X100s: fill flash

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Hello to all

I read a lot of great comments about the excellent fill flash of the x100s.

How do I activate the flash in fill mode ? Is there any particular setting I need to activate, or do I just need to enable flash and that's all.

Regards from Belgium

YVES
 
Hoefie wrote:

Hello to all

I read a lot of great comments about the excellent fill flash of the x100s.

How do I activate the flash in fill mode ? Is there any particular setting I need to activate, or do I just need to enable flash and that's all.

Regards from Belgium

YVES
Read the top of this page from the DPR review of the X100, I expect the s works in a similar fashion:

 
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FWTOQA wrote:
Hoefie wrote:

Hello to all

I read a lot of great comments about the excellent fill flash of the x100s.

How do I activate the flash in fill mode ? Is there any particular setting I need to activate, or do I just need to enable flash and that's all.

Regards from Belgium

YVES
Read the top of this page from the DPR review of the X100, I expect the s works in a similar fashion:

We took the above test shot at ISO 400 with automatic ISO control turned off, but it's worth knowing that if you turn on the flash when Auto ISO is enabled, the camera will meter and set its exposure (including sensitivity) based purely on the ambient lighting, and without considering the flash, until it reaches a light level so low that it has to start dropping the shutter speed below the minimum set in the Auto ISO program to achieve correct exposure. Only at this point will it use the flash as the main light source, rather than simply as fill.




What does this mean? How do I achieve a FILL flash and not a FULL flash?
 
FWTOQA wrote:
Hoefie wrote:

Hello to all

I read a lot of great comments about the excellent fill flash of the x100s.

How do I activate the flash in fill mode ? Is there any particular setting I need to activate, or do I just need to enable flash and that's all.

Regards from Belgium

YVES
Read the top of this page from the DPR review of the X100, I expect the s works in a similar fashion:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/FujifilmX100/17
Thanks for the link.

From DPR review: "if you turn on the flash when Auto ISO is enabled, the camera will meter and set its exposure (including sensitivity) based purely on the ambient lighting, and without considering the flash, until it reaches a light level so low that it has to start dropping the shutter speed below the minimum set in the Auto ISO program to achieve correct exposure. Only at this point will it use the flash as the main light source, rather than simply as fill."



Can anyone confirm that this is also the same for the X100s.
 
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For fill in I operate in M mode with flash set on slow sync

yes it's not automatic

yes it needs some trials

BUT it gives the best results

I usually start with shutter speed min at 1/125 to avoid a ghost image (ex for dancers), the I adjust aperture according to the DOF I want

Is et slow sync for flash

I perform trials and adjust ISO till I get the balance ambient / flash lights I like

The good point here is that the leaf shutter allows high speed sync

For F2 it's advisable not to exceed 1/500 sec (see DPR review of the X100)

Cheers

Bob
 
Davidgilmour wrote:
FWTOQA wrote:
Hoefie wrote:

Hello to all

I read a lot of great comments about the excellent fill flash of the x100s.

How do I activate the flash in fill mode ? Is there any particular setting I need to activate, or do I just need to enable flash and that's all.

Regards from Belgium

YVES
Read the top of this page from the DPR review of the X100, I expect the s works in a similar fashion:

We took the above test shot at ISO 400 with automatic ISO control turned off, but it's worth knowing that if you turn on the flash when Auto ISO is enabled, the camera will meter and set its exposure (including sensitivity) based purely on the ambient lighting, and without considering the flash, until it reaches a light level so low that it has to start dropping the shutter speed below the minimum set in the Auto ISO program to achieve correct exposure. Only at this point will it use the flash as the main light source, rather than simply as fill.

What does this mean? How do I achieve a FILL flash and not a FULL flash?
I tend to read the page on DPR and follow its logic ! I set AutoISO on, min shutter 1/60s, MaxISO 3200, built-in flash ON and then I take a shot.

The camera exposes for ambient light only BUT adds FILL as a "pleasant afterthought" catch-light to the eye etc. It's almost as if the flash effect isn't there, but it's enough.

As long as the ambient light is suffient to support 1/60 and 3200 (or whatever min speed or Max ISO you've used) then it just works.
 
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Hoefie wrote:
FWTOQA wrote:
Hoefie wrote:

Hello to all

I read a lot of great comments about the excellent fill flash of the x100s.

How do I activate the flash in fill mode ? Is there any particular setting I need to activate, or do I just need to enable flash and that's all.

Regards from Belgium

YVES
Read the top of this page from the DPR review of the X100, I expect the s works in a similar fashion:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/FujifilmX100/17
Thanks for the link.

From DPR review: "if you turn on the flash when Auto ISO is enabled, the camera will meter and set its exposure (including sensitivity) based purely on the ambient lighting, and without considering the flash, until it reaches a light level so low that it has to start dropping the shutter speed below the minimum set in the Auto ISO program to achieve correct exposure. Only at this point will it use the flash as the main light source, rather than simply as fill."

Can anyone confirm that this is also the same for the X100s.
I presume you have the camera; why don't you experiment a little? Try auto, try manual, try lots things. It's better to see for yourself what YOU are happy with. For me the AutoISO works just fine, no trial, no fiddling but you mast disagree. Just try lots of settings until you are happy
 
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FWTOQA wrote:
Davidgilmour wrote:
FWTOQA wrote:
Hoefie wrote:

Hello to all

I read a lot of great comments about the excellent fill flash of the x100s.

How do I activate the flash in fill mode ? Is there any particular setting I need to activate, or do I just need to enable flash and that's all.

Regards from Belgium

YVES
Read the top of this page from the DPR review of the X100, I expect the s works in a similar fashion:

We took the above test shot at ISO 400 with automatic ISO control turned off, but it's worth knowing that if you turn on the flash when Auto ISO is enabled, the camera will meter and set its exposure (including sensitivity) based purely on the ambient lighting, and without considering the flash, until it reaches a light level so low that it has to start dropping the shutter speed below the minimum set in the Auto ISO program to achieve correct exposure. Only at this point will it use the flash as the main light source, rather than simply as fill.

What does this mean? How do I achieve a FILL flash and not a FULL flash?
I tend to read the page on DPR and follow its logic ! I set AutoISO on, min shutter 1/60s, MaxISO 3200, built-in flash ON and then I take a shot.

The camera exposes for ambient light only BUT adds FILL as a "pleasant afterthought" catch-light to the eye etc. It's almost as if the flash effect isn't there, but it's enough.

As long as the ambient light is suffient to support 1/60 and 3200 (or whatever min speed or Max ISO you've used) then it just works.
Ok. I always use auto iso, max 3200. Minimum ahutter speed is 1/30.

So when I take an indoor portrait my speed usually never falls below the 1/30 (only when it's too dark, then it can fall to 1/8 or so). In the usual case it is better to use the fill flash or is it a matter of taste? Does the fill flash add value, i.e. makes the subject pop out more?
 
Davidgilmour wrote:
FWTOQA wrote:
Davidgilmour wrote:
FWTOQA wrote:
Hoefie wrote:

Hello to all

I read a lot of great comments about the excellent fill flash of the x100s.

How do I activate the flash in fill mode ? Is there any particular setting I need to activate, or do I just need to enable flash and that's all.

Regards from Belgium

YVES
Read the top of this page from the DPR review of the X100, I expect the s works in a similar fashion:

We took the above test shot at ISO 400 with automatic ISO control turned off, but it's worth knowing that if you turn on the flash when Auto ISO is enabled, the camera will meter and set its exposure (including sensitivity) based purely on the ambient lighting, and without considering the flash, until it reaches a light level so low that it has to start dropping the shutter speed below the minimum set in the Auto ISO program to achieve correct exposure. Only at this point will it use the flash as the main light source, rather than simply as fill.

What does this mean? How do I achieve a FILL flash and not a FULL flash?
I tend to read the page on DPR and follow its logic ! I set AutoISO on, min shutter 1/60s, MaxISO 3200, built-in flash ON and then I take a shot.

The camera exposes for ambient light only BUT adds FILL as a "pleasant afterthought" catch-light to the eye etc. It's almost as if the flash effect isn't there, but it's enough.

As long as the ambient light is suffient to support 1/60 and 3200 (or whatever min speed or Max ISO you've used) then it just works.
Ok. I always use auto iso, max 3200. Minimum ahutter speed is 1/30.

So when I take an indoor portrait my speed usually never falls below the 1/30 (only when it's too dark, then it can fall to 1/8 or so). In the usual case it is better to use the fill flash or is it a matter of taste? Does the fill flash add value, i.e. makes the subject pop out more?
If you use Auto ISO then you already use the "easy" fill-flash capabilities of the camera. You could also use manual methods as well.

If you want to see the flash add more than just fill then easy way would be to leave it on asutoISO but alter your ISO Max to something smaller and min speed to a higher value. That way the camera will be forced to allow the flash to contribute more as the changed iso and speed won't be able to support the ambient alone, as per the DPR review article
 

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