Photo Rumors has published some GRD V specs!

Archiver wrote:

The Nikon A seems to have everything I want in a pocketable 28mm compact except for a LCD display that can be turned off! And given Ricoh's disappointingly mediocre video performance in all models, the new GR is unlikely to have the video quality I'd like in a compact. I'm still likely to go with the Ricoh, though, as I love the way the GRD and GXR handle, and all the functions and customizability. At least Ricoh understand the need for discretion in shooting!
30 fps 1920HD H.264 with stereo mics. About time.

One thing about the Coolpix and Nikon 1 cameras I've tried is the shot review time can't be changed from the default 1 second. So it's worthless - too short to actually review (it's already blinking off as I go to look at it) and so pointlessly too long to even bother having it, but as you say, you can't turn it off completely so it's always there, a 1 sec image flashing after every shot serving no useful purpose.
 
anthony mazzeri wrote:
Archiver wrote:

The Nikon A seems to have everything I want in a pocketable 28mm compact except for a LCD display that can be turned off! And given Ricoh's disappointingly mediocre video performance in all models, the new GR is unlikely to have the video quality I'd like in a compact. I'm still likely to go with the Ricoh, though, as I love the way the GRD and GXR handle, and all the functions and customizability. At least Ricoh understand the need for discretion in shooting!
30 fps 1920HD H.264 with stereo mics. About time.

One thing about the Coolpix and Nikon 1 cameras I've tried is the shot review time can't be changed from the default 1 second. So it's worthless - too short to actually review (it's already blinking off as I go to look at it) and so pointlessly too long to even bother having it, but as you say, you can't turn it off completely so it's always there, a 1 sec image flashing after every shot serving no useful purpose.
Archiver:

I think they might have realized that if you are going to incorporate video in your cameras you should do it properly instead of a poor resolution solution that almost nobody would have use for.

I'd rather have NO video mode instead of "emergency video mode".

By the looks of it Ricoh has now stepped up to the plate to provide something useful in the video department. I welcome that.

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aleksanderpolo wrote:

I hope they are pricing it to attract buyers who are deciding between Nikon A and GR, not pricing it to reduce demand...

Fixed lens camera is not for me, but I sure hope this will lead to GXR-M successor in the future (how about a GR-M non-modular camera with slimmer body than GXR?) ;)
I did not mean that Ricoh only uses this technique - soak the early adopter who is keen to be the first on the block - every camera company is known to do this to a greater or lesser degree. The opening price usually settles down to a "street price" soon enough.
 
The price of the Ricoh has been rumoured at $800.00 US so it does put it in the upper range of the coolpix A (1100.00) and the Sony RX100 (699.00) two of it's big competitors and marketing giants.
 
At $800, that's $300, or more than 25% less than the Nikon A. Considerable savings for a camera that is likely to be just as good in image quality and quite possibly even better in operational performance. And I bet it will beat the $2000 Leica X2 in all aspects of performance, with 36mm focal length being the only drawcard.

One wonders if the $800 retail price was a decision made in response to the Nikon A. Certainly, the specs seem close enough and only those who already know Ricoh would buy the GR for its ergonomics, methinks. $800 makes it distinctly attractive without cheapening the product.
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I agree. $800 is a pretty sensible price if the rumor is true. They need to grab market share from those who are still deciding between a Ricoh, Nikon, or Fuji, rather than squeezing from those who have already decided to get a Ricoh. Hopefully they will do the sensible thing and gain momentum.
 
Documensony wrote:
Tom Caldwell wrote:

Had to kick it along a bit, this content can be no worse.
Never forget to maintain your statstics, Tom, never ever!
Made the top of the tree for a while with your help, thanks .... Pity about our content .... Gone again now, the experts have taken over - try the "Sunday Bird, volume 8 ..."
 
Archiver wrote:

At $800, that's $300, or more than 25% less than the Nikon A. Considerable savings for a camera that is likely to be just as good in image quality and quite possibly even better in operational performance. And I bet it will beat the $2000 Leica X2 in all aspects of performance, with 36mm focal length being the only drawcard.

One wonders if the $800 retail price was a decision made in response to the Nikon A. Certainly, the specs seem close enough and only those who already know Ricoh would buy the GR for its ergonomics, methinks. $800 makes it distinctly attractive without cheapening the product.
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Archiver - Loving Every Image Captured Always
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Possible?

Ricoh buys Pentax and (perhaps) revitalises the dslr section, talks about being a bigger corporation than Nikon ...

Nikon makes a GR clone and releases it before Ricoh fronts with their version ...

War?

On the other hand there are a slew of similar small format big(ger) sensor cameras coming up to the bench ...

Camera companies don't declare war on one another - it is called marketing to a price point ....

Maybe Pentax-Rioch really does want more market share? .... and me thinking that turning out a few hundred thousand cameras a year without much marketing expense was a nice safe little niche that kept everyone happy.

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Tom Caldwell wrote:
Archiver wrote:

At $800, that's $300, or more than 25% less than the Nikon A. Considerable savings for a camera that is likely to be just as good in image quality and quite possibly even better in operational performance. And I bet it will beat the $2000 Leica X2 in all aspects of performance, with 36mm focal length being the only drawcard.

One wonders if the $800 retail price was a decision made in response to the Nikon A. Certainly, the specs seem close enough and only those who already know Ricoh would buy the GR for its ergonomics, methinks. $800 makes it distinctly attractive without cheapening the product.
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Archiver - Loving Every Image Captured Always
http://www.flickr.com/photos/archiver/
Possible?

Ricoh buys Pentax and (perhaps) revitalises the dslr section, talks about being a bigger corporation than Nikon ...

Nikon makes a GR clone and releases it before Ricoh fronts with their version ...

War?

On the other hand there are a slew of similar small format big(ger) sensor cameras coming up to the bench ...

Camera companies don't declare war on one another - it is called marketing to a price point ....

Maybe Pentax-Rioch really does want more market share? .... and me thinking that turning out a few hundred thousand cameras a year without much marketing expense was a nice safe little niche that kept everyone happy.
 
Tom Caldwell wrote:
Archiver wrote:

At $800, that's $300, or more than 25% less than the Nikon A. Considerable savings for a camera that is likely to be just as good in image quality and quite possibly even better in operational performance. And I bet it will beat the $2000 Leica X2 in all aspects of performance, with 36mm focal length being the only drawcard.

One wonders if the $800 retail price was a decision made in response to the Nikon A. Certainly, the specs seem close enough and only those who already know Ricoh would buy the GR for its ergonomics, methinks. $800 makes it distinctly attractive without cheapening the product.
--
Archiver - Loving Every Image Captured Always
http://www.flickr.com/photos/archiver/
Possible?

Ricoh buys Pentax and (perhaps) revitalises the dslr section, talks about being a bigger corporation than Nikon ...

Nikon makes a GR clone and releases it before Ricoh fronts with their version ...

War?

On the other hand there are a slew of similar small format big(ger) sensor cameras coming up to the bench ...

Camera companies don't declare war on one another - it is called marketing to a price point ....


No any war and real competition between Japanese photo companies.
 
Tom Caldwell wrote:
Possible?

Ricoh buys Pentax and (perhaps) revitalises the dslr section, talks about being a bigger corporation than Nikon ...

Nikon makes a GR clone and releases it before Ricoh fronts with their version ...

War?

On the other hand there are a slew of similar small format big(ger) sensor cameras coming up to the bench ...
Because Nikon knows that Ricoh is readying for an offensive and a big marketing push of newly acquired assets.
Which is not a small concern for them, considering that all Japanese imaging companies know what Pentax stands for, what is heritage behind it, what is Pentax capable of when they set their minds and have a proper support. However, so far they didn't bother with Pentax because everyone knew it was too small to make any considerable impact on their sales. They also did not bother with Ricoh for that same reason. But Pentax and Ricoh together … now, that's a different story altogether.
Nikon knows all too well that Ricoh's push will be widespread: redefining a DSLR range most importantly, lenses, flashes, etc. to which they already have an answer. But they are getting ready for other market niches too, including large sensor pocket cams, not allowing Ricoh to gain any sudden or big advantage.
Add to that that Ricoh is a bigger company than Nikon. If you saw Nikon ads everywhere, and you can see them indeed, you can multiply that by two to get an idea what Ricoh can do with Pentax assets in hands. If Ricoh wants to seize the market, Nikon is first to suffer, and they simply want to be ready for it.
 
Zvonimir Tosic wrote:
Tom Caldwell wrote:
Possible?

Ricoh buys Pentax and (perhaps) revitalises the dslr section, talks about being a bigger corporation than Nikon ...

Nikon makes a GR clone and releases it before Ricoh fronts with their version ...

War?

On the other hand there are a slew of similar small format big(ger) sensor cameras coming up to the bench ...
Because Nikon knows that Ricoh is readying for an offensive and a big marketing push of newly acquired assets.
Which is not a small concern for them, considering that all Japanese imaging companies know what Pentax stands for, what is heritage behind it, what is Pentax capable of when they set their minds and have a proper support. However, so far they didn't bother with Pentax because everyone knew it was too small to make any considerable impact on their sales. They also did not bother with Ricoh for that same reason. But Pentax and Ricoh together … now, that's a different story altogether.
Nikon knows all too well that Ricoh's push will be widespread: redefining a DSLR range most importantly, lenses, flashes, etc. to which they already have an answer. But they are getting ready for other market niches too, including large sensor pocket cams, not allowing Ricoh to gain any sudden or big advantage.
Add to that that Ricoh is a bigger company than Nikon. If you saw Nikon ads everywhere, and you can see them indeed, you can multiply that by two to get an idea what Ricoh can do with Pentax assets in hands. If Ricoh wants to seize the market, Nikon is first to suffer, and they simply want to be ready for it.
 
ogl wrote:
Tom Caldwell wrote:
Archiver wrote:

At $800, that's $300, or more than 25% less than the Nikon A. Considerable savings for a camera that is likely to be just as good in image quality and quite possibly even better in operational performance. And I bet it will beat the $2000 Leica X2 in all aspects of performance, with 36mm focal length being the only drawcard.

One wonders if the $800 retail price was a decision made in response to the Nikon A. Certainly, the specs seem close enough and only those who already know Ricoh would buy the GR for its ergonomics, methinks. $800 makes it distinctly attractive without cheapening the product.
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Archiver - Loving Every Image Captured Always
http://www.flickr.com/photos/archiver/
Possible?

Ricoh buys Pentax and (perhaps) revitalises the dslr section, talks about being a bigger corporation than Nikon ...

Nikon makes a GR clone and releases it before Ricoh fronts with their version ...

War?

On the other hand there are a slew of similar small format big(ger) sensor cameras coming up to the bench ...

Camera companies don't declare war on one another - it is called marketing to a price point ....
No any war and real competition between Japanese photo companies.

You don't think Nikon and Cannon are at war? They are at each others throats for market share.
 
Tom Caldwell wrote:
Archiver wrote:

At $800, that's $300, or more than 25% less than the Nikon A. Considerable savings for a camera that is likely to be just as good in image quality and quite possibly even better in operational performance. And I bet it will beat the $2000 Leica X2 in all aspects of performance, with 36mm focal length being the only drawcard.

One wonders if the $800 retail price was a decision made in response to the Nikon A. Certainly, the specs seem close enough and only those who already know Ricoh would buy the GR for its ergonomics, methinks. $800 makes it distinctly attractive without cheapening the product.
--
Archiver - Loving Every Image Captured Always
http://www.flickr.com/photos/archiver/
Possible?

Ricoh buys Pentax and (perhaps) revitalises the dslr section, talks about being a bigger corporation than Nikon ...

Nikon makes a GR clone and releases it before Ricoh fronts with their version ...

War?

On the other hand there are a slew of similar small format big(ger) sensor cameras coming up to the bench ...

Camera companies don't declare war on one another - it is called marketing to a price point ....

Maybe Pentax-Rioch really does want more market share? .... and me thinking that turning out a few hundred thousand cameras a year without much marketing expense was a nice safe little niche that kept everyone happy.
 

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