Default camera settings

David Birkin · Nov 2, 1999

I downloaded the S10 PDF manual to read up about the camera prior to its release here in the UK. I noticed that when turning on the camera/changing modes it will revert to default settings. Since the super fine resolution is not a default setting would this mean selecting this every time i were to use the camera? Surely it must store such settings until they are changed by the user?-- http://www.onelist.com
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Roy · Nov 2, 1999

David:

David, I think that's only in Auto mode. I think you cannot change the resolution and/or size in Auto mode. In Manual mode and Image mode the settings are stored when turned off, and will remain the same when you power up the next time.

Roy

David Birkin said:
I downloaded the S10 PDF manual to read up about the camera prior to its
release here in the UK. I noticed that when turning on the
camera/changing modes it will revert to default settings. Since the
super fine resolution is not a default setting would this mean selecting
this every time i were to use the camera? Surely it must store such
settings until they are changed by the user?
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Eric Hickman · Nov 2, 1999

Just Curious- did you download the manual from the new canon shockwave site?

David Birkin said:
I downloaded the S10 PDF manual to read up about the camera prior to its
release here in the UK. I noticed that when turning on the
camera/changing modes it will revert to default settings. Since the
super fine resolution is not a default setting would this mean selecting
this every time i were to use the camera? Surely it must store such
settings until they are changed by the user?
--
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David Birkin · Nov 2, 1999

Eric Hickman said:
Just Curious- did you download the manual from the new canon shockwave site?

yes. why?

Eric Hickman · Nov 2, 1999

Sorry, the way I worded that made it sound like I was investigating something but really I just wanted to find out where I could download it myself.

David Birkin said:
Eric Hickman said:

Just Curious- did you download the manual from the new canon shockwave site?

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yes. why?

David Birkin · Nov 2, 1999

Eric Hickman said:
Sorry, the way I worded that made it sound like I was investigating
something but really I just wanted to find out where I could download it
myself.

having dl'ed the manual i have added 'bookmarks' using acrobat. you may have acopy of this modified file if you wish. contact me via email if you're interested

Chuck Westfall · Nov 2, 1999

Hi, Roy:

Once again, you're correct. Thanks for the post!

Best Regards,

Chuck Westfall
Manager/Technical Information Dept.
Camera Division/Canon U.S.A., Inc.

Roy said:
David, I think that's only in Auto mode. I think you cannot change the
resolution and/or size in Auto mode. In Manual mode and Image mode the
settings are stored when turned off, and will remain the same when you
power up the next time.

Roy

David Birkin said:

I downloaded the S10 PDF manual to read up about the camera prior to its
release here in the UK. I noticed that when turning on the
camera/changing modes it will revert to default settings. Since the
super fine resolution is not a default setting would this mean selecting
this every time i were to use the camera? Surely it must store such
settings until they are changed by the user?
--
http://www.onelist.com
[email protected]
[email protected]

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Frank W · Nov 2, 1999

Roy said:
David:

David, I think that's only in Auto mode. I think you cannot change the
resolution and/or size in Auto mode. In Manual mode and Image mode the

Roy or Chuck,

If resolution/size are not selectable in AUTO mode, what is the default
resolution and JPG setting when in auto?

Thanks Frank

Roy said:
settings are stored when turned off, and will remain the same when you
power up the next time.

Roy

ARt11902 · Nov 2, 1999

Well, since Chuck or ROy or busy at the moment, I'll
volunteer to answer that question for you Frank

In AUTO mode, resolution is set to large (1600x1200) and
compression is set to fine, which is the middle compression
setting so each file should be around 500-600k in size.

I wonder though, Chuck, why is the resolution and compression
settings locked in AUTO mode? Any reason behind that?

Cheers
Art

Frank said:
If resolution/size are not selectable in AUTO mode, what is the default
resolution and JPG setting when in auto?

Thanks Frank

Frank W · Nov 2, 1999

Art said:
In AUTO mode, resolution is set to large (1600x1200) and
compression is set to fine, which is the middle compression
setting so each file should be around 500-600k in size.

I wonder though, Chuck, why is the resolution and compression
settings locked in AUTO mode? Any reason behind that?

Cheers
Art

Frank said:

If resolution/size are not selectable in AUTO mode, what is the default
resolution and JPG setting when in auto?

Thanks Frank

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Roy · Nov 2, 1999

Art is right about the resolution and size. I may have a strange way to see things, but manual mode is more like auto mode but with options to me. In

manual mode you can just press the shutter release and let the camera does the work or you can adjust the flash, EV compensation, sharpness &
contrast, etc ... to suit your needs. It's nifty little camera!

Roy

Art said:
In AUTO mode, resolution is set to large (1600x1200) and
compression is set to fine, which is the middle compression
setting so each file should be around 500-600k in size.

I wonder though, Chuck, why is the resolution and compression
settings locked in AUTO mode? Any reason behind that?

Cheers
Art

Frank said:

If resolution/size are not selectable in AUTO mode, what is the default
resolution and JPG setting when in auto?

Thanks Frank

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Chuck Westfall · Nov 3, 1999

Hi, Frank:

The S10's default settings for resolution and compression in Auto mode are Large/Fine, in other words 1600 x 1200 pixels at Fine compression, which is approximately 9.6:1.

Best Regards--

Chuck Westfall

Manager/Tech Information Dept.

Camera Division/Canon U.S.A., Inc.

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Roy or Chuck,

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If resolution/size are not selectable in AUTO mode, what is the default

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resolution and JPG setting when in auto?

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Thanks Frank

Chuck Westfall · Nov 3, 1999

Hi, Art:

If you could change the resolution or compression, then it wouldn't really be Automatic.

Another way of looking at it is that the Auto mode is always safe for non-photographers who have no interest in learning how to change camera settings.

Best Regards--

Chuck Westfall

Manager/Tech Information Dept.

Camera Division/Canon U.S.A., Inc.

Art wrote:
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ARt11902 said:
I wonder though, Chuck, why is the resolution and compression

ARt11902 said:
settings locked in AUTO mode? Any reason behind that?

ARt11902 said:
Cheers

ARt11902 said:
Art

John Warner · Nov 3, 1999

Hi, Chuck:

The only problem I've had with the Auto mode has been indoor pictures. I'm not steady enough to hold the camera still long enough to avoid blurry pictures in the dimmer light, especially if I use the LCD to frame the picture. My solution to this problem has been to switch to manual mode and up the gain (ISO). Would it be possible to, say in a future firmware release, have Auto mode automatically increase the gain if a camera shake is detected? I'd rather have a little noise in a clear picture, than no noise in a blurry one. I think this idea would make Auto mode more failsafe.

Thanks,

John Warner

Chuck Westfall said:
If you could change the resolution or compression, then it wouldn't
really be Automatic.

Another way of looking at it is that the Auto mode is always safe for
non-photographers who have no interest in learning how to change camera
settings.

Best Regards--

Chuck Westfall
Manager/Tech Information Dept.
Camera Division/Canon U.S.A., Inc.

Art wrote:
(snip)

Member said:

I wonder though, Chuck, why is the resolution and compression
settings locked in AUTO mode? Any reason behind that?

Cheers
Art

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Frank W · Nov 3, 1999

John Warner said:
Hi, Chuck:

The only problem I've had with the Auto mode has been indoor pictures.
I'm not steady enough to hold the camera still long enough to avoid
blurry pictures in the dimmer light, especially if I use the LCD to frame
the picture. My solution to this problem has been to switch to manual
mode and up the gain (ISO). Would it be possible to, say in a future
firmware release, have Auto mode automatically increase the gain if a
camera shake is detected? I'd rather have a little noise in a clear

Camera can only warn you to avoid camera shake (low light),
it can't tell if you are going to steady the camera on something or
set on a tri-pod.

Member said:
picture, than no noise in a blurry one. I think this idea would make
Auto mode more failsafe.

Thanks,

John Warner

Chuck Westfall said:

If you could change the resolution or compression, then it wouldn't
really be Automatic.

Another way of looking at it is that the Auto mode is always safe for
non-photographers who have no interest in learning how to change camera
settings.

Best Regards--

Chuck Westfall
Manager/Tech Information Dept.
Camera Division/Canon U.S.A., Inc.

Art wrote:
(snip)

Member said:

I wonder though, Chuck, why is the resolution and compression
settings locked in AUTO mode? Any reason behind that?

Cheers
Art

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John Warner · Nov 3, 1999

Thanks, Frank. I didn't understand how the camera shake was determined, but I think it still might be a good idea. I'm more likely to use the manual mode and play with the settings if I'm going to take the time to set up a tripod. I like Auto mode for when I just want to pull out the camera and shoot quickly, trusting to the camera to take a good picture. Wouldn't proper ISO selection determined from current lighting conditions increase my chances of getting a better picture?

Thanks,

John Warner

frank said:
John Warner said:

Hi, Chuck:

The only problem I've had with the Auto mode has been indoor pictures.
I'm not steady enough to hold the camera still long enough to avoid
blurry pictures in the dimmer light, especially if I use the LCD to frame
the picture. My solution to this problem has been to switch to manual
mode and up the gain (ISO). Would it be possible to, say in a future
firmware release, have Auto mode automatically increase the gain if a
camera shake is detected? I'd rather have a little noise in a clear

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Camera can only warn you to avoid camera shake (low light),
it can't tell if you are going to steady the camera on something or
set on a tri-pod.

Chuck Westfall · Nov 3, 1999

Hi, John:

Camera shake is usually a non-issue in Auto mode because the flash fires automatically when the light level falls low enough that the shutter speed would be slower than 1/focal length, the usual limit for hand-held snapshots.

Best Regards--

Chuck Westfall

Manager/Tech Information Dept.

Camera Division/Canon U.S.A., Inc.

John Warner said:
Hi, Chuck:

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The only problem I've had with the Auto mode has been indoor pictures.

Member said:
I'm not steady enough to hold the camera still long enough to avoid

Member said:
blurry pictures in the dimmer light, especially if I use the LCD to frame

Member said:
the picture. My solution to this problem has been to switch to manual

Member said:
mode and up the gain (ISO). Would it be possible to, say in a future

Member said:
firmware release, have Auto mode automatically increase the gain if a

Member said:
camera shake is detected? I'd rather have a little noise in a clear

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picture, than no noise in a blurry one. I think this idea would make

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Auto mode more failsafe.

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Thanks,

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John Warner

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Hi, Art:

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Chuck Westfall · Nov 3, 1999

John Warner wrote:
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Member said:
Wouldn't proper ISO selection determined from current lighting conditions

Member said:
increase my chances of getting a better picture?

Member said:
Thanks,

Member said:
John Warner

Hi, John:

Zero gain setting with auto flash in low light gives you a better chance at correct exposure with minimum noise, assuming your subject is within range of the flash. This is the default in Auto mode with the S10.

When the flash is turned off (such as is possible in Manual mode), using a higher gain setting will increase noise but usually give you a better image compared to the zero gain setting.

Hope this helps!

Best Regards--

Chuck Westfall

Manager/Tech Information Dept.

Camera Division/Canon U.S.A., Inc.

Frank W · Nov 3, 1999

Chuck Westfall said:
Hi, John:

Camera shake is usually a non-issue in Auto mode because the flash fires

Member said:
automatically when the light level falls low enough that the shutter
speed would be slower than 1/focal length, the usual limit for hand-held
snapshots.

Best Regards--

Chuck Westfall

Manager/Tech Information Dept.

Camera Division/Canon U.S.A., Inc.

I guess auto really means AUTO ..... I was assuming John
had turned flash off when seeing the warning light in
auto mode and low light..... See what happens when
you "ass u me" ..... where the heck are these Chuck?
Still waiting to get my hands on one when I find in stock.

Ike · Nov 3, 1999

I agree with Chuck. Auto is auto and that's a good a good feature.

If you want to play with settings, use manual. That's what it's there for.

--Ike

Chuck Westfall said:
Hi, Art:

If you could change the resolution or compression, then it wouldn't

Member said:
really be Automatic.

Another way of looking at it is that the Auto mode is always safe for

Member said:
non-photographers who have no interest in learning how to change camera
settings.

Best Regards--

Chuck Westfall

Manager/Tech Information Dept.

Camera Division/Canon U.S.A., Inc.
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Member said:
I wonder though, Chuck, why is the resolution and compression

settings locked in AUTO mode? Any reason behind that?

Cheers

Art

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