Need some opinions on these images... RX100

Momo13Drums

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I recently got an RX100 and I'm definitely an amateur so bear with me. In this first shot, is the rx100. I keep having this "issue" (is it an issue?) that the edges glow on things. It mostly happens shooting macro and when the light is behind the subject or top-down from behind. Like I said, I don't know much about photography. Is this normal?

The first shot is the RX100. The second shot is my old Sony W80. Obviously the W80 image quality isn't nearly as good, but I am able to focus a lot closer to the subject than on the RX100. Normal?

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And now the W80....

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Now... I've gotten some decent shots out of the RX100 below.

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So obviously I'm not getting glowing edges on THESE pictures. It seems just when its macro and the light source is behind+above.



And then I can still get a picture like this out of my W80....

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... because I can apparently focus closer to the subject than the RX100.





So what do you guys think? Is all this normal for my RX100?
 
seems ok to me. What settings are you using on cam?

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took this recently in a restaurant in paris.

i know the rx100 is not renowned as being a macro camera :-)
 
You can use a diopter with your RX100 and get the up close photos you like, at the image quality of the RX100 sensor..

Here's one with a Hoya +2 diopter on the Rx100

- Alex

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This is just like your recent post with the exact same question. Momo, there is nothing wrong with these images. There does not appear to be anything wrong with your camera.

You have three things happening with these images. First, several of them are strongly back lit. Try any camera in this situation and when you have strong light like this behind your subject, yes you will get an effect of the edges of the subject "glowing" as you call it. This is very normal and not all specific to your camera or the RX100 in general. This will happen with any camera, and especially so when the aperture is wide open. In fact, using strong back lighting to get this "glowing" effect is a common technique.

Second, you are shooting all of these at F1.8. This is the widest aperture of the camera and also the aperture that yields you the shallowest depth of field in your image, which means only a very small portion of your frame is going to be in sharp focus. Without getting too detailed and to keep it simple, the only portion of the image that is going to be in focus is that which is parallel to the lens. Anything else at even the slightest of angles simply will not be in focus at this wide of an aperture. This is not only normal, this is one of the most desirable characteristics of a wide aperture; to be able blur the background to really visually separate the subject from it. Or in the case of your small figures, to even blur the edges of the figures.

The portion of the image that is not in focus will indeed appear to be "soft" and out of focus, and as you call it, glowing. This is normal for any camera shot at a wide aperture like this. I forget the model you used in you last cat shot, but that was shot at F2.8. Try setting the aperture of the RX100 to F2.8 and I think you will be amazed at how much more of your frame is in focus at F2.8 versus F1.8. If you don't like this effect, simply shoot at a higher apertures until you get the sharpness you are expecting or hoping for.

Third, shooting at 28mm or the widest angle of the lens is the focal length that is the least sharp at the edges of the frame. The closer your subject is to the edge of the frame, the more this (very minor) lack of sharpness at the frame edges will become evident.

As I explained in one of my replies to your previous post on this topic, as you are still learning about the technical aspect here and that is totally cool, the easiest way for you to see the difference between aperture settings is put the camera in P or Program Mode and turn the front control ring. This will activate the Program Shift capability of the camera and as you turn the control ring it will cycle through a variety of Aperture and Shutter Speed combinations that will yield the same exposure. I use exposure loosely here as there is much more to it than these two parameters. You can do the same thing in Aperture priority mode as well.

All of the samples that you have posted here are essentially indoor close up shots with quite less than ideal lighting conditions. The camera does perform pretty well in these less than ideal conditions, but that said we have to be reasonable with our expectations in terms what such a tiny (and relatively inexpensive) camera is capable of. The RX100 is a very fine camera indeed, but has its technical limits, as all cameras do.

Try the camera outside on a variety of shots beyond close up shots and you will likely find your images will be much improved as the light will be so much better. than in your home. If you want to shoot in Auto or in the scene modes since you are still learning, do it. Try some close ups, portraits and landscape shots. Shoot at different apertures. The point is, you can't shoot everything at F1.8 and expect the edges of things to be razor sharp. That won't happen on the RX100 or any camera for that matter.

Your images look just fine Momo. There does not appear to be anything wrong with your camera. Take it outside and experience what this little gem can do. That is a whole lot more fun than sitting at the computer, zooming into 100% to pixel peep and over analyze your images taken in poor light and searching for minor imperfections that ultimately you will find. At the end of the day, we buy these things to have fun with them right? :-)

Schaf
 
As with most cameras , sharp Macro shots need a smaller aperture to keep the focused area looking pin sharp.

My Fuji X100 needs F8 to achieve anything useful in macro mode ( unless you like the soft look of course ). For me Macros are best shot in A mode.
 
To get close to your subject you have to shoot at the wide end and stop down to something like F2.8. If you zoom in the minimum focus distance increases. But macro shots isn't the strongest point of the RX100.
 
That's right, wide open to get close. I tend to avoid macro with the Rx100. If I want to do macro I get out my HX20V, it can focus at 1cm from the subject wide open. Pretty amazing.
 
Didn't you just start a thread exactly like this?? You got great info on that thread and looking at the exif data you didn't heed any of the advice given to you.
 
superstar905 wrote:

Didn't you just start a thread exactly like this?? You got great info on that thread and looking at the exif data you didn't heed any of the advice given to you.
Huh? Maybe you are referring to the original poster?
 
superstar905 wrote:

Didn't you just start a thread exactly like this?? You got great info on that thread and looking at the exif data you didn't heed any of the advice given to you.
Sorry if my initial post was confusing to anyone. First of all, I just took the pictures in auto mode for the sake of the posting. I did start a thread similar to this, but in my first thread I thought something was wrong with my camera since I am a super-amateur and didn't understand any of this.

The advice given was great, and I might have worded this post wrong but I was wondering if the "glowing" was normal for ANY camera (not just RX100) when the light source is coming from behind and/or above the subject? Because that seems to be when I can replicate it. When the light is on the side of the subject, front, etc... it does not happen.

Sorry if that was confusing. I know my camera is fine after my first post; that's why I said obviously I'm getting some good pictures out of it, it just seems like the glowing comes from that type of lighting, so I was trying to ask if that's normal for any camera.

But obviously, per Schafs post (thanks again for all the great info!) it's not just the light source being behind, but more so the aperature since the focus point is so small in f1.8. I was just curious if it had anything to do with the light itself.
 
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OMG...I just about fell on the floor laughing!!!!!

It IS a great camera Momo. Have some fun with it. :-)

Schaf
 
nofumble wrote:
Momo13Drums wrote:

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So what do you guys think? Is all this normal for my RX100?
I think it is a really smart camera. It knows exactly where to focus. LOL.

Keep it.
LOL! Yeah, I love it so far. I'm learning a lot, but I still have a lot more to learn :)

Our weather here has been terrible (rain/cold/snow) so I haven't been able to really take the camera outside and photograph much, so I've just been grabbing whatever I can inside!
 
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Sorry, no feedback except to say that I love your Pitbull. :) They are loving, loyal, and playful dogs that have unfortunately gotten a very undeserved bad reputation due to unscrupulous owners.

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"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." ~ Immanual Kant
 
B1ackhat wrote:
Momo13Drums wrote:

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Sorry, no feedback except to say that I love your Pitbull. :) They are loving, loyal, and playful dogs that have unfortunately gotten a very undeserved bad reputation due to unscrupulous owners.

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"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." ~ Immanual Kant
Thank you! But, he is actually a good friends dog that I occasionally take care of. He was rescued from a bad situation and after a lot of training and therapy he is actually now a therapy dog himself. I've never met a nicer dog. It really is all about how you treat them :)
 

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