jacksonbird03
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Is the camera quality of smartphone is good to take good quality pictures....
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Zone8
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No! The required (by users) slimness of such devices means no ability to (at least yet) be able to incorporate a decent sized sensor so whilst clalims are made for quality - they are really not a serious tool for anyone with quality in mind. However, perhaps in time (and things do move quickly) they may get a larger sensor - say at least compact camera half inch size - with a neat extending lens but I cannot see it coming yet.
BTW - I do have a Samsung Galaxy Note II and whilst it can take decent enough happy snaps - no use to me for any serious work whatsoever.
BTW - I do have a Samsung Galaxy Note II and whilst it can take decent enough happy snaps - no use to me for any serious work whatsoever.
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hehe. See above thread about Camphones being the future of photography. I'm firmly in the camp that camphones are for emergencies only, for many reasons. But there are many people who argue otherwise 
phones have serious limitations when it comes to taking good pictures. They are just not designed for it. They have tiny lenses, tiny sensors, mediocre handling (laggy, clumsy, frustrating interfaces to actually take photos). For an easy, low contrast bright outdoor image then you can compare a phone pic to almost any other camera favourably on a computer screen. And this is how you will see pro-camphone users comparing their shots with "Real cameras". For high-contrast or low light-with-movement, hi ISO shots, and at higher resolutions, the differences become quickly apparent.
It really depends how critical you are about your image quality. Some people just won't acknowledge the differences unless you highlight them to them, others instantly see the differences and cannot bear to see camphone images.
Its a bit like the aural equivalent of listening to 128kb mp3's or SACD originals. Some people cannot even hear the difference or think it's irrelevant.
phones have serious limitations when it comes to taking good pictures. They are just not designed for it. They have tiny lenses, tiny sensors, mediocre handling (laggy, clumsy, frustrating interfaces to actually take photos). For an easy, low contrast bright outdoor image then you can compare a phone pic to almost any other camera favourably on a computer screen. And this is how you will see pro-camphone users comparing their shots with "Real cameras". For high-contrast or low light-with-movement, hi ISO shots, and at higher resolutions, the differences become quickly apparent.
It really depends how critical you are about your image quality. Some people just won't acknowledge the differences unless you highlight them to them, others instantly see the differences and cannot bear to see camphone images.
Its a bit like the aural equivalent of listening to 128kb mp3's or SACD originals. Some people cannot even hear the difference or think it's irrelevant.
zxaar
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Here is what I find intreresting.
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connect.dpreview.com
Here is the quote:
"Thanks to its fast F2.0 lens, ISO 3200 and optical image stabilization the Lumia 925 could capture an image at a shutter speed of 1/4 sec. The iPhone 4S could not capture anything resembling an image in the dark conditions. With the 6D we could hardly see anything through the viewfinder and the focus was very slow but we took an image at 1/15 sec, F2.8 and ISO 25600. "
Good luck dSLRs , you will need it.
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True - if you like the poor quality from smartphones of course. I suppose it all depends on how easily someone is satisfied. My smartphone has one of the better built-in cameras (Samsung Galaxy Note II) but I would only consider it handy for a quick happy snap - for example should an incident occur when I did not have my DSLR with me. As regards actual photographic quality - only a very poor photographer would like the end result.
Maybe one day - when people stop wanting very slim phones, so better lenses and larger sensors (perhaps ½" ones as in compacts) can be fitted it may oust simple basic compacts with basic functions. Other than that - people who think smartphone cameras produce any sort of acceptable quality are, imho, incapable of knowing what quality means in the real world.
brucet
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I have a Galaxy 111. Takes great photos. But those photos will not stand for any editing.
They will print great at 6x4. That's it.
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They will print great at 6x4. That's it.
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MichaelKJ
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I would guess that at least 90% of people never print larger that 4X6 or possibly 5x7.
joejack951
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I have a couple of problems with what DPR wrote there. First, with no images to compare, there's, well, no comparison. Having seen what the 1/1.7" sensor in the P7700 can do at ISO 3200, I doubt I'll be impressed the Lumia 925's image.
Second, why did they shoot the 6D at 1/15" and ISO 25600? Surely, the 6D could be handheld at 1/4" as easily (likely far more easily) than a phone. That would have dropped the ISO down to a far cleaner 6400. 1/4" is only 3-stops from 1/FL at 32mm. Theoretically, they could have used 24mm, 1/1.5", and ISO 2000 or so.
Third, I've shot in darker conditions and didn't have an issue seeing through the viewfinder. Perhaps the issue was staring at a bright LCD on the phone for too long before using the DSLR.
zxaar
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It is not that this comparison is anything to discuss, the point is once companies start to put effort in developing cameras in phones, things would change a lot.
They could off course shoot with F1.2 type lens on canon 6d, this comparison does not belittle 6D, but shows that in smartphones things are improving.Probably this is the only point of comparison.
tex
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Caveats: They don't do Tele. They don't do action that well (although that's starting to be arguable----check out the new Samsung Galaxy S4 action functions...). The low light capabilities of most aren't great, but some new ones are decent. They don't "accessorize" as well.
But for snaps, generally, the quality is better than "good enough" in good light, especially for web use or printing 5x7 (inches) or below. With care certain images will look great at 8x10(inches).
But for snaps, generally, the quality is better than "good enough" in good light, especially for web use or printing 5x7 (inches) or below. With care certain images will look great at 8x10(inches).
joejack951
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Cameras have been in phones for quite a while now. They've just managed to get good enough to the point where most people don't think it's worth it to also carry a cheap compact P&S.
While that is progress, I'd say it's quite a bit off from figuring out that the world isn't flat, and drastically far away from landing on Mars (or competing with DSLRs).
Given how much Apple loves to talk about the cameras in their phones, I'd say there's been quite a bit of effort put into getting them where they are today.
A smartphone camera has a number of technical limitations. Some types of photography would be hopeless, such as fast sports, extreme low light, or wildlife via long telephoto.
But that's an asinine why to think about photography. Photography is about images, not pixels. Can you make great images with an iPhone? Absolutely. It's good for some things, poor for others.
Is the glass half empty or half full? Decide for yourself.
http://instagram.com/kevinruss
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/stor...entary-photographer-now-shoots-with-an-iphone
http://terrywhitephotography.com/galleries/iphone/
If you want a side-by-side pixel-to-pixel comparison, then of course cameras will have an advantage. After all, they were designed to take photos. But camera phones have improved greatly in recent years. I'd say that they are on par with the DC's from a couple years back.
But image quality is only one part of the equation. I'm more than happy with the quality of my phone's camera, and its ability to capture moments when I need it to.
The 2 following shots were done on Easter Island. The first one was a back-up shot after I'd already shot a few images with my camera. The second one was shot on my way to dinner, when I had left my camera in the hotel.
Main Quarry, Rapa Nui - Sony Xperia Pro
Sunset at Rapa Nui - Sony Xperia Pro
In terms of resolution, I think the following 2 photos demonstrate an impressive level of detail (look closely and you'll see a baby spider on the big spider's back)
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Photography - It's not what you look at that matters; it's what you see.
Galleries: http://www.photo.net/photos/teru
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