the only people who would really consider switching to win 8. For everyone else on Win 7 they already have a very stable, proven, fast OS with a familiar and more productive UI. They have no reason to spend more money to switch to Win 8. And that is just on the home side, when talking about a business like in the article Win 8 is simply a non starter due to the cost of switching and that it is a new, unproven OS and Win 7 already has a great track record. The businesses that are sill running XP and want to upgrade will pick Win 7 since it is easier to learn coming form XP than Win 8 would be and again has that proven track record.
Well, so far, a hazmat suit, or personal body armor doesn't seem required. I think it is obvious to even the staunchest Windows defenders that Win 8 had nothing to do with consumer need, and everything to do with 'strategic position'. That the consumer was expected to just shut-up and get out the credit card. . .
Thanks, this is an interesting story. Quite consoling that things are not much better on the other side. They don't have the UI madness there but there are other things being dumbed down. I must say that despite my dislike about windows 8 I think I'd still prefer it over Mac OS X.
Really all MS had to do to make Win 8 an instant hit was give the user the option to completely turn off that metro BS and have it off by default on non touch screen computers, especially in the pro and enterprise editions. Just look at third party solutions like Start is Back. With that if you want you can have a start menu almost exactly like the one in win 7 and boot straight to the desktop making you pretty much never have to use the metro interface for anything except running metro apps. It is like $3 for a 2 computer license and is highly customizable. It si the best start menu/metro replacement software for win 8 you can get IMO. If a third party developer can do it that well, easily, and cheap there is no excuse for MS not to have just given people this option in the first place.
This is the first version of the Metro UI - I think subsequent versions are very likely to address a lot of issues like this. I also hope to see it be a little more intelligent about screen real estate - on a screen with lots of resolution and a fairly large physical size, I'd like to see it add features like a taskbar and multiple-window support. If they do that kind of thing right they have the potential to replace the desktop UI alltogether without alienating everyone.
I think many of these ideas are quite excellent, and I would love to see them carried out. I would also like to see better parity between the metro interface and the desktop interface. If I have a tab open in metro IE and switch to the desktop, I would love for the same site to be open in IE there as well.
Conversely, they could eliminate the Desktop they left behind to make those resistant to change have a warm fuzzy feeling. On Metro I have my LR4 tile, my Photo Ninja tile, etc... I hate that when I click the tile to launch the whole screen flops to desktop vs. just opening over the start page like many of the other apps. I suspect this is a technical requirement until 3rd party programs can catch up and change some code. Ideally there would be Win 8 (without any desktop) and Win 8 old school (desktop version). There are programs to get Win 8 old school, but no programs to lock in completely on the Modern interface without hopping over to the Desktop. This fact annoys me a bit conceptually. With that said, my speed of access to my photography online and elsewhere blows away anything I could have accomplished on Win 7. I find Win 8 EXTREMELY complimentary to my photography hobby vs. ANY other existing OS or OS version.
