Flash is becoming absolete ...

ScottnLaguna wrote:
pavi1 wrote:
ScottnLaguna wrote:

As I use many of my photos for reference material for painting, I do not like flash for light. Or even fill. Give weird and un-natural shadows. I have good cameras and lenses to avoid using a flash.
No camera how ever good will ever be able o turn bad light into good light. Flash is not the only means to good light. You have chosen to shoot in good light not created by flash, and certainly not created by your good camera
 
ScottnLaguna wrote:
CraigBennett wrote:
ScottnLaguna wrote:

As I use many of my photos for reference material for painting, I do not like flash for light. Or even fill. Give weird and un-natural shadows. I have good cameras and lenses to avoid using a flash.
Perhaps, I bet most of us learned about light and flash use by studying the great painters. They knew how to paint "light" on their subject.

I have good camera, good lenses, and good flashes. Nowadays, I try my best to use flash every chance I get. Technology simply cannot replace the correct placement of flashes (or light source). And it will take time before non-flash lights can delivery the high output needed for overcoming the sun economically.

In any case, I simply don't care how sensitive a sensor is, it does not replace or cover for good lighting techniques.

Regards,
 
dwight3 wrote:

Photography means "writing (or drawing) with light". A flash is a source of light you can use to do the writing or drawing. The advent of the D3 issued in an era of really high sensitivity sensors, but did not cause the demise of the flash.
That neatly summarizes a feeling I've had for sometime. Photography starts with light, yet in this high ISO race, it seems people are chasing the ability to make photos in the absence of light.
I would be more likely to state that on-camera flash is becoming obsolete.
By which you probably don't mean bounced on-camera flash.
 
eNo wrote:
There is no doubt that my skill set with flash is minimal.
And that's my concern with some folks that disdain flash in favor of "natural" or "ambient" light. They are setting it aside an important tool -- and potentially foregoing key shots, or turning them into sub-standard shots -- because they do not know how to use it, nor care to spend the time to practice and learn. Just bouncing an on-camera flash indoors will open all sorts of possibilities and will give you looks you couldn't achieve by shooting at f1.4 and ISO3200. If you want it to look like ambient light, gel it to taste.

BTW, flash, on-camera bounced and off-camera, will also teach you and re-inforce how to use *any* lighting well. I usually now use flash very, very little outdoors, but I understand how to place my subjects with respect to direction of light thanks to all the experimentation I did with flash.
 
carlk wrote:

Not so fast. The article is obviously written by an engineer not a photographer.
Not written by an engineer either. An engineer would know what falconeyes wrote in the previous post.

The article is IMHO written by a self promoting BSe.
Photography is all about light. The spectral content shot at EV1 with availble light, for example, is totally different than the same scene shot at EV8 using a flash no matter how sensitive the sensor is. You have to use flash (or other lighting) for certain effects under some situations regardless of camera or sensor.
 
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mmmmmmmm wrote:

Flash will never be obsolete. there are many times when flash is needed. For instance, creating a light direction, fill lighting, and defining shadows. What separates the average photographer from a great photographer is the use of light to create shadows or light direction when needed. So many pictures posted today are really bland that are taken without flash or reflector fill. try getting your flash off camera and then look at the quality of picture that can be taken.

respectfully,

David Miller
I agree. Other than composing the shot manipulating light is really an art in photography.
 
...maybe not just yet. Regardless how sensitive a sensor is you will always need some kind of artificial light if you want to be in control. Photography is about light, not just recording an image.
 
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