An Interview with Pentax/Ricoh Executive Vice President Jim Malcolm

Dale108 wrote:

http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/features/an-interview-with-pentax-evp-jim-malcolm

A good interview. Surprised he is somewhat dismissive of FF demands of Pentax. Does this suggest no new FF cams in the pipeline? Hard to know.
I think the reaction on an excerpt from an interview is slightly overdramatic, because Mr Malcolm surely didn't clearly deny the development of an 135 format (FF) digital camera.

But as an old proverb goes, "Diplomacy is thinking twice before saying nothing", in this case, Mr Malcolm hasn't phrased his response quite well, didn't think thoroughly, and it felt like a salt on a sore wound of many long-time Pentaxians.

For 12+ years brand loyal were expecting Pentax to develop a digital FF because of its clear advantages in the native K-mount, and the fact that Pentax once was the leading brand in producing 135 format SLR cameras.

The number of such Pentaxians is now rapidly declining, buying into Nikon and Canon, and their decision has nothing to do with lack of brand loyalty. As a marketing professional, I believe that Mr Malcolm should be highly aware that modern marketing definition of brand loyalty describes it as *a loyalty of the brand for its users*, not vice versa.

User loyalty is earned, not given. A loyal brand should cater for its users, keep them excited and enthusiastic.

--
Zvonimir Tosic
“A portrait is not made in the camera, but on either side of it.”
— Edward Steichen
 
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rwl408 wrote:

Excellent price and pictures. Yes, people ask for $300+ for a used one on eBay or CL. I know that because I am trying to get a couple of EF lenses first and then a 5D to ease my crave for FF. :) Back in 2007 while I was shooting with DL, which now is my IR camera, I got a chance to play with a 5D and 70-300mm for one afternoon (Canon's photography in the park event) and was mesmerized.
RW, thanks for your comments. Much appreciated.

Mesmerized is an excellent world to describe what I felt the first time I upload some images from the 5D into the computer. And it really continues to amaze me that this little gem can help to produce so many beautiful images after so many years if being introduced to the market.

This is a little off topic and I really don`t want to derail this interesting thread. Just to provide some information for you.

I found this in the dpreview Canon thread. You may want to look into it:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3466468

Atoche Regular Member • Posts: 200 58 min ago,

In reply to Tepacca

Re: Budget full frame Canon

used 5DC - $400-500 for a good one

refurb 70-200 F4 L - $600

refurb 17-40L - $550

$1500 out the door to figure out if FF is right for you!
 
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By speaking to CURRENT Pentax enthusiasts, he's missing the ones who have already jumped ship. Many of them were highly influential in photographic communities and their loss is disproportionate to their numbers. I may never have any interest in FF myself, but I can trace one specific Pentax lens purchase to the example of one forum member who now shoots Nikon. When your brand has no retail presence and relies on word of mouth it is especially damaging to lose people like that.
 
If a FF sensor has the same pixel density as an APS-C sensor, you can get the exact same results by simply cropping the FF picture to the APS-C coverage after you've taken it. You lose some card/disk space but that seems like a decent tradeoff for the added flexibility.
 
Mark Ransom wrote:

By speaking to CURRENT Pentax enthusiasts, he's missing the ones who have already jumped ship.
He said he also wants to talk with them.

Alex
 
Sorry, I missed that part - it came after the Q&A session and I kind of skimmed it. I wonder how he intends to reach those people?
 
Dale108 wrote:

If so, that will alienate many of the users. While I don't need a FF, Pentax needs a solid offering to offer an upgrade path and to stop the bleeding of dedicated users to C and N. Even if they don't make money at it, it could increase the Brand Influence and potentially attract new users.

Dale
 
What I don't get is why is there anyone still with Pentax who wants a FF???

It's 2013 and Canon 5D came out in 2005, 8 years was not enough for you to switch?

To me it makes total sense, FF is a losing game in terms of $, it can support one perhaps two players and the field is totally full. It needs AF that Pentax cannot deliver, nor WW service support and other than a FF K1000 there is nothing Pentax could offer, plus due to sensor cost that K1000 could not be exactly cheap either. Also - FF gives very little above current APS-C sensors, do you need that extra stop? I don't in principle, actually lately I shoot mostly with Q :D which is about par with my old K100D at low ISO, using K-5 only when conditions warrant it, and F1.4 ISO6400, can take on pretty much any viable photo opportunity for A4, and that is in 99th percentile for me, most of the rest is outside this rare range - ie, easier to shoot.

Instead of FF, I would like a faster normal lens, even if it cost a lot, it would be better than a FF camera. 2k USD F1.2 28mm? Can they do it? Even if not, I don't care too much, but I would rather drop 2K on that than on a large sensor camera and renew half my lens collection.

So, keep it APS-C, keep on making best cameras in class, expand the Q line, and competing in the middle where there is volume and actually profit - sure makes sense.

Sony as a corporation overall is more under pressure cost wise than Ricoh, and so may be Nikon... only Canon is miles above the rest financial helth wise, to hustle for #3 position in 5 years time is not impossible as long as they keep on innovating and hopefully develop capacity to actually can build enough to be #3, which I am not exactly sure is the case even if they had products that they could sell to be #3, and besides that - Samsung is probably going to be 3#, still to have it as a goal is viable and shows that they intend to stay in the game which is really the most important point for me personally, so some new great lenses like the one I imagined above may be released.
 
Unexpresivecanvas wrote:
All I can say, based on my own experience, is that people who are APS-C purists (or APS-C fundamentalists) are holding and defending the false pretense that an APS-C is similar to a FF.
I agree. Of course it's quite different.
I understand that people can be happy with an APS-C, the same way I see people really happy shooting with m4/3s and I see a lot of people really happy shooting with a smart phone and a tablet. But please, wake up and don't get confused about things. A Medium format digital camera is way better than a FF; at the same time a FF is way better than any APS-C, same as some APS-Cs are better than some m4/3, and some m4/3s are better than some pinhead sensors and some pinhead senors may be better -for now- than some smart phones and some tablets.
Now here I do not agree. "Better" is a term that implies a general superiority that doesn't take into account a lot of variables: intended application, necessary funds, visibility/bulk - to name a few. I regularly use different cameras with different sensor sizes - and they all simply offer different options. I wouldn't compare a medium format digital with my smartphone cam and declare that the former is "better". But of course I would like to have one (medium format), alongside with a FF and my APS-Cs - exactly for the different options they provide. Since my funds are sadly limited, for now APS-C offers the best compromise of image quality, flexibility (love the small size of my K5II) and affordability for me and my work.

Phil
 
DrugaRunda wrote:

What I don't get is why is there anyone still with Pentax who wants a FF???

It's 2013 and Canon 5D came out in 2005, 8 years was not enough for you to switch?

To me it makes total sense, FF is a losing game in terms of $, it can support one perhaps two players and the field is totally full. It needs AF that Pentax cannot deliver, nor WW service support and other than a FF K1000 there is nothing Pentax could offer, plus due to sensor cost that K1000 could not be exactly cheap either. Also - FF gives very little above current APS-C sensors, do you need that extra stop? I don't in principle, actually lately I shoot mostly with Q :D which is about par with my old K100D at low ISO, using K-5 only when conditions warrant it, and F1.4 ISO6400, can take on pretty much any viable photo opportunity for A4, and that is in 99th percentile for me, most of the rest is outside this rare range - ie, easier to shoot.

Instead of FF, I would like a faster normal lens, even if it cost a lot, it would be better than a FF camera. 2k USD F1.2 28mm? Can they do it? Even if not, I don't care too much, but I would rather drop 2K on that than on a large sensor camera and renew half my lens collection.

So, keep it APS-C, keep on making best cameras in class, expand the Q line, and competing in the middle where there is volume and actually profit - sure makes sense.

Sony as a corporation overall is more under pressure cost wise than Ricoh, and so may be Nikon... only Canon is miles above the rest financial helth wise, to hustle for #3 position in 5 years time is not impossible as long as they keep on innovating and hopefully develop capacity to actually can build enough to be #3, which I am not exactly sure is the case even if they had products that they could sell to be #3, and besides that - Samsung is probably going to be 3#, still to have it as a goal is viable and shows that they intend to stay in the game which is really the most important point for me personally, so some new great lenses like the one I imagined above may be released.
 
I totally agree so a 36mp Pentax FF is what i have to wait for, therefore lets keep the APS-Cs until that happens
 
Confused of Malvern wrote:

At least with Ned Blundell you got the sense that he cared about the photography.
The main qualification needed for the head of Pentax Ricoh USA is marketing, not photography. Ned was a great guy and loved photography, but the state of Pentax USA was deplorable. No product in the stores, no advertising, passive sales strategy, relying on purchasers to seek out the product. James Malcolm is an expert in marketing management, which is why he is where he is.



"Also effective October 1st, Mr. Akahane announced the appointment of James Malcolm as Executive Vice President of PENTAX RICOH IMAGING AMERICAS. Mr. Malcolm will report directly to Mr. Akahane and he will be responsible for the leadership and operations of the U.S. subsidiary. Most recently Mr. Malcolm has been working with Ricoh Company, Ltd. in Japan on the post-acquisition integration of PENTAX on a global basis. His insight and experience have set the direction and provided the vision needed to initiate management changes, including compliance with merger strategies."

http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/press/289


Executive Vice President, Pentax Ricoh Imaging Americas Corporation

"Completing the successful post acquisition integration of Pentax into Ricoh Company, Ltd. Jim was asked to provide his executive leadership and continue the transformation of the U.S. subsidiary. His direction will provide future vision, strategy, tactics and executional excellence. Jim's responsibilities encompass all company metrics including, revenue growth, product, marketing, operations, finance, development of personnel and NIBT contribution."



Director, Corporate Marketing Sony Electronics, Inc.

Jim had full responsibility and accountability for directing the development and implementation of marketing and business strategies across a broad spectrum of product categories.

Throughout his tenure Jim sought the opportunity to work on a wide variety of diverse sub-brands including Mavica, Cyber-shot, Walkman, VAIO, Xplod, Nav-u, Reader and others.


http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmalcolm

Pentax USA needs a marketer, not a photographer.
 
Agree Jeff that an APSC K3 is needed with 24 MP and as many features as the D7100 for Pentax to stay relevant.

Dale
 
Dale108 wrote:

http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/features/an-interview-with-pentax-evp-jim-malcolm

A good interview. Surprised he is somewhat dismissive of FF demands of Pentax. Does this suggest no new FF cams in the pipeline? Hard to know.
Read the interview with Pentax Ricoh Japan executives, posted at Pentax Forums. There is a FF in the pipeline, they say so quite clearly. They know more about, and have more involvement with new product than James Malcolm, whose job is to sell Pentax gear in America.

FF is not Pentax Ricoh's main priority right now, nor should it be. The base K-m,x,r model is the biggest hole in the lineup, and will bring in tens of times more users than are jumping ship for FF. APS-C has moved on from 16mp, and Pentax needs to respond, because APS-C is the core business for DSLR's. Let's keep some perspective here, FF is only a minor fraction of DSLR sales, and that goes for all DSLR makers.

The Pentax acquisition was a huge disruption and we're told it's taking longer than anticipated to gel. New product design takes 18mo to 2 years. We are just now at 18 months. Jumping into FF would have been a stupid move, and that's why it hasn't happened. We need a couple of Pentax DSLR's, and a MILC, whether it's called Pentax or Ricoh. Those are the real priorities.
 
audiobomber wrote:
Dale108 wrote:

http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/features/an-interview-with-pentax-evp-jim-malcolm

A good interview. Surprised he is somewhat dismissive of FF demands of Pentax. Does this suggest no new FF cams in the pipeline? Hard to know.
Read the interview with Pentax Ricoh Japan executives, posted at Pentax Forums. There is a FF in the pipeline, they say so quite clearly. They know more about, and have more involvement with new product than James Malcolm, whose job is to sell Pentax gear in America.
Indeed, but it will take a while; back then they still had to decide on a marketable concept. Quite likely

So why would Jim Malcolm even talk about it?
FF is not Pentax Ricoh's main priority right now, nor should it be. The base K-m,x,r model is the biggest hole in the lineup, and will bring in tens of times more users than are jumping ship for FF. APS-C has moved on from 16mp, and Pentax needs to respond, because APS-C is the core business for DSLR's. Let's keep some perspective here, FF is only a minor fraction of DSLR sales, and that goes for all DSLR makers.
Agree, and even more: if they manage to grow the market share before the FF is ready, it will make their job easier. OTOH, if they ignore the APS-C and their market share stays as it is, or even lowers...

But, I'm sure they aren't ignoring the APS-C :)
The Pentax acquisition was a huge disruption and we're told it's taking longer than anticipated to gel. New product design takes 18mo to 2 years. We are just now at 18 months. Jumping into FF would have been a stupid move, and that's why it hasn't happened. We need a couple of Pentax DSLR's, and a MILC, whether it's called Pentax or Ricoh. Those are the real priorities.
I know many of us has their patience greatly tested by Hoya-Pentax, but indeed, we should not forget how they had to reorganize under a new, better (IMHO) owner. The first results will start appearing this year, and I bet they'll be worth the wait.

FF, however... next year?
 
audiobomber wrote:

FF is not Pentax Ricoh's main priority right now, nor should it be. The base K-m,x,r model is the biggest hole in the lineup, and will bring in tens of times more users than are jumping ship for FF. APS-C has moved on from 16mp, and Pentax needs to respond, because APS-C is the core business for DSLR's. Let's keep some perspective here, FF is only a minor fraction of DSLR sales, and that goes for all DSLR makers.
I agree. Pentax must do what makes sense for a business in the 21st century. These are different from our concerns (Unless we work for them of course). If one needs FF in the meantime there are several excellent options these days. It actually isn't that costly to shoot two systems. How many lenses fit on a camera at one time anyway? :-)

The Pentax acquisition was a huge disruption and we're told it's taking longer than anticipated to gel. New product design takes 18mo to 2 years. We are just now at 18 months. Jumping into FF would have been a stupid move, and that's why it hasn't happened. We need a couple of Pentax DSLR's, and a MILC, whether it's called Pentax or Ricoh. Those are the real priorities.
 

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