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HS50EXR and F900EXR reviews, continued ...

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Kim Letkeman said:
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Wellington100 wrote:

Hi Kim, based on all of your tests of the HS50, the outcome for the F900 looks very good. The only question is whether the lens is sharp or suffers from de-centering issues like so many cameras did from the F500 onwards.
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Yeah, I have not done much with the cam at wide angle yet ... been waiting for the weekend to get it out into the woods with the 50. Should be fun if the weather breaks again.
Kim Letkeman said:
If the F900 lens is good, then this camera looks like it will be a winner. Am I right in thinking that WiFi and or GPS are a thing of the past now in the F series and does it matter?
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WiFi is able to transfer to your phone directly (the camera becomes a hot spot) and it is able to take the GPS coordinates from your phone, so they have both covered now. It;s a bit clunky, but I plan to do a video review showing how that works.
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Assuming the lens is good, I feel that the 4 degree angle of view of the F900 at full zoom is not all that different from the 2 degree angle of view of the HS50 for composing to justify the HS50 over the F900. I easily live without the convenience of an EVF for the sake of pocketability.
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Well, double the reach is still pretty slick :-)

But I agree ...

The EVF is useful because of the reach, but it is not all that nice once you've used a mirrorless from Panasonic for example.

Pocketability is really useful, and is probably worth the reach sacrifice.

The F900EXR will probably be better at telephoto macro ... needs some testing. Super macro is a joke because of the issue with letting light in. But attaching an achromat again makes the HS interesting ... I wish I could keep it through spring into Peony season :-(
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That F900 does look good. I recently discovered a simple technique using super macro with the F300. If you stick one finger an inch or 2 in front of the flash and shoot with the flash on, you can get a well lit and exposed Super Macro. I picked a bunch of grapes from the vine and these bad boys were sitting on them, so I took a shot indoors at night and it came out badly. Then I switched on the flash, put my forefinger an inch or two in front of it of it and took 3 shots. All worked but this one was the best. You might want to try this out for yourself. For all I know, two fingers will be better than one, but I never thought to try it at the time :-)











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Kim when you find out, please let us know what the macro sweet spot for the F900 is, I've always loved compact bodies for macro shooting!
 
alexisgreat said:
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Kim when you find out, please let us know what the macro sweet spot for the F900 is, I've always loved compact bodies for macro shooting!
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For me, the sweet spot is always the macro performance at full zoom. I have always held that full zoom macro shooting gives by far the best backgrounds ...

I don't plan to go through the range for each camera to find the highest magnification. It is not a good use of my very limited time.

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http://kimletkeman.blogspot.ca/2013/04/hs50exr-and-f900exr-review-part-13-bad.html

I screwed up the HS50's settings, but it tirned out to put in a virtuoso performance anyway ... samples to whet your appetite ...

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wow this is wonderful! I saw you did the NR noise bracketing test with both cameras too :) Kim has the weather cleared for that 30 sec long exposure starry night test?

BTW I dont know if you've tried to find the macro sweet spot yet, but I did some extensive testing with the HS20 and found that its spot is 5.0x zoom (using the LCD) at 1.5 inches focal distance, resulting in an image 38mm wide therefore a 1:6 macro ratio- just shy of my Oly C-7070 1:4 macro ratio (28mm image width.) That makes it 5mm less than Fuji's super macro!

note: true digital macros are defined (as per wiki) as having a 24mm height (32mm width for 4:3 sensors); as per that rule, even HS series super macros fall short.

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That squirrel shot is superb. The reflection in his eye reminds me of the lunar reflection in Armstrong/Aldrin's helmets! Maybe it's the black and white. LOL
 
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That squirrel shot is superb. The reflection in his eye reminds me of the lunar reflection in Armstrong/Aldrin's helmets! Maybe it's the black and white. LOL
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You are right ... I had not noticed that. Impressive lateral observation!
 
I was wondering regarding the F900EXR as a present to my parents, but there were few useful reviews.

Yours is on point as usually and for me on time too. Thanks!

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Kim Letkeman said:
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http://kimletkeman.blogspot.ca/2013/04/hs50exr-and-f900exr-review-part-13-bad.html

I screwed up the HS50's settings, but it turned out to put in a virtuoso performance anyway ...
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Yes, I guess that is the best you can do with sepia settings.

I hate sepia even more than B&W!

You know, I am gonna miss EXR when it's gone. Don't think the X-Trans sensor is really a good tradeoff - I would rather have more resolution at low ISO than low noise at high ISO, because high ISO is generally unnecessary.
 
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Yanko Kitanov wrote:

I was wondering regarding the F900EXR as a present to my parents, but there were few useful reviews. Yours is on point as usually and for me on time too. Thanks!
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As long as you pre-set it (to KimL's settings) I think these recent F series cameras are quite something.

On a recent trip, I compared my F750 shots to what came out of an EP-1 with 12-50 lens. The M.Zuiko is definitely sharper in the corners at wide angle, but oddly enough, not in the center. Also the EP-1 had to shoot a lot at very high ISO to make up for the slow lens, so images had almost as much noise as F750 images. As a bonus, the F750 delivered some nice long telephoto shots:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51197770

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51247829
 
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You know, I am gonna miss EXR when it's gone. Don't think the X-Trans sensor is really a good tradeoff - I would rather have more resolution at low ISO than low noise at high ISO, because high ISO is generally unnecessary.
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In more northerly parts of Britain, there's often no choice.

The x-trans sensor seems very useful indeed -- just wish it (or at least a mini-version) was on a superzoom. And is its resolution significantly inferior anyway?

(trying with extreme difficulty to decide between buying a Fuji HS50 or Panasonic FZ200 at the moment :-( ... much though I like them, my S6500 is really only good for 200asa, and FZ20 best not above a mere 100asa)
 
norland said:
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(trying with extreme difficulty to decide between buying a Fuji HS50 or Panasonic FZ200 at the moment :-( ... much though I like them, my S6500 is really only good for 200asa, and FZ20 best not above a mere 100asa)
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Man, what a choice. Those are the two, for sure, but which? I've seen more images I like from the FZ, but the trade-offs are agonizing. And some of my favorite FZ200 images are from a guy who's making a lot of nice comments about HS50 images. Urgh.....
 
Tim39 said:
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norland wrote:
Tim39 said:
(trying with extreme difficulty to decide between buying a Fuji HS50 or Panasonic FZ200 at the moment :-( ... much though I like them, my S6500 is really only good for 200asa, and FZ20 best not above a mere 100asa)
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Man, what a choice. Those are the two, for sure, but which? I've seen more images I like from the FZ, but the trade-offs are agonizing. And some of my favorite FZ200 images are from a guy who's making a lot of nice comments about HS50 images. Urgh.....
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add Canon HS50 to the mix and eventually the Nikon P520
 
alexisgreat said:
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add Canon HSSX50 to the mix and eventually the Nikon P520


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Quack... quack!

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alexisgreat said:
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add Canon HS50 to the mix and
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The results posted by HS50 users are very impressive, and it's available quite a lot cheaper than its Panasonic and Fuji competitors ... but for me, the poor resolution viewfinder would count far too heavily against it.

Battery duration in that Canon also seems low, and I've had quite enough of that problem with the FZ20 (such a contrast to my wife's Fuji F30 -- years after getting it, am still bemused at just how good that little camera is).
 
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