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I write this post on occasion when a manufacturer seems (IMHO and needs) to be missing a major feature in their camera. I am not sure why manufacturers keep omitting an articulating (or flip up) LCD. It seems there is not a photographing day when I need this feature. I would expect that a single camera (Nikon 1 J2 or Nikon 1 S1) would not have an articulating LCD for those who want the extra small camera. However, I would expect every system would have a model with an articulating LCD. The V2 would seem to me to be that model. This is a major reason why I never got into the Nikon 1 system.

This post also goes for the Sony RX's and Canon M's.

(Note: I am a Nikon DSLR, Canon DSLR and u43rds user)
 
4thnebula said:
4thnebula wrote:

I write this post on occasion when a manufacturer seems (IMHO and needs) to be missing a major feature in their camera. I am not sure why manufacturers keep omitting an articulating (or flip up) LCD. It seems there is not a photographing day when I need this feature. I would expect that a single camera (Nikon 1 J2 or Nikon 1 S1) would not have an articulating LCD for those who want the extra small camera. However, I would expect every system would have a model with an articulating LCD. The V2 would seem to me to be that model. This is a major reason why I never got into the Nikon 1 system.

This post also goes for the Sony RX's and Canon M's.

(Note: I am a Nikon DSLR, Canon DSLR and u43rds user)
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Don't worry. After Nikon reads your post, they will immediately start outfitting all new V2's with an articulating screen, and offer all current V2 users a retrofit option.
 
Should be a firmware release out any day now.

Nikon is still working on trying to do something on the D90.
 
4thnebula said:
4thnebula wrote:

I write this post on occasion when a manufacturer seems (IMHO and needs) to be missing a major feature in their camera. I am not sure why manufacturers keep omitting an articulating (or flip up) LCD. It seems there is not a photographing day when I need this feature. I would expect that a single camera (Nikon 1 J2 or Nikon 1 S1) would not have an articulating LCD for those who want the extra small camera. However, I would expect every system would have a model with an articulating LCD. The V2 would seem to me to be that model. This is a major reason why I never got into the Nikon 1 system.

This post also goes for the Sony RX's and Canon M's.

(Note: I am a Nikon DSLR, Canon DSLR and u43rds user)
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I bought a Nikon d5100 for a back-up to my d7000 thinking I would use the articulating LCD for macro and maybe something else. Since then I have used the articulating LCD exactly three times. I own two Nikon V1's without an articulating screen and have never needed the feature even once. So although I understand some feel they need an articulating LCD, I don't need or want one because they add bulk, and/or reduce the size of the LCD and like all LCDs, are just about useless in bright sunlight.

There are plenty of other cameras out there with articulating LCD to keep folks like you happy though!

... Different strokes for different folks. :-|

- Jon
 
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Exactly the reason I don't buy into Fuji and Canons current line of mirrorless aswell. Once you've started using your camera like a medium format looking down on the display, camera close to body and elbows tucked in you'll never go back to holding a camera at arms length again. It's perfect for street photography or anywhere where you don't want to stand out. With that in mind I also much prefer the vertical tilting screens which I use daily rather than the fold out and hang off the side style which I'd probably only use under certain circumstances.
 
boogieboogie said:
boogieboogie wrote:

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Exactly the reason I don't buy into Fuji and Canons current line of mirrorless aswell. Once you've started using your camera like a medium format looking down on the display, camera close to body and elbows tucked in you'll never go back to holding a camera at arms length again. It's perfect for street photography or anywhere where you don't want to stand out. With that in mind I also much prefer the vertical tilting screens which I use daily rather than the fold out and hang off the side style which I'd probably only use under certain circumstances.
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The V2 has an EVF viewfinder, so there is no need to hold the camera at arms length to compose the scene, just put the camera to your eye instead. But it sounds like your goal is to photograph strangers surreptitiously, so now I understand why you and others of your sort would want an articulated screen. I never do that, as all my photography is above board, so I did not understand the reason some required an articulated screen. Now I know. :-|


- Jon
 
I am with you.

I always had at least 1 camera with articulating LCD for the past 10 yrs (Nikon 2500, Canon A80, Canon S5, Nikon D5000, etc). And I noticed that the camera I tend to carry the most is the one that has articulated LCD. The other ones I usually take when I have something specific (waterproof Camera for beach and water rides and jungle, FX DSLR for indoor sports, N1 with silent shutter for recitals or extra tele reach, etc). Ido believe the best camera you have is the one that you have with you and not at home.

Currently, I use Samsung EX2F for this purpose, but I would love to trade it up for a V2 type camera with articulating LCD.
 
Well that would be probably most useful for videographing and in uncertain situations where people just use the rear LCD for composition (macros, street shots out of the belly and wrist etc.).

Though for stills I personally do prefer to use an VF for composition here, which gives me an overall better feeling of framing and somehow being closer with the eyes to the scene!
 
jonikon said:
jonikon wrote:
jonikon said:
boogieboogie wrote:

+1

Exactly the reason I don't buy into Fuji and Canons current line of mirrorless aswell. Once you've started using your camera like a medium format looking down on the display, camera close to body and elbows tucked in you'll never go back to holding a camera at arms length again. It's perfect for street photography or anywhere where you don't want to stand out. With that in mind I also much prefer the vertical tilting screens which I use daily rather than the fold out and hang off the side style which I'd probably only use under certain circumstances.
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The V2 has an EVF viewfinder, so there is no need to hold the camera at arms length to compose the scene, just put the camera to your eye instead. But it sounds like your goal is to photograph strangers surreptitiously, so now I understand why you and others of your sort would want an articulated screen. I never do that, as all my photography is above board, so I did not understand the reason some required an articulated screen. Now I know. :-|

- Jon
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...and your "sort" are just plain rude and liable to get themselves into trouble for making unfounded accusations about people they've never met.
 
I've just bought the V2 and don't see any reason for an articulated LCD. In fact I don't miss such feature at all and I am glad V2 doesn't have it.
4thnebula said:
4thnebula wrote:

I write this post on occasion when a manufacturer seems (IMHO and needs) to be missing a major feature in their camera. I am not sure why manufacturers keep omitting an articulating (or flip up) LCD. It seems there is not a photographing day when I need this feature. I would expect that a single camera (Nikon 1 J2 or Nikon 1 S1) would not have an articulating LCD for those who want the extra small camera. However, I would expect every system would have a model with an articulating LCD. The V2 would seem to me to be that model. This is a major reason why I never got into the Nikon 1 system.

This post also goes for the Sony RX's and Canon M's.

(Note: I am a Nikon DSLR, Canon DSLR and u43rds user)
Click to expand...
 
4thnebula said:
4thnebula wrote:

I write this post on occasion when a manufacturer seems (IMHO and needs) to be missing a major feature in their camera. I am not sure why manufacturers keep omitting an articulating (or flip up) LCD. It seems there is not a photographing day when I need this feature. I would expect that a single camera (Nikon 1 J2 or Nikon 1 S1) would not have an articulating LCD for those who want the extra small camera. However, I would expect every system would have a model with an articulating LCD. The V2 would seem to me to be that model. This is a major reason why I never got into the Nikon 1 system.

This post also goes for the Sony RX's and Canon M's.

(Note: I am a Nikon DSLR, Canon DSLR and u43rds user)
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It would be nice if it added n cost or size or weight, but it would, and I doubt I'd use it. For a camera with no viewfinder I do see the need, as it's often hard to see the screen, but I use the vf almost always on my V1.
 
4thnebula said:
4thnebula wrote:

I write this post on occasion when a manufacturer seems (IMHO and needs) to be missing a major feature in their camera. I am not sure why manufacturers keep omitting an articulating (or flip up) LCD. It seems there is not a photographing day when I need this feature. I would expect that a single camera (Nikon 1 J2 or Nikon 1 S1) would not have an articulating LCD for those who want the extra small camera. However, I would expect every system would have a model with an articulating LCD. The V2 would seem to me to be that model. This is a major reason why I never got into the Nikon 1 system.

This post also goes for the Sony RX's and Canon M's.

(Note: I am a Nikon DSLR, Canon DSLR and u43rds user)
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The advantage of the NEX range (I am a happy user of the 5N model) is focus peaking, and the excellent viewfinder, and the articulated display. For me an articulated viewfinder works just as well (my NEX-5N has both!). My D600 has neither, but I have Lilliput external TFT monitor that I occasionally use with my D600, should I need a movable display! No need for built-in!

I'd love a Nikon 1 camera with an articulated viewfinder, yes, sir! I mostly use long lenses where an articulating LCD is not needed, but an EVF that I can set at any angle I want would be perfect! For stills, or video, equally useful! That, and in camera body built-in anti-shake, are details I love.
 
jonikon said:
jonikon wrote:
jonikon said:
4thnebula wrote:

I write this post on occasion when a manufacturer seems (IMHO and needs) to be missing a major feature in their camera. I am not sure why manufacturers keep omitting an articulating (or flip up) LCD. It seems there is not a photographing day when I need this feature. I would expect that a single camera (Nikon 1 J2 or Nikon 1 S1) would not have an articulating LCD for those who want the extra small camera. However, I would expect every system would have a model with an articulating LCD. The V2 would seem to me to be that model. This is a major reason why I never got into the Nikon 1 system.

This post also goes for the Sony RX's and Canon M's.

(Note: I am a Nikon DSLR, Canon DSLR and u43rds user)
Click to expand...
I bought a Nikon d5100 for a back-up to my d7000 thinking I would use the articulating LCD for macro and maybe something else. Since then I have used the articulating LCD exactly three times. I own two Nikon V1's without an articulating screen and have never needed the feature even once. So although I understand some feel they need an articulating LCD, I don't need or want one because they add bulk, and/or reduce the size of the LCD and like all LCDs, are just about useless in bright sunlight.

There are plenty of other cameras out there with articulating LCD to keep folks like you happy though!

... Different strokes for different folks. :-|
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Jon,

I am in your group, evidently!

I think I've used the articulated LCD on my NEX maybe ten times, at the very most, and the articulated viewfinder thousands of times - I'd love an articulated EVF on my V camera, yes indeed!
 
I love the articulating LCD on my D5000, and would love to see it added to the V3 as well.

Though, to be completely honest, my main uses for it are:

1) To keep the LCD smudge and scratch free by having it turned toward the body. I use the viewfinder for 99% of my shots. And,

2) To flip down and check menu without having to bend over when I have it on the tripod (only so many flexes left in these knees . . . :~} )
 
razormac said:
razormac wrote:

I love the articulating LCD on my D5000, and would love to see it added to the V3 as well.

Though, to be completely honest, my main uses for it are:

1) To keep the LCD smudge and scratch free by having it turned toward the body. I use the viewfinder for 99% of my shots. And,

2) To flip down and check menu without having to bend over when I have it on the tripod (only so many flexes left in these knees . . . :~} )
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I take mostly ballet and soccer pictures and with a horde of moms and their iPhones stampeding for a picture I often perch my V1 on my monopod to get a high angle shot over their heads.

An articulating screen vs guessing would be really useful in that scenario...

I also do a lot of video where an articulating screen would be handy.
 
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