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Hi,

As of today I am the proud owner of a brand new white coolpix p330 :-)

Two things worry me a bit though:

1) It seems this camera doesn't have an orientation sensor? Really?

2) On a few occasions today I turned the camera off and when I wanted to turn it back on shortly after, I appeared dead? Only after removing the battery and putting it back it, it came back alive? Anybody else experienced this before?

Apart from there two niggles, I must say that the image quality is quite impressive!

Cheers,

Tim
 
tthienpont said:
tthienpont wrote:

Hi,

As of today I am the proud owner of a brand new white coolpix p330 :-)
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Happy you!
tthienpont said:
Two things worry me a bit though:

1) It seems this camera doesn't have an orientation sensor? Really?
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What do you need that for? It's not a smartphone! :-D Or do you mean this:

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RTFM
RTFM
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2) On a few occasions today I turned the camera off and when I wanted to turn it back on shortly after, I appeared dead? Only after removing the battery and putting it back it, it came back alive? Anybody else experienced this before?
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In one of the P330 threads I recall someone having a similar problem, but if it was the same...?
 
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Condescend much?

Sorry, but RTFM doesn't cut it - neither you nor the manual said anything about the orientation sensor. Instructions on manually rotating individual images is decidedly not the same thing.

Frankly, I'm surprised that the P330 still doesn't have an orientation sensor - the P300 and P310 didn't. My RX100 has one, the few DSLRs I've used have had one, and even my Canon SD1000 from 2007 has one. It's not an expensive feature only found in ultra high end cameras.
 
Might be a coincidence. Maybe you didn't press the power button hard enough. It has to be firmly pressed in order to turn on the camera. Very firmly.
 
jezz.. another remind of why i don't visit these forums much....

anyhow, OP - I feel your pain. My GF3 also skips the sensor, so I need to manually rotate when processing my pics - just an extra step one could do without.

I was thinking about the P330 - but if it really doesn't log orientation in the file I will be very :(
 
In my understanding the OP might mean perhaps auto rotate in cam preview functionality here (?), since even a Coolpix can usually store the captured image orientation inside the EXIF data which imaging software can make use of in order to show an image automatically in the right orientation on a monitor.
 
vkyr2 said:
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In my understanding the OP might mean perhaps auto rotate in cam preview functionality here (?), since even a Coolpix can usually store the captured image orientation inside the EXIF data which imaging software can make use of in order to show an image automatically in the right orientation on a monitor.
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areichow said:
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We'll have to wait for the OP to elaborate. But at least on my P300, the lack of orientation sensor means both that the captured image doesn't auto-rotate when looking at the image on the camera *and* that there isn't any orientation meta data stored in the EXIF. If I take a photo with the camera on its side (portrait orientation), the image is rotated when I view it in Lightroom, the Picasa preview tool, etc.

First step of my workflow is to go through with the Picasa preview tool and rotate it as needed with Ctrl-R and Ctrl-Shift-R, which adds to the EXIF info what orientation to use.

It doesn't bother me a lot, but it was a weird oversight on the P300. I'm honestly surprised they didn't implement it for the P330. *shrug*
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Hmm, I bought last year a P310 for my mother and leaved that to her abroad, but honestly can't remember how that behaved here in contrast with software based image previewers etc.

However, a test to find out if it is a general P3xx problem with no EXIF info data related to the orientation might be, if Nikon's own ViewNX2 software etc. behaves the same here. Since if Nikon's software would handle this correct, meaning here that if it possibly shows portrait orientation always correct up, it might be, that Nikon uses some more unusual custom EXIF data info entry for storing that orientation information. - On the other hand if even Nikon's own software doesn't handle the orientation preview correct, there might be some long time bug related to this inside the P3xx cam line firmware!
 
Hi,

Back to the OP it is :-)

In the meantime I did some further tests and I can confirm that this cam indeed does not have an orientation sensor. There seems to be some algorithm in face detection for portrait shots, but that only works for, you guessed it, portraits. Like the manual stated indeed.

And about turning on/off, I'm pretty sure that I pushed the button very firmly.

Anyway, the lack of orientation sensor is a dealbreaker for me, as much as I wanted to like this cam and being a "nikonist" (dslr owner). I'm returning this for a Canon S110 as my pocket cam.

Thanks for all your kind answers!

Cheers,

Tim
 
tthienpont said:
tthienpont wrote:

Anyway, the lack of orientation sensor is a dealbreaker for me, as much as I wanted to like this cam and being a "nikonist" (dslr owner). I'm returning this for a Canon S110 as my pocket cam.
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I agree that's it's a strange cost cutting measure to not have an orientation sensor in the P330, but I can't imagine that being a deal breaker as rotating the few vertical images in your editor is a one click affair.

As far as the S110 vs P330, I've been researching these two camera for the past week, and the P330 seems to have noticeably better IQ than the S110 so it may be worth it to some to put up with some minor niggles. The slightly softer images, the only 460 K LCD, and no GPS of the S110 are much bigger deal breakers for me than an orientation sensor. I can rotate the few verticals I take manually, but I'm a traveller and I cannot tag the S110 or make the LCD have better resolution.

Anyway, good luck and thanks for the info.

Regard, Markus
 
That graphic is what Nikon refers to as a 'Virtual Horizon'. Perhaps that is what is meant by 'orientation sensor'?
 
marike6 said:
marike6 wrote:
marike6 said:
tthienpont wrote:

Anyway, the lack of orientation sensor is a dealbreaker for me, as much as I wanted to like this cam and being a "nikonist" (dslr owner). I'm returning this for a Canon S110 as my pocket cam.
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I agree that's it's a strange cost cutting measure to not have an orientation sensor in the P330, but I can't imagine that being a deal breaker as rotating the few vertical images in your editor is a one click affair.

As far as the S110 vs P330, I've been researching these two camera for the past week, and the P330 seems to have noticeably better IQ than the S110 so it may be worth it to some to put up with some minor niggles. The slightly softer images, the only 460 K LCD, and no GPS of the S110 are much bigger deal breakers for me than an orientation sensor. I can rotate the few verticals I take manually, but I'm a traveller and I cannot tag the S110 or make the LCD have better resolution.

Anyway, good luck and thanks for the info.

Regard, Markus
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Different strokes. I don't have an "orientation sensor" in my P7100 either, but that's last on my list of "dealbreakers". One click in post and they turn rightside up. Yes, strange it's not included but "dealbreaker"? GTFO!
 
toomanycanons said:
toomanycanons wrote:
toomanycanons said:
marike6 wrote:
toomanycanons said:
tthienpont wrote:

Anyway, the lack of orientation sensor is a dealbreaker for me, as much as I wanted to like this cam and being a "nikonist" (dslr owner). I'm returning this for a Canon S110 as my pocket cam.
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I agree that's it's a strange cost cutting measure to not have an orientation sensor in the P330, but I can't imagine that being a deal breaker as rotating the few vertical images in your editor is a one click affair.

As far as the S110 vs P330, I've been researching these two camera for the past week, and the P330 seems to have noticeably better IQ than the S110 so it may be worth it to some to put up with some minor niggles. The slightly softer images, the only 460 K LCD, and no GPS of the S110 are much bigger deal breakers for me than an orientation sensor. I can rotate the few verticals I take manually, but I'm a traveller and I cannot tag the S110 or make the LCD have better resolution.

Anyway, good luck and thanks for the info.

Regard, Markus
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Different strokes. I don't have an "orientation sensor" in my P7100 either, but that's last on my list of "dealbreakers". One click in post and they turn rightside up. Yes, strange it's not included but "dealbreaker"? GTFO!
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It occurred to me, that with my other cameras, I actually don't like when the camera auto-rotates a vertical image, and it's not good for image review as the rotated images then becomes tiny on the LCD. I'd much rather have vertical images turned on their sides as they then fill the LCD (just like horizontal images do), making it easier to judge sharpness.

My DSLR always auto-rotates images and I hate it. I have to remember to disable Auto-Rotate for image review.

Cheers, Markus
 
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